obv Liddy was the more truculent onstage, but it was clearly a showbiz arrangement.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
I'm confused, k3vin, wasn't it what you wished for?
― rogan josh hashana (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
have we talked about the Jay Sekulow Band yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zajoKA5ehMo
― korla pundit (crüt), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
joan crawford chi chi posted about it upthread
― 龜, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
FBI: lone wolf terrorism is the greatest threat we face./lone wolf white guy shoots congressmanFBI: pic.twitter.com/vTreEqrcIU— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 21, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
He must've been a lone different kind of animal. Still gotta watch out for those wolves, man.
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
sad lol it's not terrorism if it's only one guy now? ok
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
No no, it's just that they were finally able to conclusively determine that he was a white American. Ergo nothing to worry about re: terrorist threat.
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
look white americans are not a dangerous group hell bent on spreading their ideology, regardless of the cost of human life
― nomar, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
just a guy from Illinois w/ domestic assault history
reg'lar
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
guess what everybody
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/21/what-is-in-gop-senate-obamacare-repeal-plan-239812
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
Here’s what is known so far about the bill’s contents:
— It would eliminate Obamacare’s subsidy program and replace it with a different structure to help low-income people afford insurance. But Republicans are still trying to craft an alternative that would prohibit coverage of abortion without violating the strict reconciliation rules enabling them to pass the bill without a Democratic filibuster. Republican sources tell POLITICO they're confident they can get the subsidy language through with the abortion prohibitions.
— Republicans plan to offer states a waiver to opt out of major parts of Obamacare and create their own health care rules. The bill would alter a waiver that was part of Obamacare — known as 1332 waivers — and make them easier to obtain.
— The bill is also expected to dramatically reshape Medicaid. Instead of an open-ended entitlement, states would get a set amount of money per person. In a win for conservatives, the Senate is expected to cut the program as aggressively as the House did until 2025 or 2026 and then make payments that grow in line with inflation. States are expected to have significant new flexibility for how they run their Medicaid programs. Republicans are likely to include a carve-out for certain children with complex medical needs, according to several sources.
— The bill is expected to repeal Obamacare’s taxes, but how soon that is done is fluid because it would likely depend on how much tax revenue is needed to cover other costs associated with the GOP plan.
— Cost-sharing subsidies to help pay insurers for low-income individuals' out-of-pocket expenses are expected to be continued through the annual appropriations process, requiring a 60-vote threshold.
— Lawmakers are weighing moving a House-approved fund that provided $115 billion for states to stabilize their insurance markets to the Children's Health Insurance Program. Doing so would preserve restrictions on federal funding of abortion.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
it's like they want to force you to have babies just so they can murder them a decade or two later
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
well it's a really effective way to keep the undesirables demoralized
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
first we force you to be born, then we extract labor/wealth, then you die = it's a perfect system!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
I guess you could add "Republican vote" to "labor/wealth" there
u forgot the soylent green step #pvmic
― total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
It would fucking rule if Paul Ryan got stomped by a Steel Mill Super Mario. pic.twitter.com/fAFP1ZEmAC— Chris Person (@Papapishu) June 21, 2017
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
I live in Wisconsin. I saw that ad yesterday. Wife and I had the same reaction - "wait, that's the dude running!??" wish I lived in the 1st district.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
He's actually the second Dem challenger to Paul Ryan, David Yankovich, an Ohioan, moved there specifically to run.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
"Weird" Dan Yankovich
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
50 million bucks spent in total by both sides in a replacement seat House race is perverse. By the vote count I saw, its like over $200 dollars a vote. Pure normalized lunacy.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
aint that America, you and me
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
25 million to scare the congressional GOP that replacing Obamacare with Wealthcare would have been cheap, had it worked.
Also, I suspect the anti vote hacking activists will be all over this, perhaps inciting a movement to recountable paper ballots, nationwide.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link
^ that replacing Obamacare with Wealthcare would have dire electoral consequences would have been cheap
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
There just has to be a weird ad production, print shop industry of people that are just getting filthy rich just going big election to big election prepping up all this BS for these 'votes' on both sides of the isle. For every Richard Berman you might know about, there are probably just hundreds of these people working for both sides just making cash as fast as they can churn out this media swill. It's got to be an easier ad/marketing gig than many corporate jobs.
I'd imagine in radio/tv advertising it's like watering the lawn and growing cash, there are probably execs that create 501-Bs get a bunch of people of a like political mind to thrown in more cash and then funnel the money back into their corporations as ad buys. And with the way the rules are setup on those groups, who the heck gonna ever know.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), who has been pushing the proposal, argued such a move would also make Medicaid function more efficiently. “They’ll get better care," he said. “It’s the right thing for these kids."
lol you fucking weasel
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link
portman is a coward
― marcos, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link
i tht the house bill was "DOA" etc - but this is basically the house bill??
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link
Not really, in some cases it's worse
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link
yes
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link
man Chris Hayes skewered Michael Burgess, sweat-drenched GOP House member from Texas, for not answering the simple question: if you're so fucking obsessed with the deficit, why are you giving $650 million in tax giveaways to millionaires. GOP congress dude almost keeled over.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link
What are Bernie Bros up to these days? Just retweeting the same anti-Trump stuff everyone else is?
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 22 June 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
they joined the DSA 🌹
― Clay, Thursday, 22 June 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link
as should everyone
― davey, Thursday, 22 June 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i5Qpr1l3PI
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand)
yeah, apparently the only problem the republicans have with any legislation is that it's not awful enough. they'll just keep making it worse until it literally replaces hospitals with death camps and then it'll sail right through.
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
they joined the DSA
and from what I can tell the DSA is moving further and further left as it grows which is A Good Thing imo
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
what does that mean?
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
That would mean, among other things, abandoning the notion of transforming the Democratic party
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
Someone was asking about this earlier iirc
https://t.co/iw35rT0Gr2
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
that was meee! thx, good looking out
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link
probably too much to hope this was on the front page, huh?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/comments/2017/06/21/opinion/health-care-bill-senate.html
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:33 (six years ago) link
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)
to be fair the self-pity emanating from those quarters can be overwhelming at times
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link
NYT is FAKE PEWS Raymond
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
"those quarters" = dems or leftists, rushomancy?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link
ha ha, i will let the thread fight it out!
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link
fwiw the leftists I know are all mostly just hyped as hell
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link
ok, you've had nearly half an hour, no fight has ensued. i meant "dems".
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
Core principle of the Republican Party: Life begins at conception and ends at birth. https://t.co/xdYpwqaBNE— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 22, 2017
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link