probably too much to hope this was on the front page, huh?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/comments/2017/06/21/opinion/health-care-bill-senate.html
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:33 (six years ago) link
That would mean, among other things, abandoning the notion of transforming the Democratic party
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)
to be fair the self-pity emanating from those quarters can be overwhelming at times
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link
NYT is FAKE PEWS Raymond
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
"those quarters" = dems or leftists, rushomancy?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link
ha ha, i will let the thread fight it out!
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link
fwiw the leftists I know are all mostly just hyped as hell
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link
ok, you've had nearly half an hour, no fight has ensued. i meant "dems".
― Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
Core principle of the Republican Party: Life begins at conception and ends at birth. https://t.co/xdYpwqaBNE— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 22, 2017
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link
well, looks like ICE is now going after white people
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/06/20/john-cunningham-not-safe-one-safe/OrlwvXMRMd3T13qUKWgxGN/story.html?event=event25
― 龜, Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
White people need more oppression imo.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link
Homo homini lupus
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
This is how I feel too often these days.
http://www.splicetoday.com/writing/numbness-is-a-feeling-too
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link
ugh Raymond
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
A snapshot that just poured onto the keyboard, and it's bound up in personal life shit. Hopefully a temporary state of mind.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
Anyone hearing anything about the GOP healthcare morning meeting going on right now? I was away from the net for an hour :)
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2236/2203715732_29f983424b_b.jpg
― total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
Interesting: http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/338948-supreme-court-limits-governments-power-to-revoke-citizenship
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a naturalized immigrant can’t be stripped of their citizenship for making false statements during the naturalization process that are irrelevant to an immigration official's decision to grant or deny citizenship.A unanimous court said the government must establish that an immigrant’s illegal act during the naturalization process played some role in acquiring citizenship. When the underlying illegal act is a false statement, the justices said a jury must decide whether the false statements altered the naturalization process and influenced the immigration official's decision.
A unanimous court said the government must establish that an immigrant’s illegal act during the naturalization process played some role in acquiring citizenship. When the underlying illegal act is a false statement, the justices said a jury must decide whether the false statements altered the naturalization process and influenced the immigration official's decision.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/senate-health-care-bill/index.html
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
Thanks Latham!! And here's the link to the whole bill: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/republican-health-care-bill-text/index.html
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
ah what a shitbag
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-asked-us-refute-campaign-collusion-russia-intelligence-chiefs-628228
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
im certain that shit prompted this morning's twittarrhea
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
Hmm.
Big scoop from @TIME: Election Hackers Altered Voter Rolls, Stole Private Data, Officials Say https://t.co/trDWPWQgZH pic.twitter.com/UcNxf1wPlC— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 22, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trumps-tease-comey-tapes-fits-familiar-pattern-48201399
Trump is expected to answer the tapes question this week.
yeah holding my breath for that and it will just pass and he won't ever answer for the bullshit lies. I feel yea Raymond
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
Per solid source: at least 3 GOP sens (perhaps more) plan to announce public opposition to McConnell health bill later today. Developing— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) June 22, 2017
I'm sorry if I'm giving anyone false hope, but...
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
Already seeing an explosion of reaction on the hard right/movement conservativeverse (as muttered earlier) trashing the hell out of the bill.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
Here is the difference between the Senate and House GOP repeal bills, helpfully summarized in two sentences:https://t.co/5eWQjmXEuM pic.twitter.com/cPuClgWg9W— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) June 22, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
i'm just steaming after reading the NYT summary of the bill so i'll take that for now even though it's chuck todd xxp
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
This also pretty indisputably cuts Medicaid (changing funding from 'medical inflation' to less generous 'inflation' standards) which means that Trump is breaking a really core promise. He is not rolling back Obamacare expansion, he is cutting it for everyone.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
Trump on the Senate health care bill-- says it's "going to be negotiated.""A little negotiation, but it's going to be very good."— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) June 22, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
HATCH tells me there are "a lot of differing points of view" on health care bill, which is a "real problem" in pushing it through— Manu Raju (@mkraju) June 22, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
"It's much better than Obamacare," Sen. Purdue. on new health bill. "Why?" we ask. "I have to go read it."— Matt Laslo (@MattLaslo) June 22, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
once the *job creators* are more comfortable, the resulting increase in freedom will make everyone else happier and healthier, too
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
we elect these people to make complex laws that most people can't comprehend and I don't trust them - we need AI that can read these freaking bills and find the essence
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
Rs agree that the kludged "health care" bills leave much of Obamacare in place. But passing them will get "Rs repeal Obamacare" headlines.— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 22, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
Needs to be negotiated. Right now the bill is mean, but they could probably get it up to ghastly.
― Moodles, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
this is great news
was idly wondering last night before I went to sleep - if Congress is so susceptible to constituent pressure, what's to prevent large blocks of people from, say, um (and I am not recommending this just to be clear), pretending to be consituents? Like, it wouldn't be hard for someone to look up a zip code in Texas and provide that to a staffer in Ted Cruz's office when calling to tell him to vote against a bill. As far as I can tell Congressional staffers don't exactly perform background checks when taking comments...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
Wtf they are removing the individual mandate and replacing it with... nothing? How does this not cause the whole thing to collapse?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
You don't think their offices have caller ID? I'm not saying these people are ace detectives but I think don't think they're dumb enough to see hundreds of calls from 617 area codes and say "Man, a lot of my Nevada voters bought their cell phones in Boston!"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
likely result seen in images
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capuchin_Crypt
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
Because they're also replacing Medicaid with... nothing
lol of course thx eephus
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
They're replacing it with tax cuts (on the wealthy). If the system collapses, and it hurts you, it's your fault for being vulnerable in the first place.
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
these fucking evil pricks hope they rot in whatever stupid hell they believe in
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
A lot of stuff could be said about the AHCA bill, but at least the CBO said that the system would be stable under it - as they say it would be without anything done to it. I don't get how a new CBO score doesn't explain that everything will fall apart if you move the mandate and do... nothing, then. And they say the CBO should give their score tomorrow or monday, so... They must have run this by them already, so they must know that.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
I mean, we all know they are insane and evil, but this is insane and evil.
shitty CBO score only matters if it instantly generates millions of calls in swing Senator states
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
which could very well happen
they are tribal. if you are not part of their tribe, they not only don't give a shit what happens to you -- they're amused by your suffering
xpost
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
Re the discussion of aide sleuthery above: I live in Boston and have a 917 number. Cell phones have changed the "area codes are infallible" thing in a big way.
― maura, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
I wonder if they made it flawed on purpose just so they can say they tried because really they realize its in their interests for there to be NO REPEAL
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link