Spotify - anyone heard of it?

In any case the resulting playlist is a lot better than the daily mix, for me so far

http://spotify.me/

I CAN'T STOP RATING SONGS HELP

I know! I spent a couple of hours doing it last night, and it was so addictive I had a hard time getting myself to go to bed. Something about the near-immediate feedback of having the playlist update itself after every batch of ratings.

on the one hand this is a useful feature; on the other hand I am clearly not the intended audience because I use Spotify for reviewing albums, so I'll get a bunch of what I normally listen to and then Harry Styles

a lot of my assessments were fairly spot on but it listed my lifetime top album as neil young, harvest moon, which i've only streamed a handful from there, if ever. not sure how they computed that

If this stuff is bland and unidentifiable, why are people so upset about who records it in the first place?

Another problem, due to the setup that Spotify works as two big pools, premium and free, is click farms that play their own music 24/7.

Spotify could fix that by directly linking subscription fees and plays by account (ie, your money, minus Spotify's cut, goes to the artists you play), but apparently that's too much admin.

where do you get the option to rate songs? this must just not be working for me... do you have to stay in the web browser?

According to spotify.me, my most listened to genre is Escape Room. I have no I idea what Escape Room means, so I'm guessing it's one of the things Glenn made up.

it's a genre of video games and/or live-action recreations where you solve puzzles to get out of a room. not sure what the soundtrack for that would be, let's ask Spotify's gaming section

...the answer appears to be Rag'n'Bone Man

well, you're only human after all

https://festivalpeak.com/what-is-escape-room-and-why-is-it-one-of-my-top-genres-on-spotify-a886372f003f

Song ratings is a browser based thing originally posted by caek upthread: https://surveys.spotify.com/affinity

So, basically, Glenn McDonald has control over the future of dumb musical genre names?

vp over the future of dumb musical genre names is a cool job. or job title, maybe.

dammit, now I have to get new business cards made again

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/12/15961416/spotify-fake-artist-controversy-mystery-tracks

I like the idea that AI will provide these fake filler songs in the future.

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http://www.koat.com/article/alexa-credited-for-calling-911-but-amazon-says-she-cant-do-that/10289228

to post something in here that is not endless complaining: I do appreciate that they're trying, and trying different things. even if this particular version, with tracks I've already listened to about 1000 times interspersed with recommendations, is a bit uncanny-valley

There's this certain very specific type of modern R&B--lazy, completely (and annoyingly) unquantized beats with always a little too much time between the kick and the snare/clap/snap (you can just imagine the producer hovering over his MPC congratulating himself on his own genius), with "woke" borderline slam poetry style vocals--that Spotify desperately and insistently thinks I'll love, and keeps offering me over and over again. Get the hint, algorithm!

Couldn't think of a specific example because I usually just skip them and move on, but I didn't have to wait long, because this was the very next track on the list!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FAduzmtj_c

Except that's not as bad as most--imagine that except with the entire beat played "live" without quantization.

Kind of off topic for the thread, I guess, but I'm so amazed (not upset) that Spotify keeps presenting me with this stuff over and over despite me doing nothing (as far as I know) to encourage it.

Is it because i love gil scott heron? idgi

Where are we "offering" those to you? Discover Weekly?

I think? Or maybe they're usually on Release Radar? And definitely on https://surveys.spotify.com/affinity , which every 15 songs or so goes "here's another one! Are you suuure you still don't like this stuff?" XD

Anyway, I'm definitely not complaining, it's just so weird to me that there's this perseveration for such a very specific sound (I don't hate it, it's just not for me!)

Not asking you to do anything, just remarking on it

Actually it was less about spotify and more about that particular R&B sound, which I'm surprised is apparently such a well established niche

Ah ha! This thread is EXACTLY what I was getting at, so I'll go there to satisfy any more morbid curiosity that I might have: itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

you will never escape the room

Here's my stats on Spotify.me:

Top Artist: Stereolab

Here’s When You Listen:
11:00pm Most active hour (America/Mexico_City) / 609min Streamed since Jul 2011.

Here’s How You Listen:
60% of your tracks are danceable : Are you the life of the party?
Overall, your tracks are positive : Good vibes only
38% of your tracks are energetic : Pump up the volume

Your top genre is Singer-songwriter which appears in 28% of your top tracks

You’re all over the place. In the good way.
One of the new streaming habits we’re measuring is listeners’ music Diversity. As one component of Diversity, we look at genre. 28% of your favorite artists are within your most-listened to genre. Did you know there are over 1,500 genres available on Spotify? We might call users like you Eclectics—bouncing around from genre to genre, open to hearing anything

You Are What You Stream Here’s what we’re starting to see based on your listening history:

Turnt : When you’re streaming, chances are you’re dancing. A 60% chance, to be precise, based off of your recent plays. Now, what you do with those beats is on you. But we aren’t judging.
You Stream Like a Partier : You. Like. To Party. (Or at least you like party playlists.)

I do tend to use Spotify a lot on house parties and sometimes on my bars if there's no dj around so I guess that kind of skews the stats.

How/where did you get that stats summary?

spotify.me

Ty Moka.

"Don't Go Where I Can't Find You" by Eraldo Bernocci is my most played track...huh?! Then, I realise... it's an album by Bernocci (who I've never heard of), Harold Budd and Robin Guthrie. And sometimes when I climb into bed I just say "Alexa*, play some Harold Budd off Spotify**", and this must be the thing it shuffles first every night. (* - Amazon Echo was a gift, I would never have bought one; ** - "off Spotify" cause Amazon's selection is poor).

"YOU ARE HIGH ENERGY! We can’t seem to find any chill music in your recent streaming history. What’s it like living life at a 10?"

Er, apart from all the soft-pedal piano ambience I fall asleep to every night that now dominates my stats?

Wait, holy shit, now that I've looked up "escape room" music, it seems like that's exactly what I was thinking about upthread!? Feel like
https://media0dk-a.akamaihd.net/42/52/b98dc98381702043ec57a0797e2dd505.jpg

Your Top Artist
Parliament

Your Top Track
Don't Leave Me This Way

Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
Don't Leave Me This Way

Here’s When You Listen
Based on your most recent 202 streams since June 11
1:00am

Most active hour
(Europe/London)
1,010min

64% of your tracks are energetic
Pump up the volume

Your average beats per minute is
122
Toe tapping tunes

Overall,your tracks are negative
Singing the Blues

*Energy is based on the dynamic range, perceived loudness, timbre, onset rate, and general entropy of a track
Your top genre is Alternative Rock which appears in 28% of your top tracks.
alternative rock
28%
funk rock
22%
space rock
20%
alternative metal
18%
post-doom metal
18%
industrial rock
18%

You’re all over the place. In the good way.

You Are What You Stream
Here’s what we’re starting to see based on your listening history.

All the Way Up

YOU ARE HIGH ENERGY! We can’t seem to find any chill music in your recent streaming history. What’s it like living life at a 10?

Insight Image
Keeping it 100.

Based on your most recently played tracks, we found that your average track tempo has a BPM of 23. Are you at a house party, doing HIIT, or both?!

i stream "like a parent"

busted

Digging some of the other genres I got in addition to Escape Room.

Escape Room 26%
Chamber Psych 24%
Fluxwork 22%

Now headed over to Every Noise at Once to see if I can figure out what they mean and where they overlap.

like, Chamber Psych includes Wooden Shjips, The Fall, Jakko Eino Kalevi, and Daphne & Celeste. okay, cool.

also, I'm not complaining or being critical of these invented genres. I wish there was something like the Neighbors thing on Last.fm so I could see what other people who are listening to M.E.S.H. and Uffie are checking out since this is what works best for me when it comes to music discovery.

RIYL is basically why i scan the genre threads so hard

What the hell kind of genre is PREVERB?

It said I listen to "18% Trap Music". AI still has a long way to go :-(

Premature reverb

Mine told me I was very diverse, and then gave me a playlist almost entirely of dub. It was very GOOD dub, though.

Glenn question: Do the algorithms go by artist or break things down to the individual track level? If you play a lot of wonderful single tracks from otherwise dud albums, will you keep getting recs based on those artists?

Actually, just tested that last question by generating a 'Create Similar Playlist' from a playlist of great songs from otherwise mediocre albums, and got a playlist of almost entirely mediocre songs.

oh that rating songs thing is addictive as hell

RIYL is basically why i scan the genre threads so hard

― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses),

I don't have spotify but I had hopes this might have been RHYL music, the woman in greggs gets a lot of her records there

We do a wide variety of track-based and artist-based recommendations. It's basically a tradeoff: the more you aggregate, the less precise your data becomes but the more accurate. Discover Weekly is very track-centric, but has artist-level filtering to get mostly artists you don't know. Daily Mix and Release Radar are very artist-centric, but then also have very particular track filtering and ordering rules. "Related Artists" and most of the other stuff on the Discover page are artist-centric. "Create Similar Playlist" is actually track-based, but track- and artist-based results are often very similar unless you intentionally try to make them different.

I've done some experiments where I pick two fairly different songs by a single artist and try to find the music that is most distinctively popular among just fans of each song, but mostly what I find is that listening patterns don't actually break that way. Most people who listen to electric Dylan also listen to acoustic Dylan. Most people who listen to Pat Benatar or Cyndi Lauper's post-pop work also listen to their popular records. Most people still listening to early Ulver records are also listening to the later Ulver records.

So you think you're listening to only the "good" songs from bad albums, but in fact most people who like those songs probably actually like the rest of those albums. "Good" is, statistically speaking, your own solipsism showing.

Your Top Artist: Markus Guentner - Express Yourself

Your Top Track
School Of Fish - Pete Namlook

Then it basically goes on to say I listen to nothing but death metal when BBQing, which is... not entirely untrue.