new premium ep is pretty great, i haven't actually read the Trump phone call transcripts yet so i'm enjoying this insanity ("the local milk people")
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
any ilx0rs go to DSA in person?
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 4 August 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
I've asked around before and got a few positive replies, don't think anyone is at the convention tho
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
since I guess this is the de facto DSA thread, I liked this set of interviews w/ POC members (including a couple in slates/committees)
http://splinternews.com/forget-bernie-bros-meet-the-young-people-of-color-lead-1797710340
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
Electing a guy who worked for a cop union to the NPC and the ensuing shit storm is just an amazingly 'American leftist' turn of events.
― louie mensch (milo z), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link
Yes, though tbf he seemingly deliberately concealed that aspect of his work history and they seem to be doing a decent job of dealing with it
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link
Oh, he should definitely go, it's just the whole chain of events feels like yet another repeat of the way leftist groups shoot themselves and each other in the foot.
Between the steering committee to examine Fetonte and all the convention talk on this episode and a couple of other podcasts, all I can envision in my head is the SPUSA convention from Reds.
― louie mensch (milo z), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link
Only instead of Warren Beatty yelling in a smoke filled room it's an avatar threatening to quit the DSA on Twitter.
― louie mensch (milo z), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link
Any organization that tries to be "multi-tendency" is going to have hiccups, and this is a pretty small one in the grand scheme of things. I was sort of amused that for all the talk beforehand about the BDS resolution, only one member that I saw ended up making a fuss and leaving over it.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 11 August 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link
I think Chapo has a use to the left beyond "entertainment" (for that matter I think Stewart was very useful to mainstream liberalism). It's not organizing, but it's a sort of reassurance or reinforcement. For me a weekly dose of Chapo is a reminder, like "it's ok, you don't have to read the Times op ed page and pretend to give a shit what it says. Your instincts are correct, trust them."
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 11 August 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link
OTM - it's separate from 'doing politics' (which they seem to accept way more than Stewart did - they actively support the DSA and progressive causes) but not just comedy.
― louie mensch (milo z), Friday, 11 August 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link
jfc they've more than doubled their monthly take since I started this thread, I keep thinking they'll stall out but nah
https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 11 August 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link
i don't see it plateauing anytime soon, i think they'll hit 100k in a couple months, & for sure by the end of the year.
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link
So ridiculous, bringing in that much cash would be grounds for a purity test witch hunt if it were anyone else on the "left"
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
yeah that's ridiculous, it's a decent podcast but truly not good enough to have all the attention + cash it has
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
― Dan I., Friday, August 11, 2017 10:06 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, you are a dork
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
literally the only purity test aspect of it is that they're making money for sv vc slime as patreon takes a cut
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
― global tetrahedron, Friday, August 11, 2017 1:10 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wah
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
it's worth whatever ppl are willing to pay for it... aka the free market works
― sleepingbag, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
They have thousands of people - most of them giving just $5 a month - giving them all that money. What's the issue? Where's the damage? It got popular. I love how so many writers & podcast people are so pissy about how much money CTH is making, it's just jealousy. Patreon is a great model for artists to support themselves - I like what CTH does, I pay $5 a month, and get a lot of content for a pretty low price relative to most other subscription services. Again, what's the problem? I've heard lots of fans talk about how much money they're making with this kind of suspicious/disdainful tone - I really don't understand it. They're not being bankrolled by anyone but their fans. That fucking rules.
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
Uh yeah I wasn't clear. I'm not against them making money, I'm against purity tests and witch hunts, and especially hypocrisy regarding who on the left is allowed to seek/obtain/possess money without automatically becoming a Bad Guy
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
"I'm against purity tests and witch hunts but i want a witch hunt in this case"
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
xp i was responding to GT
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
I mean, shouldn't that cash be distributed around the rough-hewn wood table of the commune, along with the potatoes and sheaves of wheat?
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
I'm funny sometimes I wish I had a one hundred grand
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 11 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
Not even per month, a one-off payment would suffice
What's the issue? Where's the damage? It got popular. I love how so many writers & podcast people are so pissy about how much money CTH is making, it's just jealousy.
lmao
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link
all criticism of how much money they're making boils down to "they don't deserve it" / "the show isn't good" / "they should be doing something with it"
i love that they're making a ton of money almost entirely from small donations from their fans. that rules. what exactly is the issue?
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
Is that money a consequence of CTH's needs, or their ability?
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
wow, sounds like every socialist critique ever
― sleepingbag, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
http://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/bo160913.png
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
xp lmao i know, it's so ridiculous.
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
If you won't allow your interlocutor to play devil's advocate for a moment, then I will tip my trilby to you and bid you good day
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
"If you love socialism so much why don't you move to North Korea?!?!"
― louie mensch (milo z), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
Gotta confess that I'm trolling into the void here because I listened to 10 minutes of one of their podcasts before deciding I couldn't bear another second of these assholes and their loathsome personalities.
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
Also I'm grumpy cause my Bernie-loving best friend has, in the last 24 hours, come out in favor of the Google "women are stupid" guy and somehow talked himself into being anti-abortion based on an argument from the fetus' right to decide whether or not it gets a circumcision (!?). So I'm reeling
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
damn wtf
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
he's.... impressionable.
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
But also I think there are a lot of idiots out there just like him who are being damaged and alienated by whatever it is that CTH is a part of!
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
well they're not pro-life and afaik not supportive of the google dude, though it hasn't been discussed on the show & i haven't seen any of them tweet about it. i'd be surprised if they supported google dude
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
Apparently! Jfc
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
Xp
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
I think their last live show went to benefit a pro-choice group?
No idea how one dumbass becoming a pro-life misogynist reflects on a podcast that doesn't support either of those.
― louie mensch (milo z), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
What on earth is it that makes you think CTH have anything to do with each other beyond your friend liking Bernie? CTH regularly make fun of Silicon Valley turds and featured a segment (admittedly an outtake) where a host who'd had an abortion confronted a pro-life hardliner.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
because he's trolling
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
it doesn't make sense to me either, but guys like him hear people talking shit about "YAAAASS" and stuff like that and pick up on that dog whistle (and it is a dog whistle)
― Dan I., Friday, 11 August 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
for what
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
if disliking cis straight white women using the vernacular of queer people of colour is wrong i don't want to be right
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
doubt that'll ever be a concern
― sleepingbag, Friday, 11 August 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
the mordant wit of sleepingbag strikes again
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link