Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

because she has terrible judgment

Oh yeah, it didn't even occur to me that Red (almost certainly a Black Lodge proxy) coincidentally showed up just before the shot was fired.

From shelleys pov is there any indicator that red is obviously bad news aside from being played by Balthazar Getty?

not from our viewpoint, but presumably she's been around him a few more times than we have

Right, but presumably he's been the way he is when we've seen him with Shelly and not the way he was when we saw him with Richard

I think if there was a smiling machine gun dude at their first date she might be more wary

It's Balthazar Getty, shouldn't she know that dude's trouble?

xp It's Shelly, though... would she be?

"Oh yeah, it didn't even occur to me that Red (almost certainly a Black Lodge proxy)"

I dont' think he is.

I think its arguable that anyone involved with these weird drugs is a Black Lodge proxy.

plus the coin thing

which seemed very much like a Tremonds/MIKE kind of routine

Yeah being a magician is very very loaded in this show

Remember Jacoby's ball tricks in the pilot? HMMMMMMMM...

idk if ppl are still confused about the insurance thing but it seemed p clear that coop-dougie did uncover fraud and that mullins is in on it.

that didn't seem like the case to me. I dunno. I don't really care either.

The yelling woman in the car reminded me of the the woman yelling "Something's stung me real bad" after being accidentally shot through the wall in the Mulholland Dr hitmen scene.

I just keep thinking, lady, you're seriously burying the lede with all this dinner and uncle talk when the kid next to you is slumped down and looks like a zombie

that shot was so strange and unexpected at first I thought the kid was like materializing from the lodge dimension or something, the way he slid up from the seat and then lurched over her, so fucking creepy

also, the woman with her eye shot out in the bushes at the beginning - was that supposed to be the woman that got blown up in the trailer by Richard? or somebody else?

xxpost Ha ha, yeah. 'This is so annoying! I'm late and I need to get moving! Oh, and did I happen to mention the walking nightmare vomiting all over my floorboard? Say hi, Jimmy.'

xpost Yes, that was Miriam.

Wasn't the kid a girl?

And, of course, the kids discovering Miriam crawling out of the bushes reminded me of Dorothy Vallens dazed on the lawn in Blue Velvet, and Ronette Pulaski wandering down the tracks dazed and beaten in season 1, and David Lynch's story about his own childhood. Watching The Art Life documentary recently really rammed home how just how much his childhood and early adulthood colours his work.

that shot was so strange and unexpected at first I thought the kid was like materializing from the lodge dimension or something, the way he slid up from the seat and then lurched over her, so fucking creepy

Isn't that what happened? That's 100% what I thought happened, did it not?

I think she was lying on the floor in front of the seat

So many kids in this too - the three at the beginning this ep, the gun kid, the sick girl, sonny jim, the kid who got run over, 119 lady's son. The original had little Nicky & the tremond boy & that's it. Donnie from bv and the eraserhead baby are the only other examples I can think of from Lynch's career.

Oh and sailor & Lula's son I guess

Zombie girl was lying with her back and head on the seat, her feet on the floor, in shadow but still visible once you know to look.

Roberto could you explain the insurance thing in detail, step by step, for those of us who are slow.

So many kids in this too

yeah I thought I'd mentioned this earlier, the preponderance of kids as mute witnesses/victims, it's pretty striking

i think i saw in the credits that one of the baseball kids had the last name "frost," presumably they are related to mark frost

was anybody else thrown by the opening shot of the kids, with the camera following the ball? I didn't see that it was three kids playing pickle at first, thought kids were getting swapped out mid-shot somehow

i think i saw in the credits that one of the baseball kids had the last name "frost," presumably they are related to mark frost

― na (NA), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:25 (twelve minutes ago)

Mark Frost's son was the oldest of the kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faSGNtf45rg

preserved on youtube if anyone loves to relive trauma

haha, i like how that youtube still perfectly captures bobby's investigation face. time for bobby to investigate the scene. *bobby stares at stuff*

Can't believe people are theorizing, sometimes quipping, that Candie is Laura/a lodge spirit/on drugs/a spy/a robot/whatevs when she is that rare case of someone, be it on TV or irl, who engages with the world in a relatable and sustainable way D':

what is it we're not getting about insurance fraud?
the two obvious cases are paying out to cover fraudulent claims, and denying claims that are legitimate

Tony (Sizemore), when called out by Cooper ("he's lying") was talking about how they needed to pay out a couple claims -- presumably they were fake and he's getting a kickback. The second part was denying the claim that the Mitchum brothers had and claiming it was arson. Presumably Tony's criminal contacts (that Duncan guy who has ordered hits) have it out for the Mitchums and wanted it denied.

candie. candie?

http://i.imgur.com/rZKMxMN.png

CANDIE

i definitely agree that she is a 'sensitive' now that we've had cooper cocks head raptly to piano tone/candie cocks head raptly to piano tone

Candie's empathetic yeah but I don't feel she has any connection to lodge/etc. personally.

candie is the greatest character in television history so she need be nothing more or less than what she already is

agreed

cosign

so true. i've been getting all depressed thinking about how she's so great in this and how great it would be to see her in a major role in another lynch thing down the road and then realizing there probably won't be another lynch thing down the road.

this is a great interview btw, prob what wins was alluding to a few days ago

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/twin-peaks-amy-shiels-on-her-tragic-backstory-for-candie.html

Can't believe people are theorizing, sometimes quipping, that Candie is Laura/a lodge spirit/on drugs/a spy/a robot/whatevs when she is that rare case of someone, be it on TV or irl, who engages with the world in a relatable and sustainable way D':

I just said this like an hour ago: she is the Xander

who is the bez and who is the xander: movie dept

Wally is the Bez

realizing there probably won't be another lynch thing down the road.

:-/ it's true. but at least it feels like he's using this opportunity to basically do every last thing he wants to do. it really seems like he took full advantage of the creative freedom and 18 hours of time to just do EVERYTHING

that is an excellent interview

air conditioners!

it's also good to hear about Sizemore doing ok, I know he's had some rough times

ah jeez, I just read about his recent history, it's uh... nice he was reasonable to the TP cast