Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

If Trump were smart he'd just keep saying that and not bother pushing for any legislation at all.

You know what else I don't get? Of all the dirty people tied to Trump, doesn't Pence seem ... the least dirty? Why would he be the first to lawyer up?

they need to slam this through in order to make tax reform "work", i think

does anyone like AHCA other than (some...most?) insurance companies?

People who are very very rich and wish to pay lower taxes like it. That's it. I don't think insurance companies particularly like it.

one of the narratives among young brainwashed Pubs is "this bill gives people 'choice' without realizing that the "choice" it provides is utterly useless (you can buy insurance in other states now! whose network is only in that state! meaning all out of network costs or you're paying up front for everything and everything over REasonable and Customary charges/!!!!)

it's like saying "you have the choice to buy a truck with three wheels when previously you weren't allowed to"

"as a blanket thing i should say that my attitude has become a fair bit more morbsian post-election than it was beforehand.
i figured that hillary would be a mediocre-decent dem president; now i'm near convinced that the hold the clinton wing has on liberalism in this country is completely malignant. (granted this is an impression gleaned from social media where conflict and stupidity are maximized)"

It's fair to say that the election has broken lots of brains and that website doesn't help. Look at the replies anytime Bernie tweets that he thinks Russiagate is a legitimate issue, it's a litany of conspiratorial "sir you have betrayed your legacy!" anger from the segment of his supporters on the "anti-anti Trumpism" side.

Or "you used to have to go to an adequate public school for free but now you have the choice to either go to a dangerously underfunded public school for free or a fundamentalist indoctrination academy at half price -- two choices, better than one choice!"

yeah insurance companies don't like it either. it exists solely because rich fucks don't want to pay for ACA subsidies.

insurance companies did pretty well from the ACA

They want to give people the blanket freedom to not have health care by taking away health care.

They are granting freedom from the bonds of life, we will soon all be free to die in the streets

Only if you want! (Unless you have no choice.)

McConnell's got multiple reasons for pushing this - notch a legislative "win"/fulfill longstanding GOP promise, facilitate the tax cut that they *really* want, and kill the poor.

P simple.

insurance companies did pretty well from the ACA

Not so much. 2016 was considered a good year for the individual market cause the best companies only had losses in the millions instead of hundreds of millions.

Well the alternative to the ACA is to fucking get rid of insurance companies so I think they like most of it..

Everything going great over there

NEW: the White House is now referring questions about a potential oval office recording device to outside counsel https://t.co/Dayd9OD6ku

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) June 15, 2017

Who says you need the tyranny of certification. No insurance? Go to any unlicensed self-professed street doctor. Choice! Competition!

there are no fucking tapes

there are laserdiscs however

jesus fucking christ, betsy de vos is the absolute worst

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/dept-of-education-freezing-rules-designed-to-protect-students/533717825

trump's cabinet is like the golden state warriors of suck

if there were tapes that actually contradicted even a smidgen of what comey said, they'd have been released. also, there are no tapes

Motherfuck I dont understand how you lot deal with such a Lovecraftian mess of a healthcare system. I feel embarrased at how simple things are where I am. You can go to any GP you like, and take your prescription to any pharmacist you like. Theres a cap on most medicines so no one pays more than about $40 for a medicine (theres some exceptions of course). If you're prepared to wait, scan, tests and surgerys are free.

(sorry when I typed that out there wasnt so many new posts)

I just assumed reporters keep asking about tapes because they are trolling him. Of course there are no tapes. I mean, they're hustling to fake them as fast as possible, yeah, but they've been distracted, by making America great again and stuff.

omg take tapes is such a great idea, would love Trump "re-enacting" for a fake recording

FAKE TAPES

Wait, you think they'd make fake tapes!? geezus.

I kind of want that to happen now lol

Trump doing everyone's voices

https://youtu.be/Ov01CWw_Ykk

oh look, SC is looking into Jared, too.

Well the alternative to the ACA is to fucking get rid of insurance companies so I think they like most of it..

There are many alternatives, eg the preACA system that was in place for decades and which allowed ins cos to make billions each year. They did get a lil giddy at the prospect of millions more people basically being legally obligated to become their customers but that hasn't gone as they expected.

Isn't the AHCA essentially the "old system"? (No mandate, pre-existing conditions not guaranteed, no federal subsidies, etc.)

Xp to Josh-- I realize you mean "special counsel" but for a hot second I thought the Supreme Court was gonna decide whether Jared Kushner is constitutional.

I predict a split court, with Kennedy voting in the majority to say that Kushner is constitutional if you apply a strict "prep test"

Aside: I'm retrospectively glad I responded to the election by subscribing to WaPo rather than the NYT (having little preference beforehand).

same

altho I was def p pissed at the NYT during the election

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/06/the-politics-of-tragedies

I am cautiously optimistic about the Post's coverage of politics these days. I have a sub to it, WSJ, and The Week. My only exposure to nytimes is on the agonies/quiddities thread, and that's more than ample.

xxp same here

argh that was to Sanpaku

Anyway, it's all fun and games

KellyAnne Conway now chatting with Pelosi and Schumer on the field at the congressional baseball game #bipartisanship pic.twitter.com/p5QrFdj4e9

— Alex Moe (@AlexNBCNews) June 15, 2017

I have had a Washington Post subscription since approximately 1976. I did recently have to cut back the print edition to weekend-only, because they were piling up unread a bit too much. The decision still made me kinda sad, because if print-era creatures like me totally give up on print, then it is well and truly dead.

Some/most of us are stuck with whatever insurer our employer gives us, of course, which in my case has meant greater expense year by year, and/or fewer benefits.

re baseball yeah well Al Franken is good buddies w/ Sessions, whaddya expect

it's almost like there's other, perhaps bigger, problems with US healthcare than ins cos

Great piece on self destructive Trump paranoia:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/15/trump-russia-investigation-obsession-239614

Inbox: Bizarre statement from DAG Rosenstein pic.twitter.com/EVAUJpJWMP

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) June 16, 2017

rosenstein was on the hawaiian birth certificate hunt junket iirc

Striking how many respectable journalists are saying they have never seen anything like that statement before. Scans like it was written under pressure, but there are also renewed rumors of something big about to drop.