Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Bobby traversing the nightmare just outside of the diner is so far from anything I might have expected to see in this

That honestly might've been the most nightmarish sequence yet.

hell yeah, he's been a joy

he had so much material to work with in this most recent episode

also I'm still stuck on Bobby being Becky's dad! Bobby attempting to give his daughter support and trying to help her make good decisions only for her mom to get giddy and rush out the door as soon as she saw her current bad boy criminal boyfriend was frustrating. goddamn it Shelly, we're trying to be role models, here

if anything, that nightmare of a gun/car/puking kid scene was almost a respite from the domestic horror

Already rewatched and there's something to what Evan R says... there's a distinct change in Dougie's intonation when he says "good pie" and "friend" at the end, both are deeper, more resonant, his face is sadder and seems more comprehending... I'm not totally convinced but I don't want to dismiss the possibility either.

― sciatica, Monday, 24 July 2017 03:59 (eleven hours ago) Permalink

^ despite all this teasing i hold out no hope whatsoever for dale being dale again. if it happens it'll be a nice surprise.

― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 24 July 2017 04:00 (eleven hours ago) Permalink

I was surprised so few people interpreted the scene this way; maybe we've just been conditioned by 7 episodes to believe Cooper will never be back. But my reading of the scene was unambiguous: It gave him the comfortable, glamorous re-entry into the world he was denied the first time around. And if you watch him eat the cherry pie, faster and more purposefully than Dougie ever would, you can see that it mirrors the way Dale ate pie for the first time in the original series. There's an awakening there.

I'm sure he won't be 100% back to his old stuff, ready to pick up where he was and solve mysteries or whatever, but I think he'll have his personality in the next ep. And yeah (nano spoiler) that next episode title really says a lot.

i haven't had time to read much of this thread since the latest ep but the place where gordon and albert find ruth's body is definitely the convenience store from the episode 8 flashback right?

Agree w ppl about how big-hearted the vegas story in particular is (although it's had its share of senseless brutality, inc the pre-cuddly mitchums). The box/dream thing must be one of the strangest pieces of fan service ever.

This episode's been on my mind all day. This show is just outrageously great.

Xp to mh bobby's response to both that and the possibility that Becky was the victim of domestic abuse was heartbreaking

xp not sure, but it's definitely located at the coordinates on William Hastings' website

RE: the scene with Bobby investigating gunshots outside RR.

There's a strong sense that the town of Twin Peaks is breaking down. It could be driven by evil mystical forces or the superdrugs. I also take it as Lynch's commentary on the decay of civil life in the US.

Wasn't the convenience store located in New Mexico?

xxxxp

cherry piiiiiieee!

I really got the sense that the gunshots/honking tableau outside the diner had oblique but meaningful applications to the Becky/Bobby/Shelly domestic situation: anxiety about the influence of parents on their children's bad behavior (the unapologetic gunshooting kid matching his father's stance and mien), the terror and confusion of having a "sick" kid and not being able to help them.

Okay, I spoiled myself as much as I'm willing to and looked up the next episode's title. I naturally recognize the significance but I'm not sure that it indicates anything definitive about anything.

Those episode descriptions are as much "spoilers" as seeing that a poster has "it is happening again" written on it, and certainly much less so than the trailers I assume we all watched

You're supposed to look at them

I'm not able to pull up the site at work, is the next episode's teaser "Let's rock" as I just saw elsewhere?

Y

I have to assume that means that Vedder's finally showing up next week.

I predict it won't be the arm saying it but that it also won't be a clever switcheroo where like som me rando says it, it'll be someone connected to the lodge

I also have a feeling one of the final six pullquotes will be "fire walk with me"

Probably means Ed Sheeran is doing another prestige drama cameo.

ugh what if eddie vedder makes everyone listen to a full version of "last kiss"

There's a song by him that was apparently written for this and it's not good, maybe it'll work in context tho

Gordon's right arm shaking and his "Cat on a hot tin roof! It's never done that before!" has gotta mean something - and not coffee withdrawal

Left arms go numb a lot, but right arms shook in that one ep directed by Stephen Gylenhaal

among so many great moments let's not forget carl summoning the vw camper van with his whistle

There's a strong sense that the town of Twin Peaks is breaking down. It could be driven by evil mystical forces or the superdrugs. I also take it as Lynch's commentary on the decay of civil life in the US.

^^^this. The town seems to have become a *really* grim place.

was anyone else thrown by Lynch engaging in overt product placement for the first time in his career, that was really odd

great episode in general

Wait when?

*munches on raisin bran*

hmm what?

albert's samsung phone when he's photographing the body

I just hope that if/when Coop wakes up it is all triggered by some event in the netherworld or something. I just want to see more of that.

there have been some car moments that seemed slightly hokey with branding, but it could just be that they used cars.. which have branding

Norma's ringtone threw me. Felt like about the only thing that definitively grounded this in the present day.

There have been like a dozen different brands of phone/computer with their logos shown in close up tho - isn't product placement meant to guarantee exclusivity? Same with the cars, why pay all that money when rival brands are shown just as prominently. PS lynch hates product placement, it's one of those things like watching movies on your phone that he got really mad at once

the Viva Las Vegas sequence definitely looked/felt like a commercial

I'm really enjoying the way the show is gaining momentum as more and more pieces slide into place

do we have a good shot of the "coordinates" on the corpse's arm? what i could see looked more like pictographs or something than coordinates

The explication of TP mythos via Hawk's map was fascinating. Ancient references to fire that operates like modern day electricity! Black corn as an inversion of fertility! But also...you never thought to maybe pull that thing out and share what you knew at any point in the past 25+ years of inexplicable local activity, Hawk? Really?

xpost I assumed those were the coordinates on Hastings's website.

I'd bet the Bookhouse Boys knew about Hawk's map, but there's some ambiguity about whether Frank has been a member and would have known?

I was never really that into the owl cave type stuff in the old show, but hawk's map is pretty cool

it didn't look like numbers to me but i couldn't see it very well
apparently the awful viva los vegas cover was by shawn colvin

Don't know why everyone keeps expecting Coop to wake up. Wasn't it very strongly implied that bad Coop has to die (which it seems will probably occur after a confrontation in the woods with Bobby, Hawk, and Truman) before that can happen?

xpost loved Hawk's magical plot exposition map. The show is making so many things perfectly explicit so quickly. It's jarring, but I like it!

I died when Coop reached for the wrong champagne glass again after the brief moment of hope following the cherry pie bite

Xp the one armed man said "one of you must die" as like a general statement but also told coop to "wake up" so he must think it possible

half expected Belushi to say "wrong glass, sir"

guys I was referring to the very blatant Raisin Bran product placement, which is different in both nature and prominence to the randomly branded other things that appear in various shots like cars and phones.

rewatching that ending sequence in the restaurant, because i didn't pick up on dougie's apparent return to lucidity.

what is the song that the pianist plays? he switches into a very slow song and dougie immediately turns and looks and is very interested

it accompanies the hilariously over-sentimental visit from his old casino pal:

"i have a dog. i have a house! i have...my life back"

ie, it's brought into a static shot for no particular reason, directly held in front of the camera w logo/branding clearly visible, and then placed outside the shot. it was weird.

xps

hardest laugh this ep: "He's dead!"

what is the song that the pianist plays? he switches into a very slow song and dougie immediately turns and looks and is very interested

I couldn't pick this out (or identify the piano player) either but recognized the tune and couldn't place it. for a second I thought he was going to break into the Laura Palmer theme.