The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

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Some of the new DLC additions are quite neat. Theres now a tool in the map function that shows you everywhere you've been on the map. I'm over 150 hours in now, so at this point this is *massively* useful to me to go back over areas I've missed, pick up koroks and shrines and etc.

The other is a pocket travelpoint. Can only use it in one spot at a time alas, but for eg at the moment I'm using it to jump to a spot up over Lanryu Promenade, which is a great spot to wait for the Ice dragon to come by in the morning so I can jump out and farm him for parts.

I might also set it at somewhere like the Southern Mine in the Goron area - there's no shrines anywhere near it so it's a pain to get to.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 3 August 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

96 shrines down, and only found 110 korok seeds. its INSANE that there are 800 more to find. totally not going to easily find the last 24 shrines so gonna KILL THIS DARN BOSS.

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 3 August 2017 08:05 (six years ago) link

OK now I think I get this game now. I've been spending my time wandering aimlessly across the place only, looking at things, catching horses (Gary, Max, Tracy, Jabroni), avoiding fighting and then allovasudden the fighting starts to make sense and a whole new world of the game has opened up for me. So much so that I finally lit the torches to the hateno tech lab and in the hour since have been strolling about blasting bokoblins hither and yon, giggling away like a loon. I am officially back in love with this game.

calumerio, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

no way am I ever going to complete this game tho.

calumerio, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

Yeah I avoided fighting the big bosses til I learned thats how you get the really good weapons.

Unforch, now that means I can kinda beat anything pretty easily :/

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

i would pay money to never have to do a horse (or chocobo) race again in my entire life

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 05:06 (six years ago) link

omg yes i have at least 3 horse- based quests i haven't done cos fighting on horseback is hard!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 13 August 2017 07:46 (six years ago) link

i didn't even know there was fighting stuff, i was just talking about the hurdle race

the prize is literally horse cosmetics but by the time i figured that out i had already pumped two hours into the goddamn thing and i wasn't going to lose

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link

going to go ahead and say that game design that asks players to repeat difficult mechanics over and over again until they can do it in less than 75 seconds in inherently bad game design, obsessive repetition should never be encouraged

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 08:43 (six years ago) link

Obsessive repetition is the foundation of entire genres

softie (silby), Sunday, 13 August 2017 10:13 (six years ago) link

those genres should be shot into the sun

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

I choose to go to the sun and play marble madness there

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

But I guess the constraints of game memory and the incentive to make arcade-friendly quarter-suckers is the reason that so many foundational games are based on mastery of repetition and memorization

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

I think qualx just hates video games

circa1916, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

Like "obsessive repetition" is pretty foundational, did you have a Nintendo?

circa1916, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

obsessive repetition is just another way of saying game

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 August 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

lol otm

softie (silby), Sunday, 13 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

Not to pile on qualx who I know likes video games just fine. Obsessive repetition is just one of the things I like most about video games!

softie (silby), Sunday, 13 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

no video games generally suck a lot

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

I did have a nintendo, and obsessive repetition was funner when you're 10 and you don't have anything else to do

but as it's been said that probably wouldn't have been a thing if it weren't for exploitative quarter-munching

you're never gonna convince me that adults repeating the same janky process over and over again for hours until they get it perfect is the result of good game design

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

make a game that's fun and offers steady progression I could be learning the trumpet or something

qualx, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

Oh the hurdle race! I'd forgot all about that, I did it ages ago. The trick is not to go toooo fast - you cant control the horse too well.

Oh also, make sure your horse is 100% tamed! He wont obey you otherwise.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 13 August 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

finally playing this - i've managed to avoid most information about the game despite being late to the party. i'm surprised at how much it just feels like a zelda game despite the wider scope and new combat mechanics - it's just as much of a logical step forward from the previous zelda formula as ocarina was from the 2d zeldas.

so far i'm dumping all my upgrades into hearts since i'm still running into things that one-shot me - is there a point at which i'm going to regret not having extra stamina or can i get by without it until i'm in double digits of hearts?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link

More stamina lets you climb more and thus be a little more joyfully heedless while exploring, as you are incrementally less likely to run out of stamina while dragging yourself up a cliff.

.oO (silby), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 03:35 (six years ago) link

@ cider press there is a good reason to press forward until you have 13 hearts, but I would probably upgrade to a second stamina wheel before making that plunge

fgti, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

You can also switch between the two

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

beat the game so i feel safe to finally post here. loved this.

fgti is correct, but stamina honestly makes the game much easier to get through vs. hearts since most fights can be avoided / healed through, while stamina is the only way to scale mountains. besides you will get those heart containers fast enough i assure you

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link

you're never gonna convince me that adults repeating the same janky process over and over again for hours until they get it perfect is the result of good game design

― qualx, Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:59 PM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


absolutely agreed. thankfully this game rarely makes you do that*, there are so many ways to do things/get around. even the final castle must have at least six different ways to get in. after i beat the game i found a freakin' stable i missed near the start of the game, because i went completely around it for 120 hours

*only examples i can think of were that initial journey to the Zora's domain, which is tough going without a lot of fights. also the lynel fights. even those can be tanked through with the right equipment - none of them are required, either!
**and that one shrine where you had to use stasis to golf a boulder across some water. that was a bit tedious

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 04:45 (six years ago) link

but yeah this game. best of generation. 100% worth buying a Switch for. so good. makes me want to play the Zeldas i have missed, though i know they won't be as good.

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 04:45 (six years ago) link

after i beat the game i found a freakin' stable i missed near the start of the game, because i went completely around it for 120 hours

This is why the Heros path mode in the DLC update has been a freaking boon. There are whole mountains i've missed!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:07 (six years ago) link

what is that?

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link

It shows you the last 200 hours of where you've been on the map!

eg:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/5HiM5gFPY6zMCeDPOmbTbkKN6Gc=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8718497/02_herospath.jpg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link

whoaaaa

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:35 (six years ago) link

It wasnt much extra to buy. Theres also a master sword quest, which makes the master sword permanent and unbreakable. I'm leaving that for after-finished game tho, its apparently quite hard.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:47 (six years ago) link

The Master Sword quest is certifiably extremely difficult, and kind of showed me some holes in the standard combat, as I couldn't consistently kill hard Moblins despite "good technique"-- so I used a lot of archery

It really can't be stressed enough that upgrading your armour is a good move. I gave directions to the three other fairy fountains to a dude in my Uberpool last month

fgti, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link

yeah I just got to Zora's domain and that sequence was the first time it felt like a 'normal' video game. I didn't have much trouble with it though, my only death was being struck by lightning, not to enemies

love the Zoras in this game. they want me to go fight a lynel now though so I'm gonna disappoint them and wander off to explore other parts instead

the npc dialogue is so good, i want to talk to every random nobody because they usually say something funny or weird

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

this game is insanely immersive. i live in an area with foggy mountains, and i felt that i existed within the game while on a walk this morning. like Trayce, I've become obsessed with cooking. I spent about an hour cooking yesterday, partially because my son's face lit up every time the cooking music played. wish it would give the minimal recipe required to make a thing after you successfully made it, though, as i may be wasting ingredients. all of these gear/screws/springs/gems are just crap to trade, no? i suppose it's more realistic than a world covered in loose money, but i'm scared that i'll miss out on something later if i sell them all. are there vendors that overvalue certain items, as there were in previous games?

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

the ancient gears/springs/screws have a use

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

i don't know how far you are but i found said use pretty early on via following the main questline

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

ok, thanks! I've just been to the second village. so I haven't done much, and I'm taking it slow.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

even if you do need to sell them though its not a big deal since the game doesn't have scarcity - everything respawns given enough time

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

hope to pay a future zelda mortgage with bokoblin fangs

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

hope to pay a future zelda mortgage with bokoblin fangs

Guess what…

.oO (silby), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

the ancient gears/springs/screws have a use

A big use! Dont sell them, especially the gears and spheres and ESPECIALLY never sell any giant spheres. They are needed for obtaining ancient armour and weapons and you willllll need that shit for fighting guardians.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

...someone is now gonna come along and tell me they took down a big roaming guardian with 3 hearts and a shoe, I suppose.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

I fought that first guardian for so long. the load screen kept giving me the ole "don't throw yourself at enemies..." tip, and it only enraged me further. It was a lesson well learned, though: this is not ocarina of time.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

Haha yes, feel no shame in running away early and often :)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

I avoided all the big bosses completely for a long time but as I think Ive said before, eventually you should have a crack at it cos most of them have great weapon drops.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

I need to learn to fight better, I think. In OoT, the side jump and jump attacks were so unreasonably powerful. I could fight. It feels like each enemy is his own punchout boxer in this one, and I need to look for tells. I usually sneak up on them or strike from a distance. When I need to fight in close range, I'm usually outnumbered, and that seems to be a huge problem in this game. or maybe I'm just rusty from a 10 year gaming hiatus.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link

I spent the first day ignorant of the motion controls, thinking that there was some kind of realistic inaccuracy built into my arrow/rune/etc aiming because the crosshair kept jumping randomly.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:53 (six years ago) link


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