George Harrison's Indian Songs for the Beatles

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George was a solid producer -- of the four members he could've had a profitable sideline doing it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link

That's true, the random stuff he produced for others generally sounds v good

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link

What random stuff should I check? Of course he co-wrote "If Not For You" with Dylan---big hit for Olivia Newton-John! Maybe teamed up for writing and/or producing some Wilburys tracks? Don't think I've ever heard a whole GH album, though liked some of the solo singles. Also wondering about Electronic Sound and the Bombay sessions, source of "The Inner Light"and much more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderwall_Music

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:40 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I agree about Harrison being a solid producer - the stuff he did for Badfinger in particular springs to mind. It's tempting to imagine an alternate timeline in which Harrison jacks in his solo career after All Things Must Pass and becomes a full-time producer. It would have spared us all a lot of lousy records, and I reckon Harrison would have only got better as a producer the more he did it.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link

otm. He was the only Beatle interested in it, and he had the chops and studio knowledge.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

Here, dow! I tried to show range.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

Of course he co-wrote "If Not For You" with Dylan---

Actually, he didn't -- you're thinking of "I'd Have You Anytime."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

Underrated GH co-production
https://youtu.be/LjhRmOnoFBo

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

It's worth noting too that for about three years George was the best-selling solo Beatle -- and did it again in the late eighties. I wonder how Paul felt about it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:21 (six years ago) link

He has a production credit on some of the wilbury stuff too.

This aint bad
https://youtu.be/xqXIeYTiJic

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

xpost:

He was probably surprised at Harrison's early solo success (as all the Beatles were) but by Cloud Nine I doubt he gave much of a shit - he'd already chalked up numerous hit singles and albums without The Beatles by that point, 'Mull of Kintyre' even being a UK million-seller.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

I couldn't imagine McCartney as a producer - he's suitable as a producer or co-producer for his own records, and that's it. If he tried to produce anyone else, he'd just try and turn it into a McCartney record.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

That's what happened with "Come And Get It." Badfinger would say, "Can we try it this way?" and Paul would be all, "No, because if we do it my way, it'll be a hit. Also, I'm Paul McCartney."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

John otoh at least did a good job on Pussycats, but I think thats it for him...?

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

xpost:

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of when trying to picture McCartney as a producer... McCartney had Badfinger copy his demo note-for-note, whereas Harrison allowed them to be themselves and just tried to get the tracks sounding as strong as possible.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link

xpost:

He was probably surprised at Harrison's early solo success (as all the Beatles were) but by /Cloud Nine/ I doubt he gave much of a shit - he'd already chalked up numerous hit singles and albums without The Beatles by that point, 'Mull of Kintyre' even being a UK million-seller.

If I'm not mistaken, it was around this time that Paul asked George about trying to write together. George basically told him to fuck off.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link

If I was George I would have said the same thing, tbh. By that point, Paul had a zillion co-writes with Linda (although I suspect this was a business move) and none with Harrison.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link

It was during the Cloud Nine/Wilbury era when Paul started making noises about wanting to write with George.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

oh woops -- missed Tarfumes' post. Sorry!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

Ha, that's great.

Supposedly, Ringo (who was in the movie) refused to play on the Beatles re-recordings for Broad Street. He said to Paul, "Nope, I think we got it right the first time around."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

someone explain the title of 'love you to' to me. he signs "i'll make love to you" and 'love you to' doesn't make any grammatical sense. was it a typo?

akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

"Supposedly, Ringo (who was in the movie) refused to play on the Beatles re-recordings for Broad Street. He said to Paul, "Nope, I think we got it right the first time around.""

he played on them

akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

he signs "i'll make love to you" and 'love you to' doesn't make any grammatical sense. was it a typo?

I'd love you to find an answer for that question.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

McCartney produced Bonzo Dog Band, Ringo, and Mary Hopkin.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

Mary hopkin is the worst

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

Also - the Fourmost, Peggy Lee, Mike McGear/Scaffold, Linda McCartney, Denny Laine, and a late '80s comeback record by the Crickets.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

it's just the one Bonzos song, no?

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

I think so - "I'm the Urban Spaceman" under a pseudonym. It was a single for them.

A 1987 version of the Rockestra Theme by Duane Eddy.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Some serious manspreading going on in that George Harrison interview.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

he played on them

― akm, Saturday, June 24, 2017 1:33 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really? Hm. I know he played on other tracks on the soundtrack, but I think it's Peter Doggett's book that says he wouldn't play on the Beatles songs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

It was only because he couldn't find the brushes in time.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

oh you're right. ha, I always thought he did play on those but I just saw a mccartney quote stating he didn't, because he didn't want to compare his original performances to the new ones

akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Those re-recordings are so fucking unnecessary.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

Sure, but at least they got Paul to use "McCartney-Lennon" as the songwriting credits for the first time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

Thanks for the content guys---Alfred, I enjoy his voice with the Beatles and on his singles, but might get sick of it on a whole album, along with those 70s studio hacks you mention---would like to hear him sing "IT Don't Come Easy", which I didn't know he wrote and produced--maybe too bad he didn't do a duet album with Ringo---which reminds me, I liked his duets with Paul Simon on SNL, back in the 70s or early 80s.

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

*Some( of his singles, that is, mostly the later ones. Oh well, at least he gave us Handmade Films (for the sake of which, along world peace, he flew to Asian location and tried to mediate between Sean Penn and Madonna, yeesh).

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

along with world peace.

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

i think there's a version of "it don't come easy" with george on vox on some bootleg. it's not bad. i still like ringo's vocals better, but that could just be because i'm acclimated to them.

Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 June 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

My old boss recently told me about coming in as a player on a session for McCartney's son (Paul was producing). He said Paul was excellent as a producer, very laid back about suggestions but with a keen idea of what he wanted sonically from each musician. Old boss said the kid was "fucking weird", though lol

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 25 June 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

i think there's a version of "it don't come easy" with george on vox on some bootleg. it's not bad. i still like ringo's vocals better, but that could just be because i'm acclimated to them.

yep, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=160&v=4p5yzdCa2GE

Darin, Sunday, 25 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

My old boss recently told me about coming in as a player on a session for McCartney's son (Paul was producing). He said Paul was excellent as a producer, very laid back about suggestions but with a keen idea of what he wanted sonically from each musician. Old boss said the kid was "fucking weird", though lol

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, June 25, 2017 1:29 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Have you ever watched an interview with James McCartney? It's like gazing into an alternate universe where Paul McCartney is a fat, balding, introverted southerner.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 25 June 2017 08:51 (six years ago) link

Sure, but at least they got Paul to use "McCartney-Lennon" as the songwriting credits for the first time.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, June 24, 2017 11:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm sure there are some early records where its this way around..

Mark G, Sunday, 25 June 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

Yeah, check the 'Please please me' lp...

Mark G, Sunday, 25 June 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

Dig this one - Macca had bought the rights to LMD and PSILY, so he gets it his way round and published by himself alone!

https://img.discogs.com/pjGEk5ST4L9TJ9dCiYjBu_wVm5g=/fit-in/600x599/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4411022-1397392446-3720.jpeg.jpg

Mark G, Sunday, 25 June 2017 09:20 (six years ago) link

I think it's always been "McCartney-Lennon" on that record. First pressings it is.

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link

I had a '70s pressing, same thing.

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link

True, it was always McCartney-Lennon on PPM. But the songs on Broad Street were Revolver-era, and originally listed as Lennon-McCartney (not that Lennon hand much to do with writing "Eleanor Rigby," but still).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

On which version of Broad Street are they "McCartney-Lennon?"

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link


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