Maybe the problem is making business owners pay taxes at all. I'll bet that's it.
― you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
Meantime
https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10154996557026749
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
fwiw, Mr. Prez.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
'The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely."
obama otm
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
kind of amazing/unpresidented for an ex-president to weigh in on legislation like that
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
These are desperate times
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
there's never been a mass murder bill proposed just to spite a former president before
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
both correct
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
in the past did current presidents call their predecessor a punk ass bitch almost daily like trump does. these are interesting times we live in.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
bipartisan sentiments are for suckers
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
Has Trump started Tweeting at O's statement yet
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
needs to hire hookers to pee on his screen first
― President Keyes, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
farmers are agin it
Cutting Medicaid puts rural hospitals at risk of closure, leaving rural communities with even fewer health care options. #HealthcareBill pic.twitter.com/6DrL63tR28— Nat'l Farmers Union (@NFUDC) June 22, 2017
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
does he have a nickname for obama? crooked O or something like that right
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
those heartland elites when will they know their place xp
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
crooked O or something like that right
the Kenyan
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link
altho let's be honest it's probably just the n-word
Perhaps those reporters who have been asking Trump voters to defend their votes can now ask them to defend the substance of this legislation.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
Go ahead and cut Medicaid and let's see where it gets you as a party, you stupid greedy shits
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
this seems politically suicidial but they've gotten away with some evil stuff in the past so who the fuck knows
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
My dark interpretation is that McConnell is thinking that by unveiling this so close to recess, senators can only get the most minor of concessions, and this bill is such an unsalvageable turd that they all know they will get roasted anyway, no matter if they get a few million for pet concerns.
In other words, he is definitely overplaying his hand. But he'll probably win anyway.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
2018 is going to be a stress test for the GOP voter suppression operation
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
^^
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
this seems politically suicidial but they've gotten away with some evil stuff in the past so who the fuck knows― Treeship, Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:21 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good thread on this
I've about had it with smart people saying that the GOP is either a dictatorship or irrational over the AHCA. More below....— Tom Pepinsky (@TomPepinsky) June 22, 2017
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
cool sentence bro
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link
Well, y'know, the guys he is playing with are cowardly morons, so. The game is rigged.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
by definition, it's not overplaying his hand if the bill passes
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
All we have to do is let him win everything for a few more decades, and then he'll get overconfident!
― President Keyes, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
― Treeship, Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:21 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If 62m (48%) of the voters in America can elect a complete moron for prez, I'm sure this self-mutilating, self-destructing bill won't be a problem either with his "electorate" tbh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
If you go all in on a bad hand, you're overplaying it, no matter what the draw is.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
― President Keyes, Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:36 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
We all need a hug! 😉 https://t.co/I9vZChpRTw— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) June 22, 2017
― the ghost of markers, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
Anyway, a discussion of poker is not what this thread needs.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
i've about had it with polisci dude opining that AHCA is the only thing the GOP has got going on by which we're judging them, but wank on polisci dude.
― popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
Portman has "concerns":
As I’ve said previously, the Affordable Care Act is not working for many Ohio families and small businesses. My goal is to create a more workable system that lowers the cost of coverage, provides access to quality care, and protects the most vulnerable in our society. There are some promising changes to reduce premiums in the individual insurance market, but I continue to have real concerns about the Medicaid policies in this bill, especially those that impact drug treatment at a time when Ohio is facing an opioid epidemic.I look forward to examining this new proposal carefully and reviewing the analysis by the Congressional Budget Office when it is available. If the final legislation is good for Ohio, I will support it. If not, I will oppose it. As this process moves forward, I will continue to work to protect Ohio’s interests and ensure that our health care system works better for all Ohioans.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
Not sure why reporters keep echoing that Trump's appearance in Cedar Rapids, Iowa was mostly for and about farming while glossing over that one of the largest employers in the area is defense contractor Rockwell Collins.
― mh, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:38 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe but maybe not. this bill will have direct, obvious, and catastrophic consequences for working class and middle-income people. i.e. the kind of people for whom a vote for trump seemed like an abstract maybe cathartic gesture.
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
was gonna tweet why Senate bill =monstrous, but heard folks gathering at Reagan airport to confront GOPers running back home Gonna join them— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) June 22, 2017
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
If 62m (48%) of the voters in America
hey man we have like 200m eligible voters. 48% of the people who actually voted, you mean :)
― mh, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link
― Treeship, Thursday, June 22, 2017 9:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I hear you Treesh, but something is seriously wrong if nearly half of a country votes for a complete, utter idiot. Be it 'cathartic gesture' or not. I don't think catastrophic consequences are enough for alot of these people to change their mind, if they voted for him in the first place. Can't see them going 'ohhh he's bad after all!'. Nah, it'll be the libtards or media or 'but emails' fault.
xp Mh yeah that's what I meant soz :)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
Photos of people in wheelchairs handcuffed will help pass AHCA, Y/N?
― Moodles, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link
GOP Senators dgaf
Freedomworks is blasting the bill apparently
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
What happened to the CW of last month, "Oh the Senate bill will HAVE to be VERRRRY different"?
Do the Dems have their song picked out?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
those are paid protestors, fakers, etc.
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
the Senate bill is different Morbz
Reporters are mostly very stupid people who, once they get an idea in their heads ("Iowa = farms", "John McCain = maverick") will never, ever, ever let it go.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
not in the ways people who said that were suggesting
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
it handles Medicaid differently (as predicted), it keeps the pre-existing conditions requirement (as predicted), etc. You wanna quibble about the margins ok whatever. No one ever predicted this bill would actually do any of the things the GOP claims like provide greater coverage or reduce costs, everyone knew this would be a shitshow.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
We elected an idiot in November 1980 with devastating consequences. Many in his party thought he was an idiot. It doesn't matter. He signs their legislation.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
this bill is a tax cut for millionaires and the vaporizing of Medicaid, the dream of the Ayn Rand-ites since 1964.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link