Is music journalism really a career for an adult?

No foul. I shouldn't be on the internet at the moment. It's my own lookout. And thanks.

I'll just say I really love the Quietus and appreciate what you do

<3 JD

Heavy third to that.

Though it's written by a movie critic, I thought this article provided some interesting insight into the reviewing/rating process. He talks about exactly what the difference is between a two-star and a three-star movie, etc.

Speaking as an "artist" in another medium, I love good journalism and criticism. It has regularly opened my eyes to seeing things differently and informed my creativity. Carry on, jurnos.

how much of "music journalism" is album reviews at this point, anyway? It seems like what people pay attention to (or at least what I see people post about on fb) are interviews or concert or festival reviews. The only album reviews I see getting shared are by obscure acts mostly in the vein of, "Hey someone actually published something about us!"

But I'm not a music journalist, so *shruggy emoticon*

... okay, also obituaries and "scene reports" -- but seriously, I don't really think very many people I know read reviews of widely available popular music, because they can just listen to it themselves for free with nominal effort. Who cares what some writer thinks.

^ yeah. Only time I read a review of something is if it's a new record by an artist I'm psyched about and cannot help but want to know what it sounds like ahead of time.

Obituaries, definitely. Number-one growth industry after wind power.

the original piece sort of tiptoed around this, but there's something very demoralizing about how how this whole discussion cycle started with Kings of Leon and Chance waging proxy-wars-via-employers on twentysomething writers over some "offensive" mildly critical reviews of their work, yet music writers receive far worse pretty much every time they publish anything that isn't glowing (or if it's glowing about the "wrong" artist) and they're told to just get a thicker skin

Whoa man

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Though it's written by a movie critic, I thought this article provided some interesting insight into the reviewing/rating process. He talks about exactly what the difference is between a two-star and a three-star movie, etc.

― grawlix (unperson), 30. juli 2017 16:02 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow, I hated hated hated that article. Zero stars. So wrongheaded about criticism. Though I guess I'm lucky that I pick and choose my reviews as well, so I don't have to think about how Kevin Smith would fit into my rating system. But this description of a four-star film is horrible and convinces me I never need to read that critic:

Every so often, though, I don't have anything to complain about. (It's rare, I know.) The movie starts clearly, and with a strong point of view. The actors disappear into their characters, and the characters have their own emotional logic. The plot is intriguing as it unfolds -- and yet afterwards, often seems inevitable, because it springs directly from the way these people would act. The cinematography and editing and music are both artistic and modest - serving the story stylishly while never only calling attention to themselves.

i bet that guy's a blast on tindr

... okay, also obituaries and "scene reports" -- but seriously, I don't really think very many people I know read reviews of widely available popular music, because they can just listen to it themselves for free with nominal effort. Who cares what some writer thinks.

― sarahell, Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:20 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Reviews, historically, were probably only useful within the narrow purview of music nerds - and most people aren't hardcore music nerds - but I still utilize them to figure out who to check out among the vast array of new-to-me artists. I kind of agree with you about artists you already have affection for; no matter what the reviews are for the new War on Drugs record, for example, I'm going to check it out.

welp looks like MTV.com laying off good writers and pivoting to video is really paying off!!

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Cool, cool

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Ugh

At least they've been marking them off separately.

Rolling Stone seeks wallet council to submit for inspection

Every thought leader needs their thought sheeple tbf - just boycott this shitrag and encourage everyone else to do so imo

wow going the Forbes route

One of the best writers I know is an editor at Rolling Stone right now. I honestly feel bad for him, going down with the ship like this.

I dealt with a couple of RS contributing editors recently and they seemed liked pretty good guys as some others that knew them confirmed. Hint: the two of them are best friends since college.

i think im gonna do it

idk just for a year or two, see if it gets my followers up

O_O

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man I hate it when journalistic outlets run into financial straits in the current publishing environment

lol

The answer for this thread title is “no but it should be”

Otm.

Looked up the lyrics for "Cover of the Rolling Stone" and made an attempt at a Rob Sheffield-style rewrite. ("Thoreau is like Ralph Emerson/Ralph Emerson is what I read!") Quickly gave up--virtually impossible to work in "Just to be clear, you'll be paying them."

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I don't know if anyone gets Todd Burns' Substack newsletter, but this was pretty funny in this morning's:

Corrections Department

Last week, I wrote that Rolling Stone is paying thought leaders to write for them. It is, in fact, the opposite. Rolling Stone is asking thought leaders to pay Rolling Stone to write for the magazine. Which is, uh, quite a difference.

OnThisDay 1978: The Clash’s Joe Strummer and Rick Wakeman from Yes discussed the press with music journalists Nick Kent and Ray Coleman. pic.twitter.com/dGfF2SbX4e

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