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I would expect debate/amendment process to drag on for days, no?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

i sure hope not. these tax cuts will spur growth ASAP :)

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

The idea is to get it done by thursday

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

that seems ambitious

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

what if pence voted no and then the rapture happened and then it was revealed that pence was the antichrist?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

the gamble is to get some magical combo of amendments that will appease both Lee/Cruz/Paul and Collins/Murkowski/Capito/Portman and man idk if they couldn't work it out before why would they all be able to do it now? I assume Schumer & co are busily drafting amendments that might attract votes from the "moderates" while sinking any prospective bill w the hard right wing.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

the primary crisis in the US, according to our "conservative" overlords, is the egregious taxation subjecting the wealthy. the idea is to get this done yesterday

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

glad the mccain can rush out of the hospital bed in solidarity with those that will be kicked out of theirs .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

I can't imagine how disgusting cable news must be now, with CNN using a countdown for McCain's appearance or some shit.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

details don't matter really when tax cuts are at stake

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

at least he won't be remembered for palin now

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

the "clean repeal" bill is going to fail, which leaves the "skinny repeal" - which also doesn't pass muster w Paul and Graham(!) and some others presumably, so what does that leave? some kind of frankenstein bill

qualmsley tax cuts aren't in any version currently, unless you consider the individual/employer mandate repeal a tax cut (yes we all get your broader point, which is true)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

I thought the cuts to medicaid were supposed to pay for top brakcet tax cuts?

Treeship, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

I think that gotten taken out of McConnell's BRCA bill/version, iirc?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

and that bill never had enough votes to pass, as enough GOP "moderates" came out against it

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

im (optimistically? naively?) with shakey - actual final bill seems nearly as dubious as it did before. it's definitely more likely. but this whole thing could also just be cover that another batch of senators demanded from mcconnell: give us the chance to say we Voted To End Obamacare or we'll get primaried on it. then the "moderates" go back to voting no because the actual bill is apocalyptic for them back home, but they say "well I thought it was important to have the debate, see if we could solve the problems and we just couldn't quite get there.". idk im probably grasping at straws. p.s. fuck these cynical monsters.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

I don't feel optimistic! I think something will pass and it will suck. what it is exactly is p impossible to say at this point.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

ie none of the three options in their current forms have 50+ committed votes

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

Idk. I hate what a zombie this thing is. We keep being told it's dead.

Treeship, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

mccain is giving an inspirational speech to kick things off

"WE'RE GETTING NOTHING DONE, MY FRIENDS, WE'RE GETTING NOTHING DONE. ... all we've really done this year is confirm neil gorsuch to the supreme court"

(and even that was total bullshit)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

Really?

Treeship, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

did someone cut his face open with a soup can

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

why would anybody want to be this asshole's friend

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

With Collins and Murkowski saying no in advance I don't see how anything can pass. Not any medicaid cut, in any way. Some sort of skinny repeal.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

McCain wants to be remembered as the Maverick.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

McCain just admitted he doesn't think the bill will pass anyway

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

I'm getting kind of apoplectic here

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

you know what, mccain is right. now is the time for compromise and incremental progress. come on democrats, change your hearts and start working with mcconnell to kill a few more people!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

FWIW, hard right movement anti-ACA types are just raging right now. They see the whole thing as a cynical sellout from the get-go as much as, say, we do. And they're trashing McCain just as much.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

what a sententious gas bag

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

John McCain, making nobody happy since the day he was born

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile. Dag, V.D. Hanson is not liking the "poke Sessions with a stick" stuff.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/449810/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-tweets-criticism

I lolled a bit at

He was a force for immigration enforcement and an advocate of the ignored muscular working classes long before Trump

The taut, glistening muscles of the ignored working classes. Forgotten men who work deep in the earth, with well-worn tools.

halt and catch fireflies (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

WSJ INTERVIEW: Trump says Sessions—only senator to endorse him in primary—did so bc of big crowds, not loyalty https://t.co/BP4RpTNn79

— Michael C. Bender (@MichaelCBender) July 25, 2017

dude cant be a fucking man and fire sessions himself

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

FWIW, hard right movement anti-ACA types are just raging right now. They see the whole thing as a cynical sellout from the get-go as much as, say, we do. And they're trashing McCain just as much.
Silver lining on a hurricane of shit, thanks Ned <3

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

if i ever have a tumor i'll call it john mccain.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

Dems object to waiving the reading of amendments, which if it continues will MASSIVELY elongate this process.

— David Dayen (@ddayen) July 25, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

hurry up with the tax cuts already. we've humored the self-righteous and the poor long enough

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

Recap: McCain just voted against returning to regular order, and then gave a speech about how important it is to return to regular order.

— Matt O'Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) July 25, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

he's literally Woody Allen in the trial scene of Bananas

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

this motion is a fraud of a mockery of a sham

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

It was a vote to show GOP base that debate on party pledge could proceed. But mods and cons of Sen GOP may walk away from final passage.

— Robert Costa (@costareports) July 25, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

someone photoshop this with the appropriate non-committed folks

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/504/MI0001504453.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

xp "may"

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

The usual weirdness and laughable claims in this Trump press conference. Good one: Trump said right from the start how difficult health care would be, something he illustrated with a series of undulating hand motions ("You go a little bit right, you lose three votes on the left"). Thought for sure I remember him saying it would be the easiest thing in the world.

Press conference over. Took all of four or five questions.

clemenza, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

All Mod(s and) Cons

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

costa getting ratioed on twitter (and deleting a tweet) right now for calling mccain's speech a "roar"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

a lot of older journalists getting ratioed too

Quite a major generational & cultural divide in how the media covered that McCain speech. https://t.co/C0kQsSFs8R pic.twitter.com/Tc3juFZzIW

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) July 25, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

not that that matters per se ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link


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