Ross was involved in Earth X (et al), which is one of my all-time favorite Marvel things, so that's not an instant disqualifier.
― Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
I actually kind of like the fact that this won't be a typical mega-huge cataclysm to tie all the books together. I'd give it a chance, but no way in hell will I read like 30 books
― Nhex, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
I like the idea of mixing old and new, and mashing up the continuity (if that's what they're doing). I don't care about the issue numbering thing, though I understand why others do.
― absorbed carol channing's powers and psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
On the one hand, it might give Marvel pause the next time they want to restart a series at #1. On the other hand, it won't.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
their two ideas: renumbering everything at #1 and renumbering everything at the old number. surely there's other possibilities out there
― Nhex, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
just... stop... renumbering
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
Every issue is someone's first issue, so every issue should be #1.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
every issue is assigned a random number between 1 and 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
― Number None, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
numbers to be replaced with emoji, starting with spider-man #⛺️ (coverdate nov 2017)
― the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link
starting to think DJP works at Marvel
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
Using month/year cover dates (like magazines do), instead of issue numbers, seems like a not-entirely-terrible idea. I imagine they would never do it, though, because (among other reasons) it would highlight the disparity btw. real time and comic-book time, and make older issues sound "dated."
― absorbed carol channing's powers and psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
But it would solve this treadmill problem... "High-numbered issues are off-putting to new readers, let's start at #1" -> "This constant renumbering is silly, and the legacy numbering is meaningful to fans" -> repeat ad nasueum
― absorbed carol channing's powers and psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link
I don't think it hit me until now how incredibly repetitive Marvel's gotten when it comes to certain solo character books. I've enjoyed them, but the pattern is kind of ridiculous.
- Jessica Jones has a day job as an investigator, an office she constantly has problems with making rent on - Hawkeye (Kate, not Clint) goes to the west coast and becomes an investigator - She-Hulk miniseries where she quits her job at a big law firm, has problems making rent at her new office, and has an investigator (Hellcat) and an assistant with secret super powers - Spider-Woman has a day job, an assistant with a super criminal past (he has a suit that seems to give him some powers), and Ben Urich helping with investigations
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link
At least Jessica Drew can claim to have been investigatin' since the '70s. Of course, her series also didn't stick to any particular concept, and then was cancelled :/
― absorbed carol channing's powers and psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 27 July 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link
I liked it, in a comfort food serial television way
― mh, Thursday, 27 July 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link
Also, Jessica Jones was initially intended to be Jessica Drew but got turned into a new character because Marvel didn't want Spider-Woman cursing and having anal sex, I guess.
― Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 July 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link
back when they were wary of this Bendis guy messing up their property instead of handing him property to make boring
― mh, Thursday, 27 July 2017 02:45 (six years ago) link
*tries to hit 'Like' button; realizes where I am*
― absorbed carol channing's powers and psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:54 (six years ago) link
Side complaint: did Marvel change their cover designers? Everything (layouts, font, art) looks so amateurish lately. They look like 1990s role-playing-game manuals.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 July 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link
really? i disagree, having casually looked at the rack recently. actually appreciating that the covers tend to reflect the content inside rather than just being generic pin-ups which felt like a problem last decade
― Nhex, Thursday, 27 July 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link
This sort of thing. And this. Just a weird 90s-chunky sort of ugliness.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
oh ok. i see what you mean
― Nhex, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
Yeah. But I do miss Marvel being good! Seemed like they were on a roll just 4-5 years ago.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
ugh yeah that secret empire cover is terrible. it's not actually illegible but it might as well be.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
chuck: i see it too. I think it's retro nostalgia to the target audience which i presume to be men in their thirties?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 27 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
That Ironheart/Iron Man cover finally answers the pressing question "What if Rob Liefeld understood proportions and could draw feet?"
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 27 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
That Generations cover is a variant. The real ones are better - https://comicstore.marvel.com/Generations-2017/comics-series/97936
― absorbed carol channing's powers and psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
haha
https://twitter.com/SenatorWatcher
― soref, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
funny and upsetting!
― Nhex, Saturday, 29 July 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
Reading Jason Aaron's Wolverine run from 10 years ago (!), its good trashy fun.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
I figure that those who care probably know, but hadn't seen it mentioned: The Cosmic Trippiness that Al Ewing is writing in The Ultimates 2 is totally amazing - if you like that sort of thing, then it's probably a career highlight (and I've liked-to-loved pretty much everything he's done apart from That One Book)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link
couldn't get into that; very metal hurlant which isn't my thing i guess
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 6 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
I can't really get into it. I miss Mighty Avengers tbh
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 6 August 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
The intergalactic mercenaries in Al Ewing's Rocket seemed very familiar to me, so a quick check on Wikipedia confirms that I do remember them, not as Technet, but as the Special Executive, from near the end of Alan Moore's run on Excalibur. I don't think I remember reading it at the time, but it's definitely been at least 20 years, and it's a classic Moore "all of these characters are interesting and also they as a team have a specific agenda and there's a great fight scene, and the whole thing is maybe 10 pages" - I'd consider it as part of a spanning set of "Why comics are great"
Also of course reading a wiki entry about any Marvel characters who have been around for that long is a bit like listening to a young child make up an incoherent story - shout out to the paragraph that opens "The Technet were allowed to stay in Brighton, England, where they would use their alien technology to provide the city with sunny weather."
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
They were later used by Claremont and Davis in their US run of the same characters; that's where I remember them from. Really loved that book as a kid!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
yeah, I remember them from the Claremont/Davis years
there's something essential british about them imo, but I can't put my finger on what it is
― mh, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
IIRC, a couple of them had fairly OTT British speech patterns.
Do not overlook the brief period during the Alan Davis solo run on Excalibur (one of the best Marvel runs ever, btw) when the Technet lived in the lighthouse and became the N-Men under Nightcrawler's tutelage.
― I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
Looks like the Silver Sable / Felicia Hardy movie ("Silver and Black") is really happening: http://deadline.com/2017/08/silver-and-black-marvel-sony-movie-sicario-2-holmes-and-watson-bad-boys-3-release-dates-1202147448/
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
I've read a few of the "Generations" issues so far (Jean Grey / Phoenix and Wolverine / All-New Wolverine).
Alex Alonso apparently said, "These stories do happen, they really count. They really matter. This isn't some alternate reality story or some time-travel story." – OK, but these seem like the definition of the one-shot "time-travel story" (and not much more)
The Wolverine ish is pretty good, and genuinely touching at the end (through Tom Taylor still can't write well in Logan's voice, IMO).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link
Also, they seem to be violating their own "compressed timeline" rules (re: "only 13 yrs. have passed since FF #1," or whatever); but I'm not complaining about that...
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link
Just skimmed the Secret Empire plotline (for background on the time-travel). Nutty stuff. Is the Marvel Universe "remade" every few years now? (Oh, and BlackWidow is dead? Puh-leeze...)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
Welp, thats one less spoiler i have to mind now thanks
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
Whoops sorry :/
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
ah, no biggie. just hadn't read the last week or two of continuity; i think i'll be able to handle the shock
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 2 September 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
I can also now report there is a spicy/intriguing reveal at the end of the Thor (Jane F.) / Unworthy Thor (young Odinson) issue of "Generations" (...no spoilers!)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/marvels-inhumans-review-imax-abc-worst-1201873382/
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
The Hawkeye "Generations" is the best one yet -- and actually one of the best single issues of anything I've read in a while. Kelly Thompson does a great job of nailing the Kate / Clint verbal interplay; and in her portrayal of young Clint, accurately hearkens back to Clint as recognizable in the old days (e.g., the Mark Gruenwald series).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
So this is what Legacy is all about (big spoilers): http://www.cbr.com/how-marvel-legacy-changes-everything/
Not to judge a book by its online summary, but I don't see anything here that psyches me up about the current state of the Marvel U. Of course, it comes down to the quality of individual series, anyway; and unfortunately, I'm not sure what the "quality" ones are anymore.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 29 September 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link
they’ve got to pull a Poochie with Old Man Logan now
― mh, Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
I think we are due for a "wipe everything out and start over, this shot is too complicated" reboot in two years which, given marvel's cultural capital, is a level of mismanagement only matched by the us government
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link