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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/22/15854852/immigrants-health-care-senate-obamacare

The Senate’s healthcare bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act — a new version of which was released Thursday, in an attempt to assuage some Republican members’ concerns — would probably make health insurance unaffordable for many Americans if it became law. But for some legal immigrants, it would make health insurance impossible to buy, period.

The Senate bill targets certain legal immigrants (including work and student visa holders, and people currently applying for green cards) who aren’t eligible for most public benefits programs but who are included in the Affordable Care Act. Like its counterpart in the House, the American Health Care Act, the Senate bill keeps those immigrants from being able to get tax subsidies to offset the cost of purchasing insurance.

But it goes even further than the House bill, preventing them from being able to buy insurance on state Obamacare exchanges entirely. (Senate Republicans made some substantial changes to the bill before rereleasing it on Thursday, but they didn’t walk back the restrictions on immigrant eligibility.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

The bill also requires all legal immigrants to regularly expose themselves to communicable diseases and toxic substances and to engage in high-risk endeavors such as hang gliding or stunt driving at least once a month.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

Btw, how bad a sign was it for this bill that two senators came out as opposing it in the first few hours? They are ready for this to stop.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

ICYMI

Hmmm... uhh... so here's Paul Begala, top Clinton ally, saying Trump should consider bombing Russia. https://t.co/2tW1gI0Uxh pic.twitter.com/wo9BmJPNDb

— Andrew Kirell (@AndrewKirell) July 13, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

i was watching that he wasnt talking about actual explosives

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

how does one metaphorically "blow up the KGB, GSU, or GRU"? Glitter isn't really the USG's thing.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

Begala is an idiot

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

Fred B, I don't know what makes you so confident this bill is dead. It sounds like Heller is already try to wriggle his way towards Yes. how is this not the exact same movie we saw in the House? at this point if I had to bet my life one way or the other (and ultimately it might be my life on the line, funny that) I'd bet they get it passed. I'd say I'm around 60-65% for pass.

evol j, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure what the hell he meant but surely he is not talking about literally blowing up a building in Moscow

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

the speed with which collins and paul confirmed they are still no's doesn't seem indicative on anything to me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

lmao

...🤔 pic.twitter.com/Qk9WokRKa9

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) July 13, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

OMFG, this shit is just unreal anymore.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

Portman is a "no"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

he just issued this less than an hour ago:

"I’ll review the text of this new legislation just like I did the last version, and I will review the analysis from the Congressional Budget Office when it becomes available on Monday."

how is he already a firm No?

evol j, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

the future of the left

Mark Zuckerberg's tour of the US is being orchestrated by veterans of the Obama admin & Clinton campaign https://t.co/AMjmkmDXJL
— Reid J. Epstein (@reidepstein) July 12, 2017

― Karl Malone, Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:36 AM (one hour ago)

He would be tied for 4th in shortest presidents if he ran and won...
But judging from my IRL encounter with him, I think his claim of 5'7" is pretty generous.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

WaPo:

Portman, who came out against the original draft of the bill, also said he was opposed to taking a vote at this point. “I’m in the same position I’ve been in, looking at the language and looking forward to the analysis,” he said.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

too bad Rubio already took Little as a pejorative nickname.

xpost

evol j, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

Tiny Mark Zuckerberg?

evol j, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

That's three.

evol j, of course, I'm just speaking out of my ass, I can't really know what these idiots will do. But Heller stood on stage with Sandoval and said he would do what's best for Nevada, and McConnell put absolutely nothing in there that made it better for Nevada, so as Sandoval is saying he is concerned, it is pretty likely Heller will vote no. The main difference between now and in the house was that people in the house could vote without a cbo-score, and with the idea that the senate would fix it. This time there's nothing to hide behind.

Though McConnell reportedly tried to say that the medicaid cuts would never come into effect anyway.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

considering it would be pretty generous to list me at 5'7" too this is the first thing that's made me like Tiny Mark.

evol j, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

this bill is a moving target and there's weeks to go so it's definitely premature to say anything is "dead" until McConnell drops it entirely from the legislative schedule.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

But judging from my IRL encounter with him, I think his claim of 5'7" is pretty generous.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:18 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Humblebrag! Now that's something you'd never hear from a Trump, sr or jr :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

Per @maggieNYT pool note, WH omitted this key part of Don Jr comments from Trump: "In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point" pic.twitter.com/Dgw8MALfCp

— Steve Kopack (@SteveKopack) July 13, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

this bill is a moving target and there's weeks to go so it's definitely premature to say anything is "dead" until McConnell drops it entirely from the legislative schedule.

― Οὖτις, 13. juli 2017 22:22 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sure. But at some point it's going to be pretty obvious that they can't do it, and then they will stop running their heads against the same wall.

Not saying that is necessarily now. But this draft is such a weak one, and was shut down so quickly, that it sure looks as if they can't get it done.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

ha WaPo's put their whip count up and now the "no"s are back to 2, with 6 "having concerns" so maybe they were a bit overzealous in interpreting Portman's statement

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

they will stop running their heads against the same wall

when has the GOP ever done this

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

maybe it was mentioned by norquist at some point

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

i'm skeptical

super weird Trump answer here pic.twitter.com/Gfu0R8OXCO

— slackbot (@pareene) July 13, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

Tiny Mark Zuckerberg?

http://i.imgur.com/B9jqPYq.jpg

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

trump's personal lawyer for russia stuff is a pretty cool guy

https://www.propublica.org/article/marc-kasowitz-trump-lawyer-threat-emails-maddow

goole, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

lol "Have you heard from Marc Kasowitz, or do you have any information about his firm? Contact Justin at jus✧✧✧@propubl✧✧✧.o✧✧ or via Signal at 774-826-6240."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

this doesnt do much to dispel that article from earlier in the week about how he cant get a security clearance bc hes a drunk asshole

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

mini mark zuckerberg is obv the correct answer here folks

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

as others have mentioned, it's bizarre to think that kushner is going to work today with his security clearances and insider position still intact.

what can be done in the short-term? obviously the republicans will do nothing. the democrats seem to be content to let the mueller, senate, and house investigations run their course, which will of course take ages. meanwhile, there is proof that kushner is full of shit. am i naive to wish that democrats would demand, at a minimum, that he gtfo the white house? are they doing that and i'm not just not seeing it anywhere? is dem opposition pointless (ie does it take a mob of people outside the WH with pitchforks to scare them into doing something)? did they just assume kushner would resign in shame but forgot that no one involved in this story has any shame?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

as others have mentioned, it's bizarre to think that kushner is going to work today with his security clearances and insider position still intact.

this is exactly why there should be rules against nepotism in government

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

am i naive to wish that democrats would demand, at a minimum, that he gtfo the white house?

lol if there's one thing Trump will do it's cave to the demands of a bunch of powerless Democrats

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

this is exactly why there should be rules against nepotism in government

there are

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

they are being flauted

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

flouted even

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

i'm trying to imagine a hypothetical scenario that would lead to his immediate ouster. if kushner just straight up murdered someone on live television, then...would he be arrested? or would everyone just add it to the pile for mueller to investigate and patiently wait it out?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

someone is playing a flute at the rules

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

xp: depends, is this hypothetical murder victim black?

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

am i naive to wish that democrats would demand, at a minimum, that he gtfo the white house?

lol if there's one thing Trump will do it's cave to the demands of a bunch of powerless Democrats

sure, but...i mean shouldn't they at least put on the table the very obvious thing, that kushner should gtfo, just so that maybe the people they ask to vote for them every 2 or 6 years will realize that they're on the same side?

sorry, ridiculous question, they should continue to not say much

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

xp: depends, is this hypothetical murder victim black?

just for fun let's assume the victim is a straight christian white guy with 3 kids

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

they are being flauted

this is what happens when you get a bunch of lyres in the white house

not that we should stop harping on about it tho

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

If I married Jared, maybe he wouldn't work at the White House anymore.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

alfred we need you to be a patriot, take one for the team

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

Bottomz 4 Jared

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link


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