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I'd support him in a Dem primary if he runs, he's wonky enough, strong stance against guns and he's the only Dem who reliably speaks out against our cozy relationship with the Saudi gov't

(it's a Roald Dahl story of course) xp

that chris murphy video is kind of chilling. i hope he's wrong. if you're like me and don't really have a good idea of what he meant by "martial law", as applied to the house of representatives and the skinny bill, this info might be useful:

The House has invoked what’s known as “martial law”, which means that they have waived rules prohibiting same-day consideration, causing some critics to suspect that they intend to pass the skinny repeal as it stands. In an e-mail to fellow House Republicans obtained by Politico, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-California) wrote:

While last votes are currently scheduled to take place tomorrow, Members are advised that — pending Senate action on health care — the House schedule is subject to change. All Members should remain flexible in their travel plans over the next few days.

Molly Reynolds, a Brookings Institution fellow in governance studies, explained the process of enacting “martial law” and what it could mean:

When significant bills come to the floor of the House, they generally do so under what’s called a “special rule,” which dictates how long the bill will debate, which amendments can be offered, etc. That “special rule” is reported out of the Rules Committee and voted on by the full House; if it is approved, then debate begins under its terms. Under House rules, to consider a “special rule” on the same day it is reported from the Rules Committee, 2/3rds of the House needs to agree to do so. Alternatively, the House can waive the rule prohibiting same day consideration–that’s what called “martial law.” It’s used periodically in situations like this one, where there’s a major piece of legislation and a deadline they want to meet (here, the August recess) that means they’d prefer not to wait the extra day.

The big question here is whether the House actually wants to consider the bill the Senate might pass, or whether they’d prefer to enter into additional negotiations with the Senate. If the House does want to consider the bill, the martial law authority allows them to do so more quickly.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/07/27/martial-law-skinny-repeal/

Asked if there is any chance this bill becomes law, Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn replied: "No, I don't."

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) July 28, 2017

Oh cool so he's voting no then

I love Andrew Dice @Scaramucci !

— Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) July 28, 2017

I feel like anybody who takes an appointee job in this admin is one of the following:

1. naive little dutch boy
2. closet accelerationist
3. complete sociopath who's never grown out of the 7th grade locker room
4. actual psycho in a suit who is worse than 2+3 put together multiplied by whatever scott adams is now

Watching Enzi speak on c-span wtf w this avuncular dithering n doddering routine i thought all his kind were extinct

more and more i'm beginning to think they're not going to conference with this.

Pence in the house, apparently. Ready to work his magic.

Tbf, if Senators are voting on a bill they hope does not become a law, and it does end up becoming a law, then they can continue to run on repealing health care.

I'm actually boggled at how much everyone is paying attention to this healthcare kabuki.

what else should we be paying attention to? mooch?

It's as if you all think the end result is in question, or ever has been since November.

I hate C-Span clips with empty chairs behind the speakers.

All Congressmen should be compelled to be in the chamber as long as floor business is being handled (barring illness, etc.).

Listening to Enzi ramble is pure torture

I can't imagine they'll pass this abomination that no one even wants to become law.

They will probably do it but it's unimaginable. Dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

Just imagineer it!

I never watch Colbert or any late-night anymore, but just stopped on him for a few seconds and heard "a flaming blindfolded toboggan ride." Seemed accurate enough.

They'll do it, they'll blame the collapse of healthcare on Obama, and then they'll win their their elections next year.

xxp

what else should we be paying attention to? mooch?

OK fine.

The entire executive branch is leaderless except for the bit where Kelly at DHS is ripping families apart via ICE and CBP. That's literally the only part of the federal government that's got a leader who is capable and empowered to do his job right now.

That piece Michael Lewis wrote about DOE? It applies to almost everything at this point. They're gutting everything, out of sight and in silence. The DoD is trying to run itself with almost no input from the WH. The IC is briefing into a memory hole. Every institutional pillar that has preserved the Pax Americana, for better and worse, is being defunded, denigrated, and dismissed. Oh and science? We don't do that anymore in the government. OSTP is already gone. What happens when the government is only staffed by toadies and PR people?

I get what you're saying tombot but this is worth paying attention to and the result is not preordained

jfc

John McCain just applauded for Chuck Schumer's floor speech calling for senators to vote against skinny repeal, so there's that.

— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) July 28, 2017

the health care kabuki could kill millions of americans if it passes and is allowed to stand in court
the executive branch being decimated by neglect has the potential to lead to a nuclear event

Think of it this way: we aren't quite to the point of a nuclear disaster yet, we are indeed on the brink of a healthcare disaster.

I cant really do anything about the executive branch

I'm going to go out on a limb and say both are very important

Sure, but it shouldn't be mysterious why people are focused on healthcare at this particular hour.

we had pre-Obamacare health care eight years ago
we have never had this level of incompetence, absenteeism, and apathy from the cabinet level upwards, not even under the last half-dozen GOP POTUSes (you could argue that some of them, like Dubya/Cheney, did worse by intentionally nominated asshats, and you'd probably end up being right, but I maintain my worries: this is genuinely unprecedented)

i'm sure grover norquist is willing to pitch in

capito and murkowski no so far

What would u like me to do about it tombot

did ted cruz just vote no?

this is not passing?

I had to look away from c-span, not sure whats going on

hatch, cruz, murkowski and capito voted no. and now rubio. and heller

Huh

i worry i am confused here

It's not the repeal vote

It's a motion by a democrat to send the bill back to a committee

I thought this was them voting on a specific change of procedure or something first? That's why the dems are all voting "aye" and the repubs "no," unless I missed something.

i am not sure this is _the_ vote tbqfh

:-(

ah word, it started getting weird with hatch and cruz. sorry all.

The repeal vote is next

Yeah this is a Dem move-to-committee vote

Example of complaints on the right about what's being voted on

http://theresurgent.com/skinny-repeal-does-not-repeal-and-is-not-responsible/

Again, quite obviously our perspectives here are rather different, but you get a sense about why it's so loathed all around.

Nearly every Republican on the floor looks distressed.

The exception?

McCain, Murkowski, Collins — standing together — have a laugh.

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 28, 2017

Every body language sign points to doom for McConnell, but again, this could change quick.

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 28, 2017

I hate Pence and his stupid horseradish head

Shakey: None of us can do much about it, I guess. I am just feeling overwhelmed with what I perceive as a lot of useless information about something that seems overly predetermined, as we say.