otm. his vocal work on a thousand suns is gorgeous (that record is almost perfect imo)
you were not alone in that thought :
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=83175
and it is indeed a bloody wonderful album.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
bugger - expected the ilm link to have the name of the thread ..
i think i admit upthread that whiney's voice review got me to listen to that record
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
he even guested on...was it Young Buck's album? did a mean falsetto wail on the song he was on.
he was very gifted as a vocalist.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q
the chorus on this is so lovely
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
me too.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Turrican's post is spot on.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
RIP. immensely important band to me as a teenager.
― Mordy, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
also as was endlessly reiterated upthread, "faint" fucking slaps
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
yeah faint rules
i really liked the remix album they put out in 2002
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
yeah that was the one that caused me to go from disliking the band to "well, maybe they have some good ideas"
I remember hearing singles from Minutes to Midnight and 1000 Suns later on and thinking they were really quite good, though I imagine many of their fans must've felt let down. always meant to get those albums eventually....
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
Part of the genius of Linkin Park is that, through their accessibility, they ended up speaking to people who may have been put off by relatively less accessible Korn and Slipknot, and may even have acted as a gateway to those bands.
The slickness of their productions were derided by some, particularly by the "keep it real" brigade... but it's kinda like Def Leppard's Hysteria... the slickness is part of the point!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
They also, unusually for a metal band, had really great pop instincts and understood the craft of pop - look at their first two records, everything is short and snappy! One could say that Hybrid Theory was an incredibly calculated record... and of course it was! But those Michael Jackson blockbusters like Thriller were calculated in the same way, and the reason they work is because they knew what they were doing. If everyone could do it, everyone would be doing it.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
I remember Bennington getting a lot of stick from metal purists back in the day, but looking back what was he meant to do? Pretend he couldn't sing?
I also remember people saying it was all fake anger/fake depression etc. etc. and, well...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
Turrican otm
― Mordy, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
otm
― down that brown path (Spottie), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
I'm listening to Meteora now and you can pretty much hear the effort that went into its production - and I'd be willing to bet they threw out far more material than what features on the record, and the album is the absolute best of everything they could have come up with at the time.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
I've always liked the big Linkin Park singles; I've also always liked Chester's voice. RIP
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
Wait, what? Wow. I saw them perform once or twice, were always solid.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
I never had any time for LP either, but I saw Chester singing a version of Mountain Song (on Youtube) with the celeb covers band Camp Freddy and he sang it as perfectly as a shiny new penny, and it's not a very easy song, but he did it with pretty much every nuance laid out, and I realised that he probably had exceptional range and tonality. So I looked a couple of interviews and was heartened to see he was a genuinely nice man too. So sad.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
boy Faint is a great song.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
Seeing way too many people couch their posts or thoughts with "not that I care about their music anymore" or "before I knew what 'good music' was..." Linkin Park were good. There is no such thing as a guilty pleasure.
Petty squabbles over sad news...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
I cared about them when I was 12 and yes, I moved on to other stuff only to remember right now that they had some pretty good songs here and there.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
but yeah anyone taking this opportunity to remind the world they are above nu-metal can go to hell.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
yeah I mean the "I wasn't into their music" or "although I hated their music" lead-ins today are gross and unnecessary. Nobody cares if you did or didn't like their music. Do you have to add that stupid caveat to offer condolences? Are people that fragile that they have to make sure, that people are also clear that they don't like "weak-assed music" and aren't a "poser"?
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
especially considering how the music resonated with some people who suffered of depression and abuse...
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
i have just listened to 1000 sunssuch a wonderful album.i cried a lot.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
man I decided to listen to his bit on Slow Ya Roll again and man, the lyrics "this can't be life we're livin/cos I don't wanna live no more", eerie af. powerful vocal on the track tho
https://youtu.be/Dgn3hUwFVHM?t=2m5s
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
huh never knew they covered this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl0bSmoZynk
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
it's quite good!
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
I just had a guy come into the store and my coworker and I were talking about it and this guy hadn't heard. Reaction:
"WHAAAAAAT???!!! ...not that I cared AT ALL about Linkin Park's music................. you know what's interesting though?..." and then he went on this monologue about how he watched a 1000 suns documentary and was really into it and everything. Fuck off dude
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
a friend of one of my besties posted a snarky "ehh they sucked but I guess it's sad" post and my friend exploded on him cos he apparently has done nothing but "woe is me" post every day and did a GoFundMe recently for people to give him money so he can live in Germany full-time....
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
I always liked "Papercut"
Yeah, pretty much everyone OTM regarding people trying to score cool points right now. It's disgusting.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
Papercut bangs. Great album opener.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
Having said that, I haven't forgotten about flappy bird's comments when George Michael passed away, so...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
Think yeve done enough of what ye think of other people's wrong reactions now.
RIP. Great vocalist. Good at what he did, seemed a decent guy.
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
'Breaking the Habit' sounds so fucking good to me right now.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Nobody cares if you did or didn't like their music.
so people who are gushing about how much Linkin Park's music meant to them are equally in the wrong, do I have this right?
― tong poo (da ba dee) (crüt), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
guys
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
no, what I meant was "hey if you didn't like their music, fine, but why do you need to bring that up?" - should have just said "nobody cares if you didn't like their music"
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
i think its ok to express your honest reaction about their music lol
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
would argue its much better than fake performative grieving
this exact conversation happens on ilm every time a musician dies lol
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
fake performative grieving?
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
like nobody says you have to have an opinion at all, just sayin if you're going to share one, what is the benefit of saying "WELL Y'KNOW I DIDN'T *REALLY* LIKE DUDE'S MUSIC, but REST IN PEACE Chester" vs "Rest in peace, Chester"
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
and your point ?
gotta love the lol
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
so anyway....
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
― Neanderthal, Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:28 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
theres a total nostalgia buzz effect not so much on ilx per se but def in the wider social media world. i'd rather someone say, "you know I wasn't that big a fan of the group at the time, i was slightly too old to take it seriously but I did love 'faint' and i think their stuff has aged well" (fwiw this is me) than the aimless 'linkin park basically invented music for me' kind of shit that we know wasn't true ... i remember how "thoughtful ppl" at the time perceived this band, they were getting big when i was like 19-20 years old. It was seen as suburban trash culture by older ppl and theres a level of disingenuousness to ppl's performed fandom
it also just annoys me bc of the blatant hypocrisy of it w/r/t/ parallel artists today, like this whole tweet thread could as easily be about xxxtentacion but ppl bandwagon these kinds of things
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link
for 'social lift'