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also re: Alfred's Senate vote tallying - love how all these guys voted yes on the MTP just so they can vote "no" on a bunch of shit

having control of all 3 houses is really the GOP's worst nightmare isn't it

if someone came up with a bill to dissolve the federal government and distribute all remaining monies to the top 1% of income earners in the united states, i bet it would get at least a dozen votes

if we had a House of MoneyLords they could convene at Mar-a-Lago

For the remainder of the time it remains above sea level, sure.

But all this is part of Turtle's plan, right? Get everybody to vote yes on "skinny repeal" so it can go to the House and be replaced with the House bill, which then comes back to the Senate and then Murkowski/Capito/Heller have to vote for it, are they going to be the only things standing between Turtle and victory?

Expert Mark Halperin imitation.

having control of all 3 houses is really the GOP's worst nightmare isn't it

I assume you meant all three branches there - Congress, White House, and Supreme Court.

it can go to the House and be replaced with the House bill, which then comes back to the Senate

House bill was already voted down in the Senate, I believe...?

(or did McConnell just not bring it up for a vote at all?)

so fucking confusing

The latest: @SenDeanHeller rejects ACA repeal, says he will vote for "skinny repeal" if Medicaid is left intact. https://t.co/KRkUdLpXWV

— Megan Messerly (@meganmesserly) July 26, 2017

Ah, Cornyn

Cornyn just raised one possibility: The House just passes skinny repeal and Congress calls it a day.

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 26, 2017

yeah you have to think that would be Ryan's preference

he just has to convince the Freedom Caucus that that's all their going to get.

It won't be full repeal but it will totally cripple the system/set it up for further failure. Then they're back in the sweet spot of having voted for repeal, but still getting to complain about Obamacare! Win-Win!

So much winning. Are you tired of the winning yet?

No individual mandate would kill the ACA anyway -- and the people who depend on it.

This is what McConnell wanted anyway, I suspect -- now those senators who wanted to salve their consciences have done so, on the record.

Hard right wonks screaming on Twitter that this leads to a death spiral and inevitable bailout. I'm sure all the donors are thrilled.

House bill was already voted down in the Senate, I believe...?

Yeah but if it goes to conference and the result of the conference is "OK here's what we hammered out" and it's essentially the same as the original House bill, can't the Senate vote on it? It would formally be a new bill, innocent and dewy.

getting to conference with the House doesn't really solve anything - then they just have to renegotiate a bill and bring *that* back to the Senate, where it will probably have a whole bunch of garbage the hard right and the "moderates" don't like, and then we're back to another nail-biting vote with a thin margin for victory.

the above-referenced scenario with the House agreeing to the stripped down "skinny" repeal is probably going to look more attractive to everybody that matters (incl Trump)

Moral victories!

.@RandPaul: "It's a victory for conservatives that we did get a vote for a clean repeal." pic.twitter.com/CoY9qn3Kbq

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 26, 2017

what is falling out of his nose at exactly 0:57 (as he says 'even as a civilian')

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KBBmINdFRs

I still don't get this separate back and forth, honestly

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/russia-sanctions-bill-240984

calcified brain matter afaict xp

So let me understand, "skinny repeal" is the one where individual mandate goes away but insurers still have to abide by ACA regulations so they quickly stop offering coverage and there's a massive crisis?

Everyone wins!

https://thinkprogress.org/buddy-carter-snatching-knots-in-asses-murkowski-ba795e4388f5

wow 27 1/2 whole hours . fuck you

Can they really get everything past the senate parliamentarian, though? Wouldn't it have to impact the budget to get under budget reconciliation? I don't understand what's going on at the moment.

On this one, Rand is correct.

It IS useful to see that the same Republicans who can vote for root-and-branch repeal 50 times or whatever - when it's empty anti-Obama symbolism - won't do so when they have full control and it might actually happen.

This is valuable information for both sides.

https://thinkprogress.org/buddy-carter-snatching-knots-in-asses-murkowski-ba795e4388f5

wow 27 1/2 whole hours . fuck you

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The url...intrigues me

is that some redneck colloquialism I am unfamiliar with?

Can they really get everything past the senate parliamentarian, though? Wouldn't it have to impact the budget to get under budget reconciliation?

they have to show that removing the mandates/medical device tax shows a certain amount of savings, I think that's the only requirement under the Byrd Rule for this effort

After 101 years of life and surviving Pearl Harbor this is how it ends pic.twitter.com/Zkclkj9qlF

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) July 26, 2017

Place not your faith in the Senate Parliamentarian, people.

Once someone tells Trump that there is such a person, that person could be Comeyed, good and hard.

(Side note: as a child, I used to play with the children of the then-Senate Parliamentarian.)

they have to show that removing the mandates/medical device tax shows a certain amount of savings, I think that's the only requirement under the Byrd Rule for this effort

― Οὖτις, 26. juli 2017 23:32 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right, but... how can repealing a tax mean savings?

yeah i don't get that either

when trump has to talk to a group of people he always defaults to this shitty nightclub warmup act steez regardless of venue or occasion

Right, but... how can repealing a tax mean savings?

idgi either tbh but that's probably what a bunch of these mystery amendments are going to address. maybe the argument is that repealing the mandates = less people in the pools = less people requiring subsidies? idk

Fun deep dive into Kush statement from my buddy:

https://www.justsecurity.org/43522/annotated-reading-kushners-statement-federal-prosecutor-white-collar-defense-attorney/

Only 3 GOP sens voted against both bills. One of them voted for MTP. That means only 2 GOP senators are NOT itching for some kind of repeal. pic.twitter.com/97pXeVUpB0

— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) July 26, 2017

Oh well!

https://www.axios.com/republicans-remain-unsure-how-their-health-care-effort-ends-2465871820.html

It ends as everything ends, with death.

I saw more than one comment the other day that the whole approach felt like a 'let's just do it and be legends, man' punt, and so it seems to be.

"This is like a car crash. Everyone will slow down to look at the carnage but no one will get out to help," said one senior GOP aide.

I would say that this is indicative of GOP philosophy in general, except that's probably being unduly generous, a more appropriate analogy would involve them causing the crash in the first place

(but seriously what kind of asshole just drives by a crash without stopping to help)

the whole approach felt like a 'let's just do it and be legends, man' punt

Ooh, ooh, Can they somehow contrive to call it the LEGENDS Act?

"Legislation Endangering Geriatrics and Everyone Not Djillionaires, Seriously (LEGENDS) Act of 2017..."

Ah but of course

Sen. Cornyn on a floor hot mic to Sen. Young: "We're trying to figure out what to do with the individual mandates..."

TELL ME MORE PLZ

— Amelia Frappolli (@AmeliaFrappolli) July 26, 2017

Whoops!

CBO just scored the “skinny repeal” bill. 16M Americans would lose insurance + 20% spike in premiums, per senior Dem aide

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) July 26, 2017

Is anyone going to come up with an alternative direction? If not, are any Senate Republicans going to oppose a skinny repeal bill solely because of this lack of clarity about where this is all going? When asked this question, one of the current GOP aides answered, "Nope. Because [Majority Leader Mitch} McConnell has some mystical power to convince people he knows what he is doing."

It's really not McConnel Mystery Magic as much as it's the rest of the GOP senators being complete idiots...

Better late than never, etc. And is she wrong?

http://caitlynjenner.com/2017/07/my-response-to-president-trumps-attack-on-transgender-service-members/

maybe if more of these dimwits could be weaned from their 'team' and 'battle' metaphors enough to recognize that their offices entail duties to exercise their own judgment and oversight.... : (