Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

oh, and are we now to believe that Diane is in cahoots with bad cooper? and so was her reaction to him at the prison a charade?

― akm, Monday, July 17, 2017 5:58 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i sorta feel like gordon, albert, and tammy don't have all the information here

it looked like she was down there talking about the mr jackpots day, pointing around the casino etc xp

I'm sure in the grand scheme of things this episode is not much different from most of the others, but it seemed a lot more pulpy and the dialogue more ham-fisted (on purpose) for large stretches.

Sizemore's extended riff on Dougie ending with him making, for absolute sure, that they know they "have an enemy in Douglas Jones" was leaving me guessing about which party thought the other one was dumber

AA, that'd make sense, it'd be big news but she would know the brothers are pissed

Brad otm about the Diane situation. We're only getting bits and pieces of the last couple decades. We know she's been in contact with him at some point, but whether it was continuing to work together until she skipped out because he's evil, or if he's somehow blackmailing her with the promise the real Dale is out there, it's unclear

The other possibility, that she's still willingly working for him, seems really unlikely giving her visceral reaction back at the prison

Is Janey-E wearing the same thing every day? I feel like another shoe will drop w/ that character (Naomi has been fantastic).

Sizemore doing Ed Sullivan with the hand gestures and hairstyle?

before bed i just want to state the obvious about bad coop, which is that the two photos of him that we've seen (one stood in the nyc glass box room, one stood outside the big-arse mansion in the tropics) point to him being the billionaire and/or working for a billionaire

nm about Janey-E's outfits, not sure why I thought that.

i paused and tried to see who bad cooper was talking to by the big glass box in the photo, but i couldn't tell who it was. it looked like a bald (?) guy with glasses (?) in a trenchcoat (?) in the foreground and someone else behind him

It looked like either Tobias Funke or a Doppelfunke.

another brilliant Catherine disguise

Whoever it was, he was definitely wearing jorts.

I've gotta say, if he's an actual criminal billionaire, he is living a lot dirtier than any other billionaire

He doesn't have to be an actual billionaire, that's just something the NY kid heard secondhand. Seems to me you could afford the same setup with drug lord money.

seems possible

we still have no idea what the Philip Jeffries connection is to any of the South American shenanigans, other than the fact it's unlikely he'll have any screen time

rather, we don't know anything about how that'll play out other than Bowie likely not showing up

It was implied during Dooper's conversation with him that it may not have been the real Phillip Jeffries, for whatever that's worth.

The supposed story is the bad Cooper was "working undercover" with Jeffries, but whether that's in any way true is yet to be seen. If Jeffries didn't go rogue, then maybe Mr. C snuffed him years ago. I'm wondering if the bullshit about working undercover was a way he lured Diane into things, only for her to realize too late that it wasn't real.

When Evil Cooper thinks he's speaking to Jeffries their conversation goes something like:
NOT JEFFRIES: I missed you in New York, you're still in South Dakota?
EC: Yes, and you're still nowhere, is that correct?

"nowehere" could mean a lot of things up to and including not resembling Bowie anymore. The New York things seems to confirm EC is involved w/ the glass box and the Experiment might be the thing on the playing card that he says he's after.

I'm reasonably sure that was the real Jeffries right up until David Bowie died, then they threw in the line hinting that it might be an imposter and made him/not him more of a phantom presence. How they'll resolve it I've no idea, though.

We still don't know who Linda is, do we?

We know she is a wounded veteran who just finally got her wheelchair, but she still hasn't appeared onscreen.

A month ago I'd have been like "that's a Linda, not necessarily the Linda", but that sort of wrongfooting the audience isn't really happening, perhaps surprisingly (still think the Diane thing might be an exception)

there was some good stuff in this episode but it was the first time an episode felt like it was treading water imo - explicitly connecting a few dots, reiterating certain character beats/traits, but not much else

Here's something I could be completely wrong about: the actor Scott Coffey who was in Mulholland Dr and Inland Empire as the voice of one of the rabbits is in the announced cast list but hasn't appeared yet. The voice Cooper's talking to in the motel room sorta sounds like his in the scene in IE where the audio gets a little distorted and he says "It was the man in the green coat..." (I've seen IE 4 times and just rewatched it earlier this year lol). Whoever or whatever Jeffries is now, that guy could be portraying him/it.

Have any voices been credited so far (arm, not-foot, "hello Johnny, how are you today)?

i paused and tried to see who bad cooper was talking to by the big glass box in the photo, but i couldn't tell who it was. it looked like a bald (?) guy with glasses (?) in a trenchcoat (?) in the foreground and someone else behind him

moby

I thought he looked a little bigger than Moby, but then I think Moby was weirdly in the cast list and not just in the usual musicians' credits so maybe.

Twin peaks but moby instead of coffee

TP fans: a character impregnating someone in a coma is a step too far even for this show
Also TP fans: lol dougie fuckin

Have any voices been credited so far (arm, not-foot, "hello Johnny, how are you today)?

― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, July 17, 2017 10:27 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know how I forgot that nightmarish teddy bear robot. I think overexposure to that thing would be enough to keep anyone in a sustained state of Johhny Horne-dom.

The fly swatting scene was a master class in telegraphing a punchline and then dragging it out to a ridiculous length before finally delivering.

I read on the twin peaks wiki that Lynch actually voices jerry's foot!

There's something about Richard's character that's been bothering me (beyond the obvious). Assuming this theory about his being Cooper's illegitimate son pans out, I wonder if his more extreme behavior only started to manifest recently, say around the time the good Dale left the Lodge? Because I find it hard to believe that he could've been operating at such a level of overt psychopathy for long without being dead or in jail. Or maybe it is just the drugs making everyone nuts.

I mean, like, even Leo Johnson was able to avoid behaving like a complete maniac when among the general public.

He wasn't rich

yeah young scion of a rich white family w corrupt cops on the payroll buys a lot of leeway

his grandma seemed to know what he wanted immediately so he apparently has some sort of reputation as an asshole

How quickly we forget Augustus and Ruth Johnson of the Johnson Tuna dynasty, who summered in Twin Peaks with their wayward son Leonard and perished under mysterious circumstances.

i wonder how close jerry is to jack rabbit's palace?

Yeah, no doubt Richard's been a d-bag for a while but I have a hard time believing he could even set foot in public if his average week includes the public molestation and casual slaughter of the town's residents.

I feel like Cole seeing Laura was foreshadowing his death :/

That's certainly what I thought was happening for a moment until his vision cleared.

Oh man if mr c murders gordon

stop fucking with my emotions, wins!

dynamicinterface, that occurred to me too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE86e3WXoAEn9Tn.jpg:large

the repetition of "douglas" made me think of lynch's speech at the premiere in may

“I like trees and I love wood. I like to cut wood. Tonight, we’re going to a place where the trees are primarily Douglas firs.

Douglas firs are a beautiful tree and if we’re very quiet, we can hear the wind rustling the needles as we move through the forest, getting closer and closer. And now, we’re here.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the world of Twin Peaks!”

My take on Richard is that he was always a bad seed, but the Balthazar Getty super drugs turned him into a rampaging psycho.

That is probably an accurate take.