Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

also flopson is OTM, that's one of the things I really can't stand about CTH. prematurely dancing on the grave of John McCain the night the world finds out he has brain cancer - I found all that really distasteful and disgusting. i'm not a McCain fan, but this is absolutely par for the course for them - Will routinely says he hopes people get stomach cancer, get hit by a bus, etc etc etc... one tweet that REALLY rubbed me the wrong way was when he retweeted a pic of someone's gross bare feet up on an airplane armrest, and Will said "I'd rather be on United 93."

Menaker's tweet above is pretty bad, an example of "you just have to figure out who's good and who's bad, and if something bad happens to someone who's bad, that's good" politics that I think of these guys as mostly above?

I think it's clear that the kind of Leftist or Marxist thinking they traffic in is appealing in direct proportion to the kind of stark moral clarity it offers. (I think that clarity is illusory and possibly dangerous but that's not an argument i want to have on the internet today.) But that's the move, again and again: reframe "liberal" functional/technocratic positions in terms of morality, good vs evil, etc. The whole point of that kind of discourse is to offer an escape from that economic functionalism into a absolutist moral space that allows you to critique it.

This is probably idiosyncratic but the core distinction I'd make between liberalism and neo-liberalism is that the latter also works in moralist terms. The market is "good," or at least determines the good.

John McCain deserves a painful, miserable death. The willingness to traffic in saying that as public figures is a core Chapo appeal to me - no pretending that you can be a good person while doing horrible things out of some bullshit respect for American institutions.

The world needs more "Masters of War" and "Tramp The Dirt Down."

The financial-pain argument seems a little tenuous to me. I can't imagine she didn't get an uptick in donations from (rightly!) offended sympathizers to at the very least offset the added labor.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:23 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude you are the biggest captain save-a-chapo

Sadly, not even close.

I'm fine with stark moral clarity and calling bad people bad! What bugs me is the idea that an outcome is good if it makes a bad person suffer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPwuulUQpxw

I like Matt a lot of times but this is just indefensibly poisonous garbage. You'd think Dems voted for the GOP's bill if you were immersed in the CTH bubble.

No More Democrats

— Matt Christman (@cushbomb) July 25, 2017

For context, the previous Tweet:

People whose chief concern right now is the respectful treatment of those working to condemn millions to early death are not your allies

— Matt Christman (@cushbomb) July 25, 2017

It's sometimes seems funny to respond "FUCK YOU YOU LEPROUS SON OF A WHORE!" to twitter prolapse cases but I'm against slut-leper-shaming.

http://i.imgur.com/9wPpE2a.png

I like when Chapo clowns on people like this. The "Rebel Alliance"? What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Star Wars, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones ... so, the current people in government and politics right now who are supposedly the main force against Trump, and allies of the left, are a bunch of soft-handed, virginal, cosplaying dorks.

anyone who could get through either of the recent premium episodes (the tabletop ones) are greater Chapo stans than I

I like when Chapo clowns on people like this. The "Rebel Alliance"? What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Star Wars, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones ... so, the current people in government and politics right now who are supposedly the main force against Trump, and allies of the left, are a bunch of soft-handed, virginal, cosplaying dorks.

fixed

Seems like being "left" and "Democrat" involves a prerequisite to have your balls chopped off. No surprise there considering corporations control the Democratic party right now. And they really don't care if the Trumpers bash all your heads in for being liberal, or gay, or black. It achieves their goals, but in a roundabout way.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/16/1442401101730/05248533-d1d0-4bcd-bb39-01ab7c7eb672-bestSizeAvailable.jpeg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=1e802aad6a954f82d93ca2c2c0e7f939

I am certain all of the female Democrats were very surprised when they found out about this prereq.

guys, in the world of politics having a Star Wars quote in your bio constitutes being hip to pop culture. It's the left-wing version of quoting Princess Bride lines.

xp Replace it with a gender neutral idiom. Our language hasn't really updated to the progress made in the past few decades.

gtfo with any politics where your goal is to "have balls" or to avoid being a "soft virgin" or a "cuck" or whatever

the rose in that guy's bio is confusing to me

even if we do replace balls with a gender-neutral idiom we're still left with the rest of your dumb-as-fuck comment xxp

Dumb as fuck that corporations and banks are the primary funders of the Democratic party? Fact. That they have an agenda of their own, otherwise they wouldn't be funding it? Fact. That their agenda is not a good deal for us, because we have no say in it? Fact.

Why is that dumb, exactly? Why do so many people in the US consider what's good for them "dumb"? Or empowering themselves as "stupid"? I wonder where that comes from... hmmm...

The Star Wars thing shows that so many of us have been kept at the psychological age of children. People among them who've never faced any real hardship, have been cloistered in tiny little lives of farm-fed luxury, and now when a difficult battle is on us, of course they're scared as shit to do anything about it, and have no clue how to do it anyway.

You'll hear no complaint from me re: categorizing the Dems as inherently corporatist, but this notion that it ultimately serves their interests to see social liberalism clawed back is bizarre. xp

Social liberalism is a means to an end, and that same end can also be accomplished via Trumpers.

So what the hell do they care? See how they behave via their media outlets. They don't give a shit.

The Cthulhu RPG eps are extra disappointing because it could be really well done but that would start with any of the three players taking the game seriously

The Star Wars thing shows that so many of us have been kept at the psychological age of children. People among them who've never faced any real hardship, have been cloistered in tiny little lives of farm-fed luxury, and now when a difficult battle is on us, of course they're scared as shit to do anything about it, and have no clue how to do it anyway.

sure but Luke eventually worked it out

The Star Wars thing shows that so many of us have been kept at the psychological age of children

Going off on people for having "their balls chopped off" and being "virgins" shows that so many of us have been kept at the psychological age of early adolescents, who are way worse than children

OK, update it with your preferred idioms. The goal is to capture the concepts of strength, power, self-determination, and worldly experience in one phrase or word.

the force

afaict this is just a throwaway joke in the dude's personal Twitter bio, doesn't seem like something near worth getting worked up about.

That shit's all over the place. "MNRRR We're like Harry Potters gang of wizards going against VOLDEMORT!!!"

Holy fucking hell, no wonder Trump is steamrolling over his opposition, when it's people like this.

you're really confusing c_k

I'm a complex person

It's a big tent and it takes all kinds. I am not into "resistance" talk either, whether it's meant to refer to Star Wars or occupied France, and I don't use it. But the people who do use that language are busting their asses just the same as I am. If you feel like it's a waste of time to call legislators, protest in the street, run for office, write checks to progressive candidates, fine, I get that, it's a view people have, though not mine. But if you think taking those actions are a waste of time, then yeah, that's the point you want to make, not that some of the people taking those actions are nerds.

Fair enough. I think we're at the point, though, where they also have to be willing to risk getting their heads cracked open or go to prison. Which is pretty fucked up, but here we are...

It's hard to separate, too, who's what here. I'm just using it as a jumping off point to vent, because of all the bullshit going on right now. I got onto the bus to work today, and people looked SO FUCKING MISERABLE. It's frustrating as hell.

There have been plenty of activists taking those sorts of risks. Whether or not they're likely to be the sorts to be hashtagging #TheResistance or working for Democrats is another issue I suppose xp

The shallowness of people's popcult reference pulls tends to annoy me, but it doesn't surprise me, since marketing for blockbuster franchises is omnipresent and reinforced in every social channel folks come in contact with for years.

Also, yeah, I'd kinda dial back on how much of a hypermasculine metaphor gets thrown around as indicator of ideological or personal robustness.

Point taken

I got onto the bus to work today, and people looked SO FUCKING MISERABLE.

do u really find that most random ppl you run into who are miserable are so bc of the current political climate? ime 70% of ppl aren't even paying attention + don't care. (which come to think of it u should probably save yr ire for them.)

you need help c_k

I got onto the bus to work today, and people looked SO FUCKING MISERABLE

counterpoint: they're on a bus

I've been on buses where everyone (incl the driver) were singing Billy Joel songs so ymmv

it's just i see loads of ppl every day who look miserable and i don't think it's bc trump is president bc i don't remember ppl seeming much happier 2 years ago

I've been on buses where everyone (incl the driver) were singing Billy Joel songs so ymmv

― Οὖτις, Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:20 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao amazing

do u really find that most random ppl you run into who are miserable are so bc of the current political climate? ime 70% of ppl aren't even paying attention + don't care. (which come to think of it u should probably save yr ire for them.)

They were all office workers of different races, men and women. The social climate is pretty bad in the US right now if every single poll on it is any measure, and it's just getting worse. Yesterday was a pretty bad news day re: transgender and the ACA repeal, if you have any sort of humanity in you. And for anyone with a brain in their heads, it's a bad sign of more things to come. Whether or not it happens is another thing.