Trump, July 2017: Tweet more

lol burn

.@realDonaldTrump's performance at the #G20 shows he "has no desire and no capacity to lead the world": @CUhlmann https://t.co/0ithCHSWyK pic.twitter.com/iW0X78UNVZ

— ABC News (@abcnews) July 9, 2017

i think there's an interesting argument that hw bush and/or dole winning against clinton probably would have been better for keeping the GOP a more moderate party and the democrats mightve started saying "we cant win being the gop-lite like clinton!" but it's such a depressing thought

The argument is stronger with Poppy Bush winning reelection (and it delays Dems losing House and Senate).

Counterfactuals are endless fun for the whole Internet

So this Times story that just broke. Is this it?

I don't know what it is yet, but I'm going to predict that no, it isn't it

Go to http://www.nytimes.com

dude don't do that to people

President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

The Times reported the existence of the meeting on Saturday. But in subsequent interviews, the advisers and others revealed the motivation behind it.

The meeting — at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican nomination — points to the central question in federal investigations of the Kremlin’s meddling in the presidential election: whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The accounts of the meeting represent the first public indication that at least some in the campaign were willing to accept Russian help.

It's not "it" but it is hilarious

Nothing substantial gets dropped on a sunday afternoon

my god they are so dumb

Seeing it described like that, and that Donald Jr was allowed to be involved, makes me think they probably weren't capable of actually colluding. But sure seems as if they tried to. And a fun question is why Manafort and Kushner all of a sudden disclosed the meeting. Sure seems like something else is about to drop.

Again, Coen Bros movie, not LeCarre novel

Treesh I wasn't trying to be bad at the internet, I was just expressing the frustration that no matter what it is, it won't be the thing that takes trump down

Kushner could quite honestly be out over this. This is fucking stupid, and he is the only one of the three still involved in the administration.

but if kushner is out, who will take the lead on

peace in the middle east
opiod crisis
running government like a business
criminal justice reform
dipomacy with china and mexico
reforming VA healthcare

i mean, that's like the work of at least two normal people, right

Sorry karl i am at work otherwise i would have summarized it

"it" will be GOP politicos suffering via Yam, and we might be a year or more away. so plz don't do that treesh

xpost oh no need! i headed to NYT a couple seconds after sending that post, i just wanted to be pre-emptively trenchant

because everybody loooooves that! :)

This article sounds like attempted "collusion" which is the word we keep hearing

How did Donald Trump Jr think this dirt would have been obtained?

Getting rid of Kushner is optional atm. We still need to pry Bannon and Miller out of the WH. God knows what they're doing day after day, but it can't be good.

This is so fucking stupid... Donald Jr really is one of the most stupid people on earth. I also love that Kushner and Manafort both disclosed the meeting at the same time, but neither of them apparently gave Don Jr a heads up. It's Kushner's brother-in-law, and he completely sold him out.

They're all bad.

Xp

imagine being the "smart" brother but you're Don Jr

How did Donald Trump Jr think this dirt would have been obtained?

― Treeship, 9. juli 2017 23:22 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To be absolutely fair, the meeting took place in June 6th, and the Crowdstrike report on the DNC hacking only came out on June 14th. So Donald Jr probably didn't know that the Russians were hacking, and just thought they'd found some dirt. Still, though, the whole thing is so fucking stupid.

imagine being the "good-looking" brother but you're Don Jr

A guy called Rinat Akhmetshin was running smear campaigns against prominent supporters of the Magnitsky act at the time - and working with the lawyer in question, Veselnitskaya, on behalf of the real estate company Prevezon. His job was to dig up and spin any dirt he could find. Prevezon, as was mentioned in the article, was under indictment for money laundering.

There isn't necessarily any link to hacking or government conspiracies but it definitely looks like they were lobbied directly by a company pretty obviously guilty of laundering large sums through NY real estate and who were, at the time, involved both in dirty tricks and in trying to get political leverage to drive down their liabilities.

Y'all complained about "covfefe," but I'd rather deal with that thing than opening this thread to Scott Walker's endless plain of bland.

I love that jr's defense is "yes i tried to collude, but the woman tricked me into taking a meeting about adoption"

morbs otm if gop isn't frying, trump aint dying.

At the least it seems like something Trump Jr. gets to be questioned over (whether by Mueller, Senate Intelligence or both is what I wonder).

ppl are like, "who set up the meeting" and i'm like duh, hrc set up the meeting as organizer, through outlook on her email account.

I feel like the important part is that these shitbirds are turning on each other in press interviews now. That would seem to imply Mueller's team already has all this.

Good point!

Scott Walker's endless plain of bland.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:46 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Harsh. I blame SunnO))) for Soused meself tbh

It gets better!

WaPo IDs the intermediary: Rob Goldstone, a music publicist friendly w/ Don Jr., says he arranged the meeting at request of a Russian client https://t.co/vMJSLX2OkU

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 9, 2017

"they're just really excited to tell you about foxygen" https://t.co/qDFnZiEasq

— rob harvilla (@harvilla) July 10, 2017

Rob Goldstone, the Donald Trump Jr. acquaintance who brokered the meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer, the day after the 2016 US election: pic.twitter.com/20bMLUvDiH

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) July 9, 2017

Oh now you're all just fucking with me https://t.co/dnzanQTtQd

— zedediah springfield (@ZeddRebel) July 10, 2017

I wish foxygen was actually involved.

I love anything that involves Don Jr, because he even more than his dad seems likely to say something stupid and incriminating.

wait is goldstone the 400 pound guy trump kept blaming the hacking on

Meanwhile:

The fact that President Putin and I discussed a Cyber Security unit doesn't mean I think it can happen. It can't-but a ceasefire can,& did!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 10, 2017

Such a tactician.

Seeing it described like that, and that Donald Jr was allowed to be involved, makes me think they probably weren't capable of actually colluding. But sure seems as if they tried to. And a fun question is why Manafort and Kushner all of a sudden disclosed the meeting. Sure seems like something else is about to drop.

what I want to know is - why is this highly damaging and super sketchy rationale (he thought the russians would give him dirt on clinton!) the explanation given by the trump people?? the previous NYT article about this meeting yesterday said the meeting was about adoption policy. now this.

basically are administration sources trying to preemptively steer away from the possibility that there was some kind of quid pro quo involved? did some of them try to change US policy to make it more favorable to russia and in exchange for what?

Yes, in exchange for the election.

yet we know that trump has a history of not paying his contractors

donald trump jr will be tweeting about foxygen soon, it is fated

also lol xp

Didn't know Rob Harvilla was an international man of mystery.

NY Daily News Cover Tomorrow: "Kid Pro Quo" pic.twitter.com/437QqQzQjr

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 10, 2017