If this bill gets delayed, it gives Collins, et al more time to get bought -- unless protests increase.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link
$200 billion is p of monopoly money for mcconnell. Unless Collins insists in spending it all on planned parenthood
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link
Susan Collins tweeted that she will vote no. Dean Heller, Susan Collins, what about Lisa Murkowsky?
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link
Most reporting says that McConnell's been writing off Rand's vote from the get-go.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link
Then it's dead... We'll know this afternoon. I mean, you'll know, I'm going to go on a four day bender in a moment. Hope you'll be able to handle this without me :)
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
yeah I suspect McConnell counted on losing Collins + Paul long ago.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
Isn't there a story that McConnell is anticipating a loss on this bill as part of his playing 6D Chess. All very covert and subtle and stuff.
Also seeing a couple of sources saying that Supreme Court ruling on travel ban actually gives more security to travellers on a couple of points,. Is that just open pollyannaing or is it true?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
What McConnell doesn't know is that I'm anticipating his loss and I've been acting accordingly for over a year now
7D chess
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
is the only reason McConnell wants a vote this week is because he doesn't want to leave it in limbo when members go on recess? or are there other deadlines, like for passing tax reform, that depend on getting this out of the way by a particular date?
― evol j, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
what kinda glasses do you gotta wear for 7d chess
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
I bet that if the GOP were remotely patient and not total dicks, and especially if Trump had not been like that x10 for months even before the get-go, they could have accomplished nearly every last asshole thing they wanted to accomplish.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
i watched the documentary 'mitt' one time. worth a watch, lots of behind the scenes footage to a degree that you wonder how or why it was made. anyway, through the whole movie, mitt's advisers were basically spouting lines they'd read from ross douthat and the huffington post and shit, like barely even approaching chess let alone multidimensional chess. i'm skeptical of all the 'trial balloon' covert positioning theories, i think mcconnell wants to pass the bill and is trying to pass it.
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
He thought that the members wouldn't want to go on recess with the plan over their heads, so would make sure to pass it before. Because of the reconciliation process they have to get it finished before september, but I don't know of other deadlines.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
people who donate millions to the GOP have billions of $$$ riding on this. of course they want it to pass.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
There's always a crunch to get major legislation out of the way before the next election season starts ramping up. If they have to come back and spend another month trying to behead healthcare then the tax cut debate will take up pretty much the rest of the year, meaning that they'll come back in 2018 unable to do much of anything and possibly with two big self-defeats.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
can we keep posting photos of McConnell
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
having to retract stories about "Russia" (what are the quotes for?) kinda plays into the Mad Tweeter's hands:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/trump-cnn-retracts-story-239988
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
https://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/print-edition/20141101_USP003_0.jpg
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
this is the base layer:
http://i.imgur.com/RBaXGwe.jpg
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
if it doesn't pass now (or doesn't even come up for a vote, more likely), it can still pass in July or August. remember the experience in the house
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/925/4dchesss.JPG
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
if mcconnell and co are playing any sort of medium to longterm game, they might be seeing where their heaviest opposition lies - moderates or asshole far right so they can recalibrate the bill toward those interests, change a few things around, carry the 9, push this medicaid cut to that year, carry the 3, get a new CBO score that's marginally better, and give it another push when the opposition has already played their hand. that's what i'd do if i was even more of a total asshole, and if i teleported into mcconnell's boots
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
Best photo of McConnell in a while
http://static.politico.com/dims4/default/08a2c5c/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe3%2F66%2Fca53b3c94a968661e6770af54380%2F170623-mitch-mcconnell-2-ap-1160.jpg
Tied in with this:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/republican-health-care-bill-mitch-mcconnell-trump-239998
Mitch McConnell is delivering an urgent warning to staffers, Republican senators and even the president himself: If Obamacare repeal fails this week, the GOP will lose all leverage and be forced to work with Chuck Schumer.
Dogs and cats living together or something.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
Great. The Plankton with a Hairpiece has the keys to Latin American foreign policy.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
Outsourcing!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
Whomp whomp
"Also important to Mr. Bannon was finding a “Lanny Davis” type" https://t.co/U8OPgAe2bg via @WSJ— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) June 27, 2017
More from story:
As investigations intensify into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the 2016 presidential campaign, at least 10 White House officials and former aides have retained lawyers in conjunction with the probes, or are moving to do so.Inside the White House, President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, all have hired private attorneys, as have former campaign advisers Michael Caputo, Boris Epshteyn and Roger Stone, among others.
Inside the White House, President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, all have hired private attorneys, as have former campaign advisers Michael Caputo, Boris Epshteyn and Roger Stone, among others.
Kasowitz's advice *clearly* taken here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
this seems probable, again looking at the House's experience. there was significant pushback against the first iteration of their bill and it failed, but when they trotted out the revised version the opposition was relatively muted and lo and behold it passed.
I called my senators for the first time today about this, hopefully I'm not the only one.
― evol j, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
I've called the Plankton's office every day.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
it really sucks when people insist on placing the burden on the people who are going to be hurt by GOPcare to go out and protest
i feel the same way about going out and getting involved in a public protest as radicals feel about voting - it seems practically worthless to me
― korla pundit (crüt), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
every time i try to call my senator the line is busy. who has time for that?
― korla pundit (crüt), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
i'm curious to see if relentless civil disobedience becomes a broad tactic ever again.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link
The protests didn't stop passage of a House bill, but it got people into town halls and scared the shit out of GOP legislators enough for them to worry about 2018. They work.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
Wow, CNN had to retract big story on "Russia," with 3 employees forced to resign. What about all the other phony stories they do? FAKE NEWS!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2017
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
guys cnn is fake fyi
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDRHMGLXsAINQKV.jpg
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
I thought Mike Huckabee taught us that CNN actually stood for Cardiac Care Network
― black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
President Donald Trump continued to float the possibility on Monday that Congress and the White House would simply let Obamacare’s individual markets collapse if the GOP’s repeal effort goes down later this week. But McConnell called up Trump recently, according to people with knowledge of the call, to deliver a reality check.
Voters expect Republicans to deliver on their long-held promise to repeal the law, McConnell said, according to those people. And failing to repeal the law would mean the GOP would lose its opportunity to do a partisan rewrite of the law that could scale back Medicaid spending, cut Obamacare’s taxes and repeal a host of industry mandates.
Thing is, though, that that is exactly what Trump promised he wouldn't do. This should not work at all, but Trump is such an imbecile it probably does...
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
i think people should stop calling this 'trumpcare', it implies that there is actually care involved, or even a plan that doesn't kill
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
#wealthcare
― evol j, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
Trumpcarcass
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
wealthcare is pretty good
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
dontcare
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
Pres pool watched Pres Trump on hold for at least 90 seconds waiting for the new Irish Prime Minister to pick up. pic.twitter.com/dG2uK9UlGz— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) June 27, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
he was actually calling Domino's to place an order
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
*consults blank piece of paper*
― nomar, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
he looks like he's doing face exercises
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
xpost - Meaning the State Department personnel list?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
HO
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
Funny how it works
Orrin Hatch says details of possible changes to the Senate healthcare bill are "beyond my pay grade." He's third in line for the presidency.— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) June 27, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
these motherfuckers
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
#1 hasn't got the details down either it seems
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link