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these idiots won lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:23 (six years ago) link

these idiots won lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:23 (six years ago) link

oh cool I drunkenly double posted a useless remark

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:24 (six years ago) link

US deputy Warlord Steve Bannon reported to possess amazing prehensile male appendage, of sort longed for by all US politicians and reporters pic.twitter.com/1sg9RkXTzM

— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) July 28, 2017

Are you Eating It...or is It Eating You? (Sanpaku), Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:24 (six years ago) link

This is all reading/seeming like Game of Thrones at this point. Except theres no boobs.

Lemme tell ya about this lady named Melania...

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2017 07:17 (six years ago) link

Trump's new fixation: legislative reform!

Republican Senate must get rid of 60 vote NOW! It is killing the R Party, allows 8 Dems to control country. 200 Bills sit in Senate. A JOKE!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 29, 2017


The very outdated filibuster rule must go. Budget reconciliation is killing R's in Senate. Mitch M, go to 51 Votes NOW and WIN. IT'S TIME!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 29, 2017


Republicans in the Senate will NEVER win if they don't go to a 51 vote majority NOW. They look like fools and are just wasting time......

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 29, 2017


....8 Dems totally control the U.S. Senate. Many great Republican bills will never pass, like Kate's Law and complete Healthcare. Get smart!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 29, 2017

Four tweets in a row on a single subject, one of them including the very rare six-dot ellipse. He's mad.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

wonder if he realizes that the 60 vote threshold is the only thing that put the ACA's original passage in any peril to begin with.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link

Is there any reason McConnell doesn't bring healthcare up again next week? Isn't the recess still cancelled? Why wouldn't he keep trying? Give McCain a little more.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link

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illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

Is there any reason McConnell doesn't bring healthcare up again next week? Isn't the recess still cancelled? Why wouldn't he keep trying? Give McCain a little more.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, July 29, 2017 8:51 AM (

He didn't change his vote to NO and time's running out to pass anything under reconciliation. Sept. 1 is the deadline.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link

Why do they need more than one day, given the protocols they've already shown they're happy to adopt?

(But I don't understand the issue about McConnell changing to no)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link

The vote on tabling the procedure, right? He could have said no and debate might have continued, I think. As it is, if he wants to keep pushing health care he has to start the process all over again.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

I think. Anyway, he's welcome to keep trying, but it's literally been taking up all of his time, and as Alfred pointed out, there are other pressing deadlines. After they come back from recess (I assume they're not still cutting recess?) they almost immediately have to jump into budget stuff, which if anything could be as contentious as healthcare, depending on how dickish people like Cruz and Paul get.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link

(But I don't understand the issue about McConnell changing to no)

― Guayaquil (eephus!),

It's a traditional Senate trick to bring a bill up for debate again. Harry Reid used it often too.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link

I mean look how long it took them to get THIS bill to the table. the House signed their bill on May 4th, it took almost 3 months for the Senate to actually get a bill to a vote and it failed. this isn't "change two lines, insert one, pass!"

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

I did not realize this at first but Blobfish cant bring up healthcare again under reconciliation, because it was already debated and voted on. McCain screwed him on a procedural technicality.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

aha!

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

Amazing. Also clear now that McCain's yes on motion to proceed is what killed the bill. https://t.co/4CRz8VABeE pic.twitter.com/jzqVqmiZmJ

— Steve Simitzis Ⓥ (@s5) July 28, 2017

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

I dont think Blobfish is gonna be inclined to take any advice on Senate rules from Donnie Two Scoops, doubt he would get the 51 votes to abolish the filibuster anyway

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link

mostly due to Pubs knowing they may be losing the majority soon and OMG SINGLE PAYER IS COMING

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

I've seen a few posts saying that Reddit Senate analysis is bunk, so I'd need more concrete info.

What I'm also seeing is stuff like this:

A McConnell ally pings me and says the Maj. Leader *can't stand* this kind of process advice from down the street. https://t.co/Wq1Wyn3hmN

— Robert Costa (@costareports) July 29, 2017

And this

Of course this exists. From 2013: https://t.co/6jexgjwudr

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 29, 2017

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link

I've seen a few posts saying that Reddit Senate analysis is bunk

I'd never heard of that nuance - a single bill per topic per fiscal year (how do the Senate rules define "topic"?) - but it sounds like kind of arcane thing the Senate is prone to. I defer to other experts.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

"wonder if he realizes that the 60 vote threshold is the only thing that put the ACA's original passage in any peril to begin with.

― Neanderthal, 29. juli 2017 14:49 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

This I don't get. Could someone explain, please?

Mule, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

ACA would have passed really easily w 51 votes. Might have even included a public option. But because Reid needed 60 votes he had to appease assholes like Joe Lieberman.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

xpost dammit I typed out a response but Shakey's was better

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

Aha, right thx. I mistook the reference to "original passage".

Mule, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

That McCain analysis looks solid, or at least makes sense to me. Mitch could bring the ACA up the same way again next year, as part of the same reconciliation run-around, but he would be doing it at the expense of other "budget" issues, like taxation, and it would become his main focus once again, except this time in the middle of an election year. So it looks likely that yeah, barring a major change in congress, this issue is done for now, at least this way. In fact, per those probably premature lame duck pieces about Trump, it is quite possible that on the legislative front his powder is all wet. (Not that he had any real pull to begin with.) Next up is debt ceiling in September, which will take some effort, and then we're basically at the start of 2018 silly season, in which the GOP will be hammered from the right for not repealing the ACA, from the left for trying to repeal the ACA, and in the meantime remain stuck in this weird non-productive purgatory in which they waste even more time and energy on their squeakier wheels and putting out Trumpster fires. And then adding to that is Trump himself, whose key gift seems to be fucking everything up just for the sake of entropy.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

Ha, already rumors circulating per "admin sources" that Kelly to CoS makes it more likely that Trump may oust McMaster next and replace him with Pompeo. Which, as noted, would leave CIA, FBI, DHS, Army, Navy and FEMA without directors.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Morbs won't want to read it, but I tip my hat to Chuck Schumer, who held together a caucus that includes Heitkamp and Manchin. They didn't budge an inch.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

xp until he replaces them with fox news talking heads...and then fox news will be bereft of anchors! the horror.

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

Schumer's silencing of applause for mccain was awesome, cracked me up

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

Schumer is an operator, but he's not a dummy. He knows which way the wind is blowing.

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

Schumer isn't always wrong ... but he is dumb sometimes as well.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

Schumer: he's just like us!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

The big question in my mind regarding near future of the ACA is whether the Republicans will do whatever is in their power to introduce turmoil into the insurance market and defund any part of the ACA they can, so they can continue to claim it is a disaster. That's been their strategy for about 8 years now, so they might just keep it up out of habit, in default of any better ideas.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

The big question in my mind regarding near future of the ACA is whether the Republicans will do whatever is in their power to introduce turmoil into the insurance market and defund any part of the ACA they can, so they can continue to claim it is a disaster.

Looking like the answer is "Yes."

If a new HealthCare Bill is not approved quickly, BAILOUTS for Insurance Companies and BAILOUTS for Members of Congress will end very soon!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 29, 2017

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

That's been pre-ordained which is why this will be a Pyrrhic victory if we don't take back at least one half of Congress

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

That "Trump made Priebus kill a fly" bit made me think of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SqgCnLcOQ0

maura, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

Candie for president tbh

maura, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

look for the Sunday shows to be full of Republicans "outside the tent pissing in" - my guess is the guys currently holding elected positions (and their staffers) will have spent a lot of hours on the phone with the likes of Gingrich, asking them to float a "it comes down to who is in the WH" trial balloon, so they can see if a revolt against Trump might play in Peoria.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Ha, already rumors circulating per "admin sources" that Kelly to CoS makes it more likely that Trump may oust McMaster next and replace him with Pompeo. Which, as noted, would leave CIA, FBI, DHS, Army, Navy and FEMA without directors.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:23 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trump replacements are so much more dangeros than no directors at all - especially since he'll use supporters to fill in the ranks. I hope there isn't some Deep State, Trump-NWO-type cult out there.

the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

there isn't. there is no bench, other than career government and military folks. nobody wants to work for this guy.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

two scoops is set to sign unanimous russian sanctions. i hope vlad doesn't call in all the loans at once

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/white-house-says-trump-will-sign-russia-sanctions-bill.html

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

Imagine the road movie involving these two.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/pickle-to-fox-and-friends-i-wrote-to-trump-because-i-wanted-him-to-be-my-friend/amp/

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

I think Alfred has the wrong link; this is the Schumer-focused Times piece.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

[url=http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/29/senate-republicans-obamacare-repeal-241128]Meanwhile, the zombie lives![url]

Trump, increasingly impatient with the long-stalled repeal effort, met with three Senate Republicans about a new plan to roll back the health care law on Friday, signaling some lawmakers — as well as the president — are not ready to ditch their seven-year campaign promise.

The group is trying to write legislation that could get 50 Republican votes, according to multiple administration and Capitol Hill sources. The proposal from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) would block grant federal health care funding to the states and keep much of Obamacare’s tax regime. White House officials also met with House Freedom Caucus chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) to brainstorm how to make the idea palatable to conservatives, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.

But!

But the GOP would have to take another painful procedural vote to open debate, and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is expected to remain in Arizona for cancer treatment until the end of the August recess. McCain voted to open debate on the Obamacare repeal effort, but voted against the GOP’s “skinny” bill that would gut the law’s individual mandate.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

the only comparison I can make is basically Hurricane Season, where a new threat always pops up after another one skirts by you and you grit your teeth while you wait for it to blow by

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

I fully expect this to never end until they get what they want
Like a four year temper tantrum from toddlers in suits

The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

wish there'd be a virus that only impacted old conservative politicians

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link


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