No! What did he say?!
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Monday, 31 July 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
X-post
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Monday, 31 July 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
I might be completely wrong but I could imagine Lynch not knowing what Se7en or Mad Men is
you are completely wrong
― Οὖτις, Monday, 31 July 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/lynch/david-lynch-mad-men/
― Οὖτις, Monday, 31 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
"Does one chair lead to another?"
― Dancing on the Pylons, Monday, 31 July 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
Thanks Shakey.
Cooper could be a UFO when he was flying around at the start of the season.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 31 July 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
so distressing 😭
https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J3VIsEOFuxnkUTu/giphy.gif
― Dancing on the Pylons, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
seems like the logical outcome for a woman whose husband raped and killed her daughter then died
― akm, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
Absolutely. Just thought that specific moment was one of the most distressing and dread-inducing ones of the entire series so far, not least with those sounds from the kitchen and her voice dropping like that.
(Just in case, that emoji was the weeping one, not the one crying with laughter, similar though they look. They look too similar on here, I am too Twitter-centric :'( )
― Dancing on the Pylons, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
Lynch seems to watch more TV than movies. He's also talked about Breaking Bad and True Detective
― Number None, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
Have to admit that when I hear UFO I still think saucer shaped spaceship. But of course it could be just about anything in the air that is unknown.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, July 31, 2017 1:21 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
e l e c t r i c i t y
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link
Just saw the last one. Surprised at all the eye-brows raised at Audrey on here! Someone said it best up here, we are missing 25 years of context. She's obv in a terrible marriage, yet wouldn't just ask her husband to come with her on a search for 'Billy' - who she fucks - if there's not an inkling of a deep connection left.
It was def the slowest episode of The Return, but I felt it was warranted, it did not annoy me at all. Cole's damsel taking three minutes to leave the room had me in stitches, there was something spooky and unreal about her smile too. I think Coop's only scene, with the baseball, was just there to say: 'Dougie' is still nowhere near any awakening, he's still completely lost. Not expecting a "return" (har har) anytime soon.
Since I'm better at asking questions than delivering answers (you guys are way smarter than I am):
- Where did Gordon and Albert let Tammy in on their 'division'? What room was it? Because Diane stepped in through ~red curtains~- Was Beverly crying at Ben's green bike story? Did I see a tear?- The coordinates didn't make sense to me: she spelled out coordinates plus two. How did that work?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
On the last point, "Co ord i nates plus two" seems to have been a mnemonic Diane was mouthing while she memorized the (possibly doctored) coordinates written on Ruth Davenport's arm in the photograph.
― one way street, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
Was Beverly crying at Ben's green bike story? Did I see a tear?
yeah I noticed this too. Also Ben's "he never had a father" comment points to the Mr. C-raped-comatose-Audrey theory
― Οὖτις, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
Cole's dame was a mime.
― Dan I., Monday, 31 July 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
xp where are people getting this theory from? out of thin air? or am i really bad at watching tv?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 31 July 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
billy zane was obv a deadbeat dad
The bad coop raped audrey theory? alzheimer's doc said he saw coop at the hospital after the events of s2 finale
― Dan I., Monday, 31 July 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
(where audrey was in a coma)
aaaaaaah
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 31 July 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
I do hope (although I do not necessarily expect) that the show will become more Twin Peaks-y as we near the end.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link
Lynch said he was happy with the original tv series until "Who Killed Laura Palmer". What is he referring to? There isn't an episode called that.
Is there any good articles or documentaries which detail his level of involvement across the series and about the other writers and directors input? Was he on set for episodes he didn't direct or act in?
Can't believe Diane Keaton directed an episode.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link
B-b-but several of these clearly aren't plot points to be resolved? "The evidence the FBI found in Georgetown" was just a humorous way to re-introduce Albert and Gordon. Same goes for the place Bad Coop visits in the first ep.
Still six eps left ffs!
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 00:49 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's true, it's just... so much. i don't mind the sprawl (and the colour) at all, but i'd like to see at least some of it pay off before too long.
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
What Alzheimer's doc? Xpost
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
Doc Hayward
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
also how is it that no one has yet commented on the shot of Diane appearing from between two dark red curtains, that whole shot composition was straight out of the Red Room
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 01:31 (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wins and i did, but tbh this thread is careening along like bad coop's driving skills at 2.53
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
aldo:
Hawk is transphobic about Denise
by the end of the scene he's cool with it. from what i can remember of 1991 that's about as progressive as you'd find on prime time american network television. i'm willing to give him (and the production) a pass on this.
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
Nah, he's still giving him the side-eye. Harry not much better. Dale is shocked but just about copes.
But then later at the Great Northern they're just all like "right, the script says he's just explained it to Cooper when we weren't there so we have to act like we know all about it"
― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
yeah, there are plenty of problems with the show at that point, but a character like denise in the early '90s would almost certainly be (a) the subject of derision or (b) a massive deal, so addressing her situation quickly and moving on was pretty forward-looking imo
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
Lynch said he was happy with the original tv series until "Who Killed Laura Palmer". What is he referring to
I’m assuming it’s the fact CBS forced Frost and Lynch into answering that question, when they were going to let it linger and do the soap opera style thing as long as possible instead of going straight toward the resolution of the murder investigation.
― mh, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link
xp (sorry mh) also it's a small town in the countryside in the early '90s, in which you'd expect people to be less accepting, so the fact that they moved on quickly was far from the worst outcome.
recently i saw a 1990 episode of northern exposure which handled a gay topic so badly it was insulting (maurice sacked his dj for saying walt whitman might have been gay, and went on a brutal anti-gay tirade). the episode resolved it by expecting the audience to sympathise with maurice.
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
compare this to that shitty show Pretty Little Liars which never answered the main question of who the secret identity of some character was for like 8 seasons and people loved it (why do I now this? I got bored and watched a full season of it at some point on netflix)
― akm, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link
My girlfriend tells me that Jay Ferguson, who played Stan on Mad Men, is in the cast list but has yet to appear. Whoever he's playing, he's my new pick to be the voice that Evil Cooper talked to in the motel room in pt. 2. It kinda sounds like him. I'm still mostly hung up on plot points from the first two episodes.
― Chris L, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
xp hell man, they didn’t reveal who Gossip GIrl was until the show’s finale
― mh, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link
oh that's right
― akm, Monday, 31 July 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link
yep. here's the way he describes it in Lynch on Lynch (sorry in advance for my typos and other weird mistakes, i am eating leftover thai at the same time and my limbs and digits are flying left and right):
INTERVIEWER: By the time we got to the answer - that it was Leland - it doesn't really seem to matter any more. By then it's clear that an evil force - Bob - is operating from within the "host" character anyway. So pointing the finger at Leland isn't really an answer at all.LYNCH: It's not an answer. That was the whole point. Mark Frost and I had this idea. The way we pitched this thing was as a murder mystery but that murder mystery was to eventually become the background story. Then there would be a middle ground of all of the characters we stay with for the series. And the foreground would be the main characters that particular week: the ones we'd deal with i detail. We're not going to solve the murder for a long time.This they did not like They did not like that. And they forced us to, you know, get to Laura's killer. It wasn't really all their fault. People just got a bug in them that they wanted to know who killed Laura Palmer. Calling out for it. And one thing led to another, and the pressure was just so great that the murder mystery couldn't be just a background thing any more. The progress towards it, but never getting there, was what made us know all the people in Twin Peaks: how they all surrounded Laura and intermingled. All the mysteries. But it wasn't meant to be. It just couldn't happen that way. The yearning to know was too intense. But the mystery was the magical ingredient. It would've made Twin Peaks live a lot longer.
LYNCH: It's not an answer. That was the whole point. Mark Frost and I had this idea. The way we pitched this thing was as a murder mystery but that murder mystery was to eventually become the background story. Then there would be a middle ground of all of the characters we stay with for the series. And the foreground would be the main characters that particular week: the ones we'd deal with i detail. We're not going to solve the murder for a long time.
This they did not like They did not like that. And they forced us to, you know, get to Laura's killer. It wasn't really all their fault. People just got a bug in them that they wanted to know who killed Laura Palmer. Calling out for it. And one thing led to another, and the pressure was just so great that the murder mystery couldn't be just a background thing any more. The progress towards it, but never getting there, was what made us know all the people in Twin Peaks: how they all surrounded Laura and intermingled. All the mysteries. But it wasn't meant to be. It just couldn't happen that way. The yearning to know was too intense. But the mystery was the magical ingredient. It would've made Twin Peaks live a lot longer.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 31 July 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
"THERE IT IS ALBERT, THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG"
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link
well by that standard I'd say he's got another 4-5 seasons in him the way things are going now
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link
― akm, Monday, July 31, 2017 3:54 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i hate to break this to you but they reveal that character three times over seven seasons which i have unfortunately watched every minute of
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link
Cole's damsel taking three minutes to leave the room had me in stitches, there was something spooky and unreal about her smile too.
I totally read this scene as a reference to Laura Dern's terrifying grin moment in Inland Empire
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link
oh wait my favorite moment in the last episode was carl telling his neighbor not to sell his blood
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link
carl rules so much
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link
his uber whistle is fantastic
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
i am currently rewatching fire walk with me and carl is the best character? "you see, i've already gone places. i just wanna stay where i am"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
Between his recent song and last night's moment, I've really come to love Carl so much
“Keep your blood, Kriscol.”—Carl Roddhttps://t.co/hvRyWzGvbM #TwinPeaks pic.twitter.com/Yyrh1L1JoF— Twin Peaks 🍷 (@ThatsOurWaldo) July 31, 2017
― Dancing on the Pylons, Monday, 31 July 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link
Ohhhh, there was an 'L' at the end. Thought that dude's name was Crisco.
― Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link
the great surprise of this show is the characters who have been given new prominence (carl, bobby, gordon, albert, hawk) and the ones who are completely new (diane, janey-e, bushnell, candie, bill hastings, frank, bad coop, chad). so many all-time legends here.
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link
Re: what someone said upthread about Audrey's appearance, Lynch definitely falls back too much on making female characters shrill harridans being reactive in the face of stoic men who are reasonable and in control of their emotions.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link
It's one of his worst impulses
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
I was wondering in the middle of her rant if there would be a reveal that this was her big scene from the 37th season of An Invitation To Love.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link