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Has Paul changed his mind? Or will he vote yes on straight repeal?

Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

It would be a real maverick move for mccains dying action to be to effectively murder tens of millions of people.

Treeship, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

That's what mavericks do right?

Treeship, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

I could be wrong but I highly doubt the straight repeal will work when the replace died. Straight repeal is even more obviously destructive.

Treeship, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Has Paul changed his mind? Or will he vote yes on straight repeal?

Paul will vote yes on straight repeal, but Collins, Capito and Murkowski (iirc) all said they would not, so that idea is also dead in the water.

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

only Ozymandias can save us now

Neanderthal, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

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I don't know what the hell McConnell is doing. If the wheels an old sick man into the senate to vote for a doomed bill that is polling in the twenties...

Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

they probably have a secret bill with free health care for all that will pass unanimously but will secretly have a provision that requires all people receiving the free health care to serve in the army for a year, regardless of age, and if the right % of conscripted don't die as predicted by the actuaries, the difference will be sacrificed to a lion

Neanderthal, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

I don't think that's going to happen. I think that McConnell's gamble is that by forcing people to commit to a vote, the "no" votes will subsequently be more subject to pressure because they'll get a lot of blowback from Donnie Two Scoops, Heritage Foundation, FreedomWorks et al, which will bring them back to the table down the road. None of the leadership guys are ready to throw in the towel - the House precedent is instructive here - they figure this is just another move in a long drawn-out process. Of course, when reconciliation expires they're really up shit creek because then their options narrow considerably. But you can tell McConnell, Cornyn etc are gambling on doing further arm-twisting *after* this upcoming vote essentially draws battle lines.

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

lol at "I don't think that's going to happen." after Neanderthal's scenario. good xpost.

anyway tho - having the vote could also blow up in mitch's face if a lot more No's than those decide to declare themselves - hey, we wanna be feted with kickbacks and pork too! - massively multiplying an already impossible horse-trading scene. but if the gambit works and somebody folds for fear of being made famous as The One Who Blew The Chance To Repeal Obamacare then this post will look pretty fucking stupid.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

(fear of being The One obviously tempered, based on your electorate, by fear of being Killer Of A Million Kids With Cancer, etc.)

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

Don't ever count McConnell out.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

I just want the damn vote to be over already.

nothing worse for a dude with OCD than to pore over hundreds of terrifying scenarios.

I suspect Shakey is otm

Neanderthal, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

xpost hope he fuckin falls in the shower

Neanderthal, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Lisa Murkowski still undecided on the motion to proceed.

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 24, 2017


Murkowski: "I do not" know what's after MTP.

Appropriate?

"I'm told we're going to be finding that out, which will be very important."

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 24, 2017


You don't know what's in the bill, right?

Murkowski: "That's correct, as far as I know at this time."

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 24, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

even Blobfish couldn't have foreseen McCain going awol

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

the wikler reporting is based on something a staffer told constituents

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

the GOP leadership no longer fears Trump -- it's afraid of the Kochs, donors, etc who have wanted this repeal for eight years.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

I almost feel like, at least Trump broke all the rules to get something for himself. McConnell is just breaking every norm and going further and further out on a limb in order to pay off his masters. At this point, it's almost pathetic.

Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

almost?

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

all i know is the gap between rich and poor is way too narrow in the united states. freedom can't fit through. it's time to repeal the abominable shackles of healthcare from the downtrodden and harness all the pent up liberty unleashed

#MRGA

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

Almostalmostalmost

Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

behold the fiscal conservatives, running government like a business :)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-gop-targets-non-partisan-cbo-for-staffing-and-funding-cuts

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 24 July 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

Susan Collins says she still doesn't know what's happening w health care, mentions she's heard there might even be a third version of BCRA

— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) July 24, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

“They ought to be aggregators,” he said. “We ought to take a score from Heritage, from AEI, from Brookings, from the Urban Institute and bring them together for a composite score that would represent a wide swath of their abilities. We think that’s a pragmatic way to rely on the private sector and let Congress rely on a score that’s accurate.”

lol "what this data needs is MORE garbage data!"

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

I find Trump's use of "beleaguered" as a pejorative really funny. First, big surprise, it suggests he doesn't understand what the word means. Sessions is beleaguered, it's true, almost entirely because of his nutcase president. It also reminds me of something an editor said to me 30 years ago when I handed in a John Candy story: "We may put this on the cover...'The beleaguered dad in Summer Rental'--that's the best you can do?"

clemenza, Monday, 24 July 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

Elsewhere

as Trump admin tries to pass agenda, Sarah Huckabee Sanders tells reporters on AF1 'Congress doesn't have best record’ on getting good deals

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 24, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

my daddy taught me that. so for now I am deferring to the king of bankruptcy to make good deals for the usa.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link

omg these poor boy scouts having to sit through a speech by a moron. I assume most of these kids know about the government than he does.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

know more. I suck.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

Trump now telling kids at the Boy Scouts Jamboree about “fake polls” and “fake news” and his “tremendous crowds”

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 24, 2017

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

sounds like a good civics lesson

global tetrahedron, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

kinda terrifying

Trump tells the Boy Scouts he's going to kill Obamacare; Boy Scouts respond with chants of "U-S-A! U-S-A!" pic.twitter.com/DQpFXJpGGF

— Dan Zak (@MrDanZak) July 24, 2017

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Trump on Price and health care vote: "He'd better get it. Otherwise I'll say, Tom, you're fired! He'd better get Sen Capito to vote for it."

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) July 24, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

Separately, this seems rather recursive

Senior White House official says Sessions-Trump may get worse because Trump watches TV coverage of him criticizing Sessions and gets madder.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) July 24, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

As for McCain

Most Rs do not think McCain is coming back tomorrow for health care vote, given his health and given how unpopular this bill is

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) July 24, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

Senators can vote by proxy, no?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

pretty exciting to live in an era where the president's television consumption has massive impact on his actions

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

only in committee

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

LBJ would watch all three networks' nightly news broadcasts simultaneously. But Trump is no LBJ.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

He's not even PB&J.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

"President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law this morning after reports he was dared not to do it by Walter Kronkite on the previous evening's newscast."

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

Reagan and his team lived on TV reactions.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

One person close to Trump said POTUS asked him about how firing Sessions “would play in the conservative media." https://t.co/Xak0lVbcAu

— Robert Costa (@costareports) July 24, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

From the linked story:

President Trump and his advisers are privately discussing the possibility of replacing Attorney General Jeff Sessions, and some confidants are floating prospects who could take his place were he to resign or be fired, according to people familiar with the talks.

Members of Trump’s circle, including White House officials, have increasingly raised the question among themselves in recent days as the president has continued to vent his frustration with the attorney general, the people said.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link

sweet. Jeff is bad, bad news, and his humiliation cannot come soon enough.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

idk that giuliani is any better

mookieproof, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

or TED FUCKIN CRUZ who is also mentioned as a possibility

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

Cruz or any other senator would look at what happened to Sessions over these past few months and go "Yeah, think I'll stick with my seat, thanks."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 July 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link


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