Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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Maybe the problem is making business owners pay taxes at all. I'll bet that's it.

you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

Meantime

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10154996557026749

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

fwiw, Mr. Prez.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

'The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely."

obama otm

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

kind of amazing/unpresidented for an ex-president to weigh in on legislation like that

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

These are desperate times

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

there's never been a mass murder bill proposed just to spite a former president before

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

both correct

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

in the past did current presidents call their predecessor a punk ass bitch almost daily like trump does. these are interesting times we live in.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

bipartisan sentiments are for suckers

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

Has Trump started Tweeting at O's statement yet

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

needs to hire hookers to pee on his screen first

President Keyes, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

farmers are agin it

Cutting Medicaid puts rural hospitals at risk of closure, leaving rural communities with even fewer health care options. #HealthcareBill pic.twitter.com/6DrL63tR28

— Nat'l Farmers Union (@NFUDC) June 22, 2017

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

does he have a nickname for obama? crooked O or something like that right

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

those heartland elites when will they know their place xp

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

crooked O or something like that right

the Kenyan

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

altho let's be honest it's probably just the n-word

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

Perhaps those reporters who have been asking Trump voters to defend their votes can now ask them to defend the substance of this legislation.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

Go ahead and cut Medicaid and let's see where it gets you as a party, you stupid greedy shits

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

this seems politically suicidial but they've gotten away with some evil stuff in the past so who the fuck knows

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

My dark interpretation is that McConnell is thinking that by unveiling this so close to recess, senators can only get the most minor of concessions, and this bill is such an unsalvageable turd that they all know they will get roasted anyway, no matter if they get a few million for pet concerns.

In other words, he is definitely overplaying his hand. But he'll probably win anyway.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

2018 is going to be a stress test for the GOP voter suppression operation

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

^^

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

this seems politically suicidial but they've gotten away with some evil stuff in the past so who the fuck knows
― Treeship, Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:21 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good thread on this

I've about had it with smart people saying that the GOP is either a dictatorship or irrational over the AHCA. More below....

— Tom Pepinsky (@TomPepinsky) June 22, 2017

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

In other words, he is definitely overplaying his hand. But he'll probably win anyway.

cool sentence bro

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

Well, y'know, the guys he is playing with are cowardly morons, so. The game is rigged.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

by definition, it's not overplaying his hand if the bill passes

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

All we have to do is let him win everything for a few more decades, and then he'll get overconfident!

President Keyes, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

this seems politically suicidial but they've gotten away with some evil stuff in the past so who the fuck knows

― Treeship, Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:21 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If 62m (48%) of the voters in America can elect a complete moron for prez, I'm sure this self-mutilating, self-destructing bill won't be a problem either with his "electorate" tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

If you go all in on a bad hand, you're overplaying it, no matter what the draw is.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

All we have to do is let him win everything for a few more decades, and then he'll get overconfident!

― President Keyes, Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:36 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

We all need a hug! 😉 https://t.co/I9vZChpRTw

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) June 22, 2017

the ghost of markers, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

Anyway, a discussion of poker is not what this thread needs.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

i've about had it with polisci dude opining that AHCA is the only thing the GOP has got going on by which we're judging them, but wank on polisci dude.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

Portman has "concerns":

As I’ve said previously, the Affordable Care Act is not working for many Ohio families and small businesses. My goal is to create a more workable system that lowers the cost of coverage, provides access to quality care, and protects the most vulnerable in our society. There are some promising changes to reduce premiums in the individual insurance market, but I continue to have real concerns about the Medicaid policies in this bill, especially those that impact drug treatment at a time when Ohio is facing an opioid epidemic.I look forward to examining this new proposal carefully and reviewing the analysis by the Congressional Budget Office when it is available. If the final legislation is good for Ohio, I will support it. If not, I will oppose it. As this process moves forward, I will continue to work to protect Ohio’s interests and ensure that our health care system works better for all Ohioans.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

Not sure why reporters keep echoing that Trump's appearance in Cedar Rapids, Iowa was mostly for and about farming while glossing over that one of the largest employers in the area is defense contractor Rockwell Collins.

mh, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

If 62m (48%) of the voters in America can elect a complete moron for prez, I'm sure this self-mutilating, self-destructing bill won't be a problem either with his "electorate" tbh

― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:38 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe but maybe not. this bill will have direct, obvious, and catastrophic consequences for working class and middle-income people. i.e. the kind of people for whom a vote for trump seemed like an abstract maybe cathartic gesture.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

was gonna tweet why Senate bill =monstrous, but heard folks gathering at Reagan airport to confront GOPers running back home Gonna join them

— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) June 22, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

If 62m (48%) of the voters in America

hey man we have like 200m eligible voters. 48% of the people who actually voted, you mean :)

mh, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

maybe but maybe not. this bill will have direct, obvious, and catastrophic consequences for working class and middle-income people. i.e. the kind of people for whom a vote for trump seemed like an abstract maybe cathartic gesture.

― Treeship, Thursday, June 22, 2017 9:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hear you Treesh, but something is seriously wrong if nearly half of a country votes for a complete, utter idiot. Be it 'cathartic gesture' or not. I don't think catastrophic consequences are enough for alot of these people to change their mind, if they voted for him in the first place. Can't see them going 'ohhh he's bad after all!'. Nah, it'll be the libtards or media or 'but emails' fault.

xp Mh yeah that's what I meant soz :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

Photos of people in wheelchairs handcuffed will help pass AHCA, Y/N?

Moodles, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

GOP Senators dgaf

Freedomworks is blasting the bill apparently

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

What happened to the CW of last month, "Oh the Senate bill will HAVE to be VERRRRY different"?

Do the Dems have their song picked out?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

those are paid protestors, fakers, etc.

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

the Senate bill is different Morbz

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

Not sure why reporters keep echoing that Trump's appearance in Cedar Rapids, Iowa was mostly for and about farming while glossing over that one of the largest employers in the area is defense contractor Rockwell Collins.

Reporters are mostly very stupid people who, once they get an idea in their heads ("Iowa = farms", "John McCain = maverick") will never, ever, ever let it go.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

not in the ways people who said that were suggesting

xp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

it handles Medicaid differently (as predicted), it keeps the pre-existing conditions requirement (as predicted), etc. You wanna quibble about the margins ok whatever. No one ever predicted this bill would actually do any of the things the GOP claims like provide greater coverage or reduce costs, everyone knew this would be a shitshow.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

I hear you Treesh, but something is seriously wrong if nearly half of a country votes for a complete, utter idiot. Be it 'cathartic gesture' or not. I don't think catastrophic consequences are enough for alot of these people to change their mind, if they voted for him in the first place. Can't see them going 'ohhh he's bad after all!'. Nah, it'll be the libtards or media or 'but emails' fault.

We elected an idiot in November 1980 with devastating consequences. Many in his party thought he was an idiot. It doesn't matter. He signs their legislation.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

this bill is a tax cut for millionaires and the vaporizing of Medicaid, the dream of the Ayn Rand-ites since 1964.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link


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