Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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i knooooow :-/

i'm just mad because my team lost

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

She's a great reporter but she's a bad pundit

black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

Smirky shit like that is what keeps Republicans taking her phone calls, which is what makes her a valuable reporter.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:37 (six years ago) link

Robert Costa doesn't smirk.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link

the Democratic Party's candidates are the core of the Resistance. How could the NYT conceive of anything else?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link

I mean, Hillary said she joined it! Case closed!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:50 (six years ago) link

most pundits are bad

maura, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link

They got groovy wiggly tails

layda be cry (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

Why the fuck would he care? He doesn't care about anything.

dude, do you not pay attention to anything that he says/tweets? he is PERENNIALLY butthurt, about the crowds at his inauguration being "underestimated", at not winning the popular vote, at not getting to ban muslims, etc etc etc. He cares about his ego and his reputation, abundantly, to his detriment - if anything will send him to jail, it's his inability to let a slight go without tweeting something self-incriminating in response.

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 07:16 (six years ago) link

I meant he doesn't care about anything enough to quit. This is a guy who found the one poll that put him at a mere 50% approval and boasted about it. He's not going anywhere of his own volition, even (I suspect) if he is impeached or jailed (which he won't be).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:33 (six years ago) link

No mention of his state visit in the Queen's Speech. Please let him take a pop at her via twitter dot com

stet, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link

I heard yesterday that the idea that you couldn't prosecute an incumbent President was more of a norm than a law. & it was based on the idea that it would cause major disruption if it was seen that the office of president could be so compromised. Further to that the idea that the President was known to be under investigation had already caused that lack of faith in the role so there was now no reason not to go ahead with a prosecution.
That quite apart from the lack of belief in the role that 45 is causing all by himself.
So fingers crossed that good prevails and utter corruption doesn't.
But not holding my breath, like.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link

If this guy in Georgia couldn't flip that seat, there is no way anything is happening to Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link

Oh, look, I see that the House just blocked that tougher Russian sanctions bill.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

Hm hm hm

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock

But that doesn't address national security and other problems that might arise for the president if Russia is involved in Trump, either through potentially compromising U.S. business relationships or through funds that flowed into his wallet years ago. In that context, a troubling history of Trump's dealings with Russians exists outside of Russia: in a dormant real-estate development firm, the Bayrock Group, which once operated just two floors beneath the president's own office in Trump Tower.

Bayrock partnered with the future president and his two eldest children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka, on a series of real-estate deals between 2002 and about 2011, the most prominent being the troubled Trump Soho hotel and condominium in Manhattan.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

During the years that Bayrock and Trump did deals together, the company was also a bridge between murky European funding and a number of projects in the U.S. to which the president once leant his name in exchange for handsome fees. Icelandic banks that dealt with Bayrock, for example, were easy marks for money launderers and foreign influence, according to interviews with government investigators, legislators, and others in Reykjavik, Brussels, Paris and London. Trump testified under oath in a 2007 deposition that Bayrock brought Russian investors to his Trump Tower office to discuss deals in Moscow, and said he was pondering investing there.

"It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia," Trump said in that deposition. "Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment."

One of Bayrock's principals was a career criminal named Felix Sater who had ties to Russian and American organized crime groups. Before linking up with the company and with Trump, he had worked as a mob informant for the U.S. government, fled to Moscow to avoid criminal charges while boasting of his KGB and Kremlin contacts there, and had gone to prison for slashing apart another manโ€™s face with a broken cocktail glass.

In a series of interviews and a lawsuit, a former Bayrock insider, Jody Kriss, claims that he eventually departed from the firm because he became convinced that Bayrock was actually a front for money laundering.

this this THIS is the story. Charles Pierce wrote about Sater a few months ago. Few other journalists have picked up on it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

noted red-ink enthusiast josh marshall was kicking it around for a while too

total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

Yeah it seems to be starting to crest a bit more, especially if Mueller and team are locking onto it. Schindler had also written about it (in the Observer IIRC, amusingly enough).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link

Dutch journalists made a documentary about Trump's ties with Russia (though Bayrock, KazBay, etc), it aired a month ago or so, the English version is on youtube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UR2YQQ9J8U
(They tracked down Sater at his house (at about 42:00))

willem, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

(that's an informally merged version of the two episodes. the original episodes are here: 1) ZEMBLA - The dubious friends of Donald Trump: the Russians and 2) ZEMBLA - The dubious friends of Donald trump: King of Diamonds)

willem, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link

zembla, the zairean man-boy love association

total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

didn't someone link the whowhatwhy pieces? lotta sater stuff there. the thesis is that sater has been so useful to the fbi's investigation of the russian mob that they've been hesitant to "use him up" on the trump investigation. i'm not sure it quite holds water but there are certainly a lot of gory details.

https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/03/27/fbi-cant-tell-trump-russia/
https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/04/05/felix-sater-problematical-friend-trump-forgot/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

"I heard yesterday that the idea that you couldn't prosecute an incumbent President was more of a norm than a law. & it was based on the idea that it would cause major disruption if it was seen that the office of president could be so compromised. Further to that the idea that the President was known to be under investigation had already caused that lack of faith in the role so there was now no reason not to go ahead with a prosecution.
That quite apart from the lack of belief in the role that 45 is causing all by himself.
So fingers crossed that good prevails and utter corruption doesn't.
But not holding my breath, like"

I was under the impression you can prosecute but only the Senate can do the prosecutin'

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

I think the alternative viewpoint was that it wasn't possible for an incumbent President to actually be prosecuted. So he would have to cease to be a President before he could be prosecuted. e.g. Nixon only becoming prosecutable once he resigned but then being almost instantly pardoned by Ford.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

is this from maddow?

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

The irony of Trump stamping his name on everything is that everything connects to Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Sources reported that @SenateMajLdr's cheeks distended to many times their original size. https://t.co/1Z625GhZ9g pic.twitter.com/W3tsSlJOsj

— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 20, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

an op-ed today in the NYT by lowell weicker! that's a blast from my connecticut past. forgot that he was on the watergate commission AND i forgot that he was still alive.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

and boy did Nixon and Reagan hate him

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

i've seen 6, none w/in shouting distance of great

but looks good next to Gaspar Noe

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

sorry

well sure Weicker was one of the last lib/mod Republicans

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

i like lowell. i like that he started his own party to run for governor. he was more of a republicrat. he had nice things to say about democrats. sheesh, yeah, another era...

loved ella though. god love you, ella! we won't forget you.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

i like that he was #fucktrump early on too.

http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Weicker-Donald-Trump-a-bigoted-con-artst-6449424.php

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

In the midst of it all, surely Alfred can appreciate that there is love

Joe Scarborough wrote a love song for Mika ๐Ÿ’• https://t.co/vkixoD9yzJ pic.twitter.com/LxJqzSX1b3

— Connor Ryan (@connortryan) June 21, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

He and Sekulow can go out on tour together. It'll be the Hunter Thompson/G. Gordon Liddy lecture tour of its time.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

Ned, I'm eating lunch.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

It'll be the Hunter Thompson/G. Gordon Liddy lecture tour of its time.

I saw Liddy w/ Tim Leary -- was this a different one?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

Was deeply under the impression Thompson/Liddy had swung through SoCal together in the late eighties -- possibly conflating two separate appearances, though.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

ok, i saw Gordo/Tim in '80-81

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

Morbs kept the ticket stub in a shoebox under his bed.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

Later, he kept Liddy there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

explains that scratching noise

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

guys, the georgia-6 result was bad. no need to sugarcoat it. it's just one data point though, and the overall trend when you look at the other special elections seems good

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

whoops meant for the other thread

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

i have some old ticket stubs, haven't seen that one

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

Liddy would have been glad to appear on a stage attacking Tim Leary, because Tim wouldn't have fought back. Hunter Thompson was as much of an attack dog as Liddy was, and he would have torn Liddy a new asshole every night. Liddy would have avoided HST like the plague.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

obv Liddy was the more truculent onstage, but it was clearly a showbiz arrangement.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link

I'm confused, k3vin, wasn't it what you wished for?

rogan josh hashana (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

have we talked about the Jay Sekulow Band yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zajoKA5ehMo

korla pundit (crรผt), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link


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