George Harrison's Indian Songs for the Beatles

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oh woops -- missed Tarfumes' post. Sorry!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

Ha, that's great.

Supposedly, Ringo (who was in the movie) refused to play on the Beatles re-recordings for Broad Street. He said to Paul, "Nope, I think we got it right the first time around."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

someone explain the title of 'love you to' to me. he signs "i'll make love to you" and 'love you to' doesn't make any grammatical sense. was it a typo?

akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

"Supposedly, Ringo (who was in the movie) refused to play on the Beatles re-recordings for Broad Street. He said to Paul, "Nope, I think we got it right the first time around.""

he played on them

akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

he signs "i'll make love to you" and 'love you to' doesn't make any grammatical sense. was it a typo?

I'd love you to find an answer for that question.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

McCartney produced Bonzo Dog Band, Ringo, and Mary Hopkin.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

Mary hopkin is the worst

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

Also - the Fourmost, Peggy Lee, Mike McGear/Scaffold, Linda McCartney, Denny Laine, and a late '80s comeback record by the Crickets.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

it's just the one Bonzos song, no?

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

I think so - "I'm the Urban Spaceman" under a pseudonym. It was a single for them.

A 1987 version of the Rockestra Theme by Duane Eddy.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Some serious manspreading going on in that George Harrison interview.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

he played on them

― akm, Saturday, June 24, 2017 1:33 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really? Hm. I know he played on other tracks on the soundtrack, but I think it's Peter Doggett's book that says he wouldn't play on the Beatles songs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

It was only because he couldn't find the brushes in time.

timellison, Saturday, 24 June 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

oh you're right. ha, I always thought he did play on those but I just saw a mccartney quote stating he didn't, because he didn't want to compare his original performances to the new ones

akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Those re-recordings are so fucking unnecessary.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

Sure, but at least they got Paul to use "McCartney-Lennon" as the songwriting credits for the first time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

Thanks for the content guys---Alfred, I enjoy his voice with the Beatles and on his singles, but might get sick of it on a whole album, along with those 70s studio hacks you mention---would like to hear him sing "IT Don't Come Easy", which I didn't know he wrote and produced--maybe too bad he didn't do a duet album with Ringo---which reminds me, I liked his duets with Paul Simon on SNL, back in the 70s or early 80s.

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

*Some( of his singles, that is, mostly the later ones. Oh well, at least he gave us Handmade Films (for the sake of which, along world peace, he flew to Asian location and tried to mediate between Sean Penn and Madonna, yeesh).

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

along with world peace.

dow, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

i think there's a version of "it don't come easy" with george on vox on some bootleg. it's not bad. i still like ringo's vocals better, but that could just be because i'm acclimated to them.

Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 June 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

My old boss recently told me about coming in as a player on a session for McCartney's son (Paul was producing). He said Paul was excellent as a producer, very laid back about suggestions but with a keen idea of what he wanted sonically from each musician. Old boss said the kid was "fucking weird", though lol

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 25 June 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

i think there's a version of "it don't come easy" with george on vox on some bootleg. it's not bad. i still like ringo's vocals better, but that could just be because i'm acclimated to them.

yep, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=160&v=4p5yzdCa2GE

Darin, Sunday, 25 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

My old boss recently told me about coming in as a player on a session for McCartney's son (Paul was producing). He said Paul was excellent as a producer, very laid back about suggestions but with a keen idea of what he wanted sonically from each musician. Old boss said the kid was "fucking weird", though lol

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, June 25, 2017 1:29 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Have you ever watched an interview with James McCartney? It's like gazing into an alternate universe where Paul McCartney is a fat, balding, introverted southerner.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 25 June 2017 08:51 (six years ago) link

Sure, but at least they got Paul to use "McCartney-Lennon" as the songwriting credits for the first time.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, June 24, 2017 11:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm sure there are some early records where its this way around..

Mark G, Sunday, 25 June 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

Yeah, check the 'Please please me' lp...

Mark G, Sunday, 25 June 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

Dig this one - Macca had bought the rights to LMD and PSILY, so he gets it his way round and published by himself alone!

https://img.discogs.com/pjGEk5ST4L9TJ9dCiYjBu_wVm5g=/fit-in/600x599/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4411022-1397392446-3720.jpeg.jpg

Mark G, Sunday, 25 June 2017 09:20 (six years ago) link

I think it's always been "McCartney-Lennon" on that record. First pressings it is.

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link

I had a '70s pressing, same thing.

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link

True, it was always McCartney-Lennon on PPM. But the songs on Broad Street were Revolver-era, and originally listed as Lennon-McCartney (not that Lennon hand much to do with writing "Eleanor Rigby," but still).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

On which version of Broad Street are they "McCartney-Lennon?"

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link

None that I've been able to find looking on Discogs.

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link

Even the most recent UK 45 of "From Me To You" is Mc-L on both sides! ("Thank you Girl" is very Lennon song)

Mark G, Monday, 26 June 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link

On which version of Broad Street are they "McCartney-Lennon?"

― timellison, Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wikipedia sez:

A notable switch from past album song credits is the crediting of song writing to "McCartney-Lennon" as opposed to the usual "Lennon-McCartney" on all other albums.

It doesn't specify which issue. I don't remember anything in the music press about it at the time; it wasn't until Paul reversed the credits on his Back in the U.S. live record that people made a big deal about it:

On Back in the U.S., McCartney reversed the songwriting credits for nineteen Lennon–McCartney compositions to read "Paul McCartney and John Lennon"[11] – a move that author Howard Sounes describes as the live album's "chief point of interest".[12] This gesture was a further attempt by McCartney to establish his legacy following Lennon's death in 1980,[13] having been vetoed from adopting the McCartney–Lennon credit during the Beatles Anthology project in 1995 by his former bandmates George Harrison and Ringo Starr.[14]

The revised credits on Back in the U.S. incensed Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono, who threatened to take legal action,[11] while Starr said he found McCartney's actions "underhanded".[12][15] Some commentators observed that McCartney had similarly credited his Beatles songs to "McCartney–Lennon" on the 1976 live album Wings over America[16] and that Lennon had never publicly objected to the reversal;[13][17] in addition, the compositions in question were written with little or no input from Lennon.[12][18] When compiling Back in the U.S., McCartney had decided to act in response to Ono's dropping of his co-writer's credit for "Give Peace a Chance", on the 1997 compilation Lennon Legend: The Very Best of John Lennon.[citation needed] Despite their differences on this issue, McCartney and Starr united on stage for the Harrison tribute concert shortly after the release of the live album.[19]

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 June 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

Citation here, hi.

I noticed the solo "Lennon" credit for "Give Peace a chance" at the end of the "Live Peace In Toronto" movie.

np.

Mark G, Monday, 26 June 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

I looked at a bunch of versions of Broad Street on Discogs including a '93 CD reissue and every one is Lennon-McCartney.

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

I thought it was Wings Over America on which the credits are reversed.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

Yes

timellison, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

aw man for a second i thought y'all were all talking about macca's awful "P.S. Love Me Do" from the late 80s.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

did he really?

Mark G, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkRxeoBY70

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 26 June 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

a move that author Howard Sounes describes as the live album's "chief point of interest".

Cold.

dinnerboat, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

That "P.S. Love Me Do"...it's too obviously bad to be as bad as it is. It's like when your car gets broken into, and you see the broken window and you have a split second of disbelief like, "No, there's no way that's my car, because if it was, man, that'd really suck." Paul manages to sustain that split second of disbelief for 3:44. That's pretty impressive.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 June 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link


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