Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

xpost yeah I mean that of the 36%, the support is more "somewhat approve" vs overwhelming support. becoming more tenuous

wonder how much of the 36% is still 'sure he's a total piece of shit fraud but at least he's not a chick' deplorable?

I feel like the red hatters are at most like 10% of the country. I think his approval can go a lot lower. I'd bet on it falling below 30% at some point.

I feel like the red hatters are at most like 10% of the country.

the good news is that the present moment is arguably the first time we'll ever be able to find out. the trump presidency is a natural experiment to determine exactly how many people are fucking assholes and always will be no matter what happens around them. i'm guessing the number is around 25%.

i've seen sub-30% approval + congressional majority mentioned as prereqs for impeachment, which seems arbitrary and inconsistent with senate behaviour for the past few months, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel like the red hatters are at most like 10% of the country.

the good news is that the present moment is arguably the first time we'll ever be able to find out. the trump presidency is a natural experiment to determine exactly how many people are fucking assholes and always will be no matter what happens around them. i'm guessing the number is around 25%.

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:04 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like its closer to 20-25% too but its possible it fluctuates significantly if your base is 'all americans' or 'registered voters'.

a helluva lot of people in this country are only getting their "information" from sources that reiterate over and over again that their president is the subject of an unprecedented partisan witch hunt.

unpresidented i think you mean

The GOP's passionate hatred for democracy & indifference to whether we live or die is impressive https://t.co/8IFfhFqcY5 pic.twitter.com/OrJof6aKV8

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) June 20, 2017

i'm guessing the number is around 25%.

Nixon resigned with 24% approval. I think Trump won't voluntarily go before 20%.

i remember when everyone's hot take was that trump actually didn't want to be president and would exit at the first possible moment (either during the campaign or after)

now, shockingly, it seems that he DOES want to be in a position where he is the center of the world's attention every single day

All true, but he still didn't want to be president.

Not that it matters.

yeah, when you're given witchhunt, make witchhuntade.

America "stumbles into war" in Syria. Completely on accident. https://t.co/SWslDkYA9W pic.twitter.com/uXM99wxJ5q

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 20, 2017

The best part of that guy's tweets is his profile photo, which perfectly accompanies every brilliant thing he says

I dig Adam Johnson's stuff

all do cept the Man

it seems that he DOES want to be in a position

I still think he looks at his presidential run as marketing for the Trump brand that got out of hand. Having inadvertently won (who knew there were so many racists left, or that Republican rank and file favored party over country), he's trapped. An exit in disgrace is a disgrace his legacy. He doesn't want to be remembered as the 2nd president who resigned under constitutional duress, or the 3rd president to be impeached.

At this point, I imagine he's hoping (and perhaps planning) for some medical impairment to allow him to step down, while still being able to claim victory over those Manhattanites who wouldn't let him play their reindeer games.

poor RuDon

xp I can see his health taking him out.. I mean just look at the guy..

Coordination!

.@TedCruz to Mark Levin, on Senate Obamacare repeal: "As we’re sitting here tonight, I don’t know what’s in the bill."

— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) June 20, 2017

Having inadvertently won

South Park lied to us for $$$

I can't see Trump resigning no matter how low his numbers go. Why the fuck would he care? He doesn't care about anything.

Except winning/being right, I guess? Which means admitting defeat he will NEVER do without kicking and screaming.

He will only leave when every single American is utterly sick to death of all the constant winning, and is begging and crying to lose, just this once

http://i.imgur.com/l2kfg7f.png

yeah...but also fuck you maggie haberman?

i get her point but i'm sunk in whine drunk

Welp, guess it's time to stop resisting. Brb I'm buying a red hat and building a shrine to my new daddy.

Thanks for the ace commentary NYT

haberman is a good reporter

i knooooow :-/

i'm just mad because my team lost

She's a great reporter but she's a bad pundit

Smirky shit like that is what keeps Republicans taking her phone calls, which is what makes her a valuable reporter.

Robert Costa doesn't smirk.

the Democratic Party's candidates are the core of the Resistance. How could the NYT conceive of anything else?

I mean, Hillary said she joined it! Case closed!

most pundits are bad

They got groovy wiggly tails

Why the fuck would he care? He doesn't care about anything.

dude, do you not pay attention to anything that he says/tweets? he is PERENNIALLY butthurt, about the crowds at his inauguration being "underestimated", at not winning the popular vote, at not getting to ban muslims, etc etc etc. He cares about his ego and his reputation, abundantly, to his detriment - if anything will send him to jail, it's his inability to let a slight go without tweeting something self-incriminating in response.

I meant he doesn't care about anything enough to quit. This is a guy who found the one poll that put him at a mere 50% approval and boasted about it. He's not going anywhere of his own volition, even (I suspect) if he is impeached or jailed (which he won't be).

No mention of his state visit in the Queen's Speech. Please let him take a pop at her via twitter dot com

I heard yesterday that the idea that you couldn't prosecute an incumbent President was more of a norm than a law. & it was based on the idea that it would cause major disruption if it was seen that the office of president could be so compromised. Further to that the idea that the President was known to be under investigation had already caused that lack of faith in the role so there was now no reason not to go ahead with a prosecution.
That quite apart from the lack of belief in the role that 45 is causing all by himself.
So fingers crossed that good prevails and utter corruption doesn't.
But not holding my breath, like.

If this guy in Georgia couldn't flip that seat, there is no way anything is happening to Trump.

Oh, look, I see that the House just blocked that tougher Russian sanctions bill.

Hm hm hm

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock

But that doesn't address national security and other problems that might arise for the president if Russia is involved in Trump, either through potentially compromising U.S. business relationships or through funds that flowed into his wallet years ago. In that context, a troubling history of Trump's dealings with Russians exists outside of Russia: in a dormant real-estate development firm, the Bayrock Group, which once operated just two floors beneath the president's own office in Trump Tower.

Bayrock partnered with the future president and his two eldest children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka, on a series of real-estate deals between 2002 and about 2011, the most prominent being the troubled Trump Soho hotel and condominium in Manhattan.

During the years that Bayrock and Trump did deals together, the company was also a bridge between murky European funding and a number of projects in the U.S. to which the president once leant his name in exchange for handsome fees. Icelandic banks that dealt with Bayrock, for example, were easy marks for money launderers and foreign influence, according to interviews with government investigators, legislators, and others in Reykjavik, Brussels, Paris and London. Trump testified under oath in a 2007 deposition that Bayrock brought Russian investors to his Trump Tower office to discuss deals in Moscow, and said he was pondering investing there.

"It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia," Trump said in that deposition. "Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment."

One of Bayrock's principals was a career criminal named Felix Sater who had ties to Russian and American organized crime groups. Before linking up with the company and with Trump, he had worked as a mob informant for the U.S. government, fled to Moscow to avoid criminal charges while boasting of his KGB and Kremlin contacts there, and had gone to prison for slashing apart another man’s face with a broken cocktail glass.

In a series of interviews and a lawsuit, a former Bayrock insider, Jody Kriss, claims that he eventually departed from the firm because he became convinced that Bayrock was actually a front for money laundering.

this this THIS is the story. Charles Pierce wrote about Sater a few months ago. Few other journalists have picked up on it.

noted red-ink enthusiast josh marshall was kicking it around for a while too

Yeah it seems to be starting to crest a bit more, especially if Mueller and team are locking onto it. Schindler had also written about it (in the Observer IIRC, amusingly enough).

Dutch journalists made a documentary about Trump's ties with Russia (though Bayrock, KazBay, etc), it aired a month ago or so, the English version is on youtube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UR2YQQ9J8U
(They tracked down Sater at his house (at about 42:00))

(that's an informally merged version of the two episodes. the original episodes are here: 1) ZEMBLA - The dubious friends of Donald Trump: the Russians and 2) ZEMBLA - The dubious friends of Donald trump: King of Diamonds)

zembla, the zairean man-boy love association