I've gotta say, if he's an actual criminal billionaire, he is living a lot dirtier than any other billionaire
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
He doesn't have to be an actual billionaire, that's just something the NY kid heard secondhand. Seems to me you could afford the same setup with drug lord money.
― Chris L, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link
seems possible
we still have no idea what the Philip Jeffries connection is to any of the South American shenanigans, other than the fact it's unlikely he'll have any screen time
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link
rather, we don't know anything about how that'll play out other than Bowie likely not showing up
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
It was implied during Dooper's conversation with him that it may not have been the real Phillip Jeffries, for whatever that's worth.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
The supposed story is the bad Cooper was "working undercover" with Jeffries, but whether that's in any way true is yet to be seen. If Jeffries didn't go rogue, then maybe Mr. C snuffed him years ago. I'm wondering if the bullshit about working undercover was a way he lured Diane into things, only for her to realize too late that it wasn't real.
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
When Evil Cooper thinks he's speaking to Jeffries their conversation goes something like:NOT JEFFRIES: I missed you in New York, you're still in South Dakota?EC: Yes, and you're still nowhere, is that correct?
"nowehere" could mean a lot of things up to and including not resembling Bowie anymore. The New York things seems to confirm EC is involved w/ the glass box and the Experiment might be the thing on the playing card that he says he's after.
― Chris L, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
I'm reasonably sure that was the real Jeffries right up until David Bowie died, then they threw in the line hinting that it might be an imposter and made him/not him more of a phantom presence. How they'll resolve it I've no idea, though.
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
We still don't know who Linda is, do we?
We know she is a wounded veteran who just finally got her wheelchair, but she still hasn't appeared onscreen.
― cwkiii, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
A month ago I'd have been like "that's a Linda, not necessarily the Linda", but that sort of wrongfooting the audience isn't really happening, perhaps surprisingly (still think the Diane thing might be an exception)
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
there was some good stuff in this episode but it was the first time an episode felt like it was treading water imo - explicitly connecting a few dots, reiterating certain character beats/traits, but not much else
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
Here's something I could be completely wrong about: the actor Scott Coffey who was in Mulholland Dr and Inland Empire as the voice of one of the rabbits is in the announced cast list but hasn't appeared yet. The voice Cooper's talking to in the motel room sorta sounds like his in the scene in IE where the audio gets a little distorted and he says "It was the man in the green coat..." (I've seen IE 4 times and just rewatched it earlier this year lol). Whoever or whatever Jeffries is now, that guy could be portraying him/it.
― Chris L, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
Have any voices been credited so far (arm, not-foot, "hello Johnny, how are you today)?
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
i paused and tried to see who bad cooper was talking to by the big glass box in the photo, but i couldn't tell who it was. it looked like a bald (?) guy with glasses (?) in a trenchcoat (?) in the foreground and someone else behind him
moby
― Karl Malone, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
I thought he looked a little bigger than Moby, but then I think Moby was weirdly in the cast list and not just in the usual musicians' credits so maybe.
― Chris L, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
Twin peaks but moby instead of coffee
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
TP fans: a character impregnating someone in a coma is a step too far even for this showAlso TP fans: lol dougie fuckin
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
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I don't know how I forgot that nightmarish teddy bear robot. I think overexposure to that thing would be enough to keep anyone in a sustained state of Johhny Horne-dom.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
The fly swatting scene was a master class in telegraphing a punchline and then dragging it out to a ridiculous length before finally delivering.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
I read on the twin peaks wiki that Lynch actually voices jerry's foot!
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
There's something about Richard's character that's been bothering me (beyond the obvious). Assuming this theory about his being Cooper's illegitimate son pans out, I wonder if his more extreme behavior only started to manifest recently, say around the time the good Dale left the Lodge? Because I find it hard to believe that he could've been operating at such a level of overt psychopathy for long without being dead or in jail. Or maybe it is just the drugs making everyone nuts.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
I mean, like, even Leo Johnson was able to avoid behaving like a complete maniac when among the general public.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
He wasn't rich
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
yeah young scion of a rich white family w corrupt cops on the payroll buys a lot of leeway
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
his grandma seemed to know what he wanted immediately so he apparently has some sort of reputation as an asshole
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
How quickly we forget Augustus and Ruth Johnson of the Johnson Tuna dynasty, who summered in Twin Peaks with their wayward son Leonard and perished under mysterious circumstances.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
i wonder how close jerry is to jack rabbit's palace?
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
Yeah, no doubt Richard's been a d-bag for a while but I have a hard time believing he could even set foot in public if his average week includes the public molestation and casual slaughter of the town's residents.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
I feel like Cole seeing Laura was foreshadowing his death :/
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
That's certainly what I thought was happening for a moment until his vision cleared.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
Oh man if mr c murders gordon
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
stop fucking with my emotions, wins!
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
dynamicinterface, that occurred to me too.
― sciatica, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE86e3WXoAEn9Tn.jpg:large
― na (NA), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
the repetition of "douglas" made me think of lynch's speech at the premiere in may
“I like trees and I love wood. I like to cut wood. Tonight, we’re going to a place where the trees are primarily Douglas firs.
Douglas firs are a beautiful tree and if we’re very quiet, we can hear the wind rustling the needles as we move through the forest, getting closer and closer. And now, we’re here.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the world of Twin Peaks!”
― maura, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
My take on Richard is that he was always a bad seed, but the Balthazar Getty super drugs turned him into a rampaging psycho.
― Moodles, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
That is probably an accurate take.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
paused and tried to see who bad cooper was talking to by the big glass box in the photo, but i couldn't tell who it was. it looked like a bald (?) guy with glasses (?) in a trenchcoat (?) in the foreground and someone else behind him
It looked like Dr Bunsen Honeydew.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
I don't buy that Red is manufacturing super drugs. Seems like Richard is just a psycho high on coke.
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
This episode felt like a regression. Agree that it was treading water and reiterating a lot of things we know. The Richard Horne stuff just makes me not to watch anymore. I actually appreciated the trailer scene, where his killing is done off camera and you are left to imagine. The scene with his grandmother just felt unnecessary and cruel/sadistic. Kind of felt it deserved a trigger warning for the language too.
― Michael F Gill, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
it def turned my wife off.
― akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
imo they cut whatever the drugs are supposed to be with garmonbozia
also:
pic.twitter.com/Fqpof2NSuw— david binch (@apepsibath) July 16, 2017
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
I thought this episode had lots of great stuff in it and I love the series but I totally understand that reaction to the Richard scene. Particularly with Johnny tied up, very brutal.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
unfortunately unrelated https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/16/poundland-delays-launch-of-twin-peaks-chocolate-bar-amid-legal-row
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
i wish there was a injunction against the breastaurant
― maura, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
Visceral, raging brutality is often present throughout Lynch's work. Why would this surprise anyone?
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
there's a difference between surprise and disgust
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
It was a tad fucked that Richard was strangling his grandmother's throat as she was giving him the combo for the safe. I suppose that's Lynch establishing he's full out psycho, but I dunno, felt forced?
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
(xpost) I get that. But you don't sit and watch a Lynch feature not expecting to be occasionally disgusted. Except for maybe "The Straight Story".
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
felt...forced
― sciatica, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link