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Having thought a bit more about this, I reckon my first "proper" SF novels were by Douglas Hill: http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/hill_douglas
And I have remember reading the fairly feeble Anne McAffery 'Dinosaur Planet' novels at a young age.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

Another nod to Douglas Hill here - no idea which came first but my main memories are of his Last Legionary series, something called Derai which I would have sworn was part of the same series but in fact is part of an entirely different (33 book long!) one by EC Tubb, and Aldiss' Penguin SF omnibi. Also Han Solo and the Lost Legacy.

Someone at school had a copy of Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 ad, Foss style book covers reprinted in large book format with ship schemata & accompanying fictional text totally unrelated to the original books. I lusted after it. Finally got a copy in my 30s, lol.

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 14 July 2017 08:19 (six years ago) link

which I would have sworn was part of the same series

Possibly because both books involve the protagonist entering a galactic ultimate fighting contest.

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 14 July 2017 08:45 (six years ago) link

Is that Spacecraft one a guide to like 5 different alien races' ships, plus a few mysterious hulks found drifting in space?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 14 July 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

That's the one. One of the hulks later inspired (was flat out copied by) by Turner prize nominee Glenn Brown. Another of his copies, of a Chris Foss, went at auction for $5.7 million.

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

( http://glenn-brown.co.uk/artworks/55/#selected_mediums=13 )

koogs, Friday, 14 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

oh, he's done a few

http://glenn-brown.co.uk/exhibitions/44/works/artworks51/

koogs, Friday, 14 July 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

i saw the one from the spaceships 2000-2100 book in the Turner prize exhibition. What looked great on a paperback looked really lacking in detail & flat when scaled up to a giant canvas.

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 14 July 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

I've been trying to work out what that book was since the early 1990s! Thank you!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link

what was the first sci-fi people can remember being exposed to?

Probably an original-run episode of The Outer Limits. In book form, Have Space Suit, Will Travel or some other Heinlein juvenile from the school library. SF was very much in the air during the Apollo years. Around 1971 the Doubleday Science Fiction Book Club lured me in with Frank Frazetta artwork; I remember staying up very late reading this twofer:

http://www.erbzine.com/mag4/gmwmffh4.jpg

After I'd signed my life away to the SFBC, a lot of reprints and anthologies of Golden Age SF turned up in the mail, as well as the big names of the 70s.

Brad C., Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

what was the first sci-fi people can remember being exposed to?

James Blish's Star Trek novelisations, sadly.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 July 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

Actually fuck that, they were great

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 July 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

The first SF book I can remember really enjoying was Grinny by Nicholas Fisk:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2013/oct/25/nicholas-fisk-odourless-great-aunt-emma

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

I've been trying to work out what that book was since the early 1990s! Thank you!

are you going to get a copy? nothing wrong with doing that as an adult. nothing at all.

The XX pants (ledge), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

Oo, I had Peter Davison's Book of Alien Planets

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 July 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

And yes, i will be buying the spaceships book!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 July 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

I guess this counts? It's a picture book about a cat that gets sucked into a video game and everything goes a bit Tron, except with dogs and cats. Apart from the pictures, it's just blank lined pages for you to write the story in.

https://d3525k1ryd2155.cloudfront.net/h/947/746/390746947.0.x.jpghttps://d3525k1ryd2155.cloudfront.net/h/947/746/390746947.1.x.jpg

Outside of that my first apart from the usual Adams/Pratchett were probably the equally usual fantasy-scifi-comedy books that were popular at the time: Craig Shaw Gardner, Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat, Red Dwarf novels, Robert Rankin, Paranoia ERPG manuals. Also think I read the (non-PKD) novelisation of Total Recall by Piers Anthony (!).

https://clutterreport.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/total-recall.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 15 July 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

Actually quite recent. Read a bunch of stories straddling horror, fantasy and science fiction in the mid-00s by Hodgson and Lovecraft. Then I Am Legend by Matheson a bit after that, which is far more SF than horror in my view.
First proper science fiction I've read was probably Moorcock's Behold The Man in 2013.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 July 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

"what was the first sci-fi people can remember being exposed to?"

http://images.gr-assets.com/books/1327271903l/1697749.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3171/2614343341_5f9f4f0db9.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 16 July 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

and then probably the lotus caves by JC after i read the two above.

scott seward, Sunday, 16 July 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

those were my era-appropriate covers...

scott seward, Sunday, 16 July 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link

Ooh, yeah, came to those via the unfinished BBC series: they never got to book 3

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 16 July 2017 05:57 (six years ago) link

I'm pretty sure my first intro to sf was the Tom Swift Jr. series of books by Victor Appleton II.

o. nate, Monday, 17 July 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

This is kind of an interesting question

Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 July 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link

someone find the good bits in this lot and let us know, thanks

https://archive.org/details/galaxymagazine

koogs, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 08:35 (six years ago) link

Wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't stay there long, other similar things have been removed before.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

omg

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

lol so many Willy Ley lead stories, don't think I've ever read a word of his stuff

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

man I wish I wasn't at work I'd love to dig into some of those Damon Knight and William Tenn stories I've never gotten ahold of

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

reading Breaking Point by C.J. Box and it's even better than the C.J. Box book I just read. And that one was really good. Evil E.P.A. agents! Boooooooo!

also one of the grossest things i've read in a while was a scene - i'm gonna tell you the scene because you will never read this book - where this guy is stumbling through the forest with his hands tied and its night and he's dying of dehydration and he stumbles upon what he thinks is a small stream and starts drinking from it and it turns out its the inside of a huge mule deer carcass and he had been drinking rotten blood. EWWWWW!!! stephen king must have read that and smacked his forehead and said why didn't I think of that!?

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

oh shit meant that for general reading thread. ignore.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

giant mule deer carcasses that can be mistaken for streams, you say? not for this thread, you say?

Am currently reading and enjoying (tho' not as much as I enjoyed The Alteration) Pavane by Keith Roberts. Knew almost nothing about Roberts before finding these gems published on David Langford's Ansible website shortly after Roberts' death:

Mike Moorcock: 'Never knew a bloke so determined to destroy himself. I expected this earlier, frankly. I think it's a mercy someone that miserable is dead. Put that in your newspaper, Mr Langford!' • Brian Aldiss: 'There was a time when Roberts' remarkable talent showed to best effect – in the days when he wrote Pavane and "Weihnachtsabend", a brilliant piece of work. Unfortunately, he became rather proud and quarrelsome. Literary agents and publishers (never mind his friends) did not care to deal with him. This is not the time to offer chapter and verse.... RIP.' • Malcolm Edwards has just reissued Pavane: 'With an irony somehow totally appropriate to Keith's life a finished copy arrived on my desk the morning I heard of his death. Speaking about Pavane to colleagues I said something to the effect that it was one of the finest sf novels ever written, by a man who at his best was a brilliant writer, but sadly also the most difficult human being I've ever had to work with.'

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

Is it me or is it remarkable that this blish story ("this earth of ours") from 1959 mentions "lysergic acid grenades"? Who was hip to LSD back then?

oddly, I just came across a reference to lysergic acid being used to forcibly induce insanity on a subject in Kornbluth's "MS Found in a Chinese Fortune Cookie" (a p funny meta/recursive sf story about writers) which is from even earlier: 1957.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

Recently seen someone really praising Keith Roberts and I think they mentioned how he rubbed people the wrong way. Wish I could remember who.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 24 July 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

You mean besides two posts up? I've seen Christopher Priest say the same thing and I imagine many others must have chimed in as well

Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

Kind of amazed how many erotic horror anthologies there was in the 90s. A lot of them had cover art by Mel Odom. There was 13 volumes in the Hot Blood series! But I've read a few of the stories and those selections weren't even supposed to be erotic. Anyone expecting a wank from Ramsey Campbell's "Again" will be dismayed.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link

Re that Galaxy collection:

> Wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't stay there long, other similar things have been removed before.

"Note: The novelette "Horse Trader" by Poul Anderson has been removed from this online copy at the request of the estate of Poul Anderson."

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

and a couple of hours later there's been a massive take down of issues. from nearly complete runs of the first 5 or 6 years to about a third of that...

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

i started on a list of stories but it doesn't seem worth finishing that now.

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

<3 Sheckley

yeah! don't think I'd seen a pic of him before

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

whoah!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link

Niven looks like a combo of Eric Bloom and Jeff Lynne

or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

Now if only there existed a picture of Horace Gold's poker group.


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