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At some point you'll want to, like when you get more covers of them. And although the Storm/Hawkeye/Magneto combo is great for the 2* DDQ nodes, there are other combinations that will let you breeze through (I've been using Wolverine/OBW/Carol). xp

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

champed mordo too. he's pretty cool in tandem with C&D.

Mordy, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

yeah, that's the problem, I've already dumped Wolverine and Carol for ISO and am running low on two stars

mh, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

I recently switched my DDQ team to OBW/Ares/Carol so that I could champ Mordo and Bum Fist. Gonna funnel ISO back into rebuilding my 2*s once I've champed X-23.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

I hate Ares, I think it's irrational but I just don't like using him

mh, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

I mostly use whoever my highest leveled 2* are at the time---right now it's Thor and Bullseye and maybe Storm? I level them so fast now: a cycle is like a month?

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

ares is pretty good. i've been trying to double up all my 2*'s but i had to sell 4 champed ones to champ mordo

Mordy, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

Ares is easily the best RYG 2* and can go buckwild pretty easily (esp with OBW; her healing pretty much mitigates his self-damage from Sunder and her purple helps accelerate him, although he's pretty fast on his own)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

(Thor is self-sustaining but doesn't do as much damage, AstWolvie got gimped almost into irrelevancy and is only useful when boosted, and even then I'd rather use Ares' red because it's an AOE)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

thor is slower too. ares can get dmg out so quickly (and iirc his green is uncapped?)

Mordy, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

well capped at 30 i guess but

Mordy, Monday, 7 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

after lazy thor was released I got down on 2* thor but I'm back to thinking he's the best RYG 2*, at 5-3-5 since they nerfed his yellow a long time (to distinguish him from lazy thor). but his red is great, up there with 2* wolvie's and considerably cheaper -> faster.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

hmm, maybe I should try 5/3/5; I've been so used to 3/5/5 to feed into his green that it never occurred to me that I might be gimping his red

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

Ares messes with my
1) aversion to self-damaging abilities
2) desire to "optimize" ap meaning that
a) I wait too long on his green too often and waste some / lots of its damage
b) I wait too long on his red too often and waste some / lots of its damage

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

I don't spend a lot of time worrying about efficiency with Ares. I'm basically like:

- can I kill the dangerous green user with Ares' green? If so, BOOM
- can I fire Ares' red AOE? If so, BOOM
- if I fire yellow, will the countdown get matched away instantly? if not, BOOM (esp if OBW is there because with good luck/timing, you can use her heal to pretty much mitigate the self-damage, esp if can cast yellow again after her heal

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

you are correct on all counts but this is ~~ my struggle ~~

I use him anyway of course when he's up in the cycle as one of my three highest 2*s

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 7 August 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

these are very good tips and Euler's line of thought is close to my own

mh, Monday, 7 August 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

I was scaning forum topics and came across a "what are the fastest PVE teams" thread:

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/66366/fastest-pve-teams

The answers show a pretty wide roster diversity, even though there are a couple of characters that people lean on, which is great. There are so many great characters that do so many cool things that you can figure out a team that suits your playstyle and go to town. (AI defense is still an issue but it's great seeing people use so many different characters to get through PVE nodes.)

I've already seen two teams that look like brutal goon stompers:

5Panther/Thano5/Strang3 or 5Strange

This works if you have 1 red for 5Panther and 1 black for Thano5. Every time a goon fires a power, Strange hits for damage with his passive. When the first goon dies, Thano5 stuns everyone with his black passive and does AOE damage to the opposing team. When the stun wears off, 5Panther's red passive does more damage. The downside is that you will tear through health packs but the matches are ridiculous once the Thano5/5Panther chain starts.

M4rvel/St4r Lord/4R+G

R&G's yellow passive gives you four strike tiles right at the outset, which are boosted by the presence of St4r Lord. When goons start firing powers, St4r Lord's yellow passive floods the board with countdowns that make C4rol's yellow cost 3AP, meaning with 1 yellow match you can pop any of them at will to buff the strike tiles that are out there, or just wait for them to resolve on their own. St4r Lord also reduces the cost of his red nuke, which is buffed by the strike tiles and all of his countdowns. You can throw out more countdowns with R&G's blue (which also gives you attack tiles) and green and C4rol's black (which gives you more strikes), plus you will get more special tiles that C4rol can buff with the resolution of St4r Lord's countdowns. I tried this on the last PVE node in the Unstable ISO event with a lvl 70 R&G and, within 6 turns, I had boosted the strike tiles on the board so much that I was doing between 4K-6K damage per match.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

I don't have St4r Lord so I sub Gamora and since I don't have all that synergy w/ C4rol I've been using Medusa instead. Grocket is amazing tho, even unbuffed. I've been using them in PVP and I can tear down a bl4de or c4rol in about 3-4 turns. the only problems are it struggles against really high HP chars and in really long fights (esp if a lot of your strikes get matched it can get slow going). i'll often end a match w/ the grocket green or blue (or both) to help finish things off. atm i'm using Grocket/Medusa for the Colossus PVP and even without the GoG synergy they're still wrecking.

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

I haven't put any ISO into 4Grocket yet so I haven't really been using them, which is verrrrry likely to change now as this team is faster than my 5* SS/OML/Thano5 team on higher-level enemies and takes less damage. As long as there's a goon around to power St4r Lord's passive, it's insane how quickly damage escalates; I have yet to get to a match that lasted long enough for me to collect enough purple to fire St4r Lord's third power since I started using them together.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

C4arol + Daken + Loki is lots of fun but not against bots

of course C4arol + * is lots of fun

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

I really think C4rol is a better character than Iceman and Peggy at this point; there are too many other characters out there with passive powers that can completely circumvent Peggy's big edge and too many ways to knock Iceman out of the fight before he can start punching/Whiteout casting you for them to be as scary/dangerous as they used to be.

Meanwhile, every time I venture into PVP I see a billion Bl4de/C4rol/Medusa teams and think "ugggggggggh"

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

yeah PVP has gotten a lot more fun since champing all three of them, Bl4de/C4rol/Medusa.

I don't see Peggy out much anymore (have her champed too). & I champed Iceman finally a bit ago but I also don't see how he's so great. He's so slow. I guess run with IM40 but lots of others are good with IM40 (like 4Thor) and his health is a liability.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

When Iceman first came onto the scene, he was capable of destroying an entire team by himself. Power creep has made him obsolete but the player base doesn't acknowledge that yet when ranking characters; Peggy at least has her blue to fall back on which can single-handedly save a game for you.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

Like, everyone now gets that Hulkbuster is no longer terrifying but people are enthralled with Iceman's theoretical Whiteout numbers without looking at what he actually does most of the time, which is decent but no longer crippling given how much health characters now have.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

yeah Iceman and Hulkbuster were both lust objects of mine for a long time & I only champed them in the last six months finally, and they've been disappointments. At least I had Je4n champed while she was still top shelf.

Peggy's blue & red are outstanding; I don't think she's fallen off a lot but yes, the recent spate of passives demote her somewhat.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

Oh agreed, her other abilities make up for characters being designed to circumvent her horribly-unfair-at-the-time passive, but she isn't as scary as she used to be.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

scored top 5 in thick as thieves so my gamora will be max covered (thru prodigal son's progression - 2 gamora covers!) so now i have colossus, sentry and g4mora to champ over the next couple weeks. that's a lot of iso needed! i was thinking i might just trash some of the colossus or sentry covers and focus on champing g4mora both bc i think she'll be ridiculous with grocket (next season sim medusa/grocket/g4mora exclusively!) and bc her covers are worth more in the end.

Mordy, Friday, 18 August 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

Nice! I drew a bunch of Mordo covers so I'm champing him now. I also finally drew my last needed Nova cover so maybe he's next. I have...six fully covered 4 stars to cover now. As ever the iso's the problem.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 18 August 2017 08:48 (six years ago) link

kind of grinding around because I have another couple characters I can champ, even some covers on deck to use when I have the iso, twiddling my thumbs

mh, Friday, 18 August 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

C4rol + boosted Blad3 = lol

Enemy matches are giving me black so I don't even have to chase it, just collect as much purple and yellow as I can; as soon as I can fire Blad3's black, I do, dropping an ever-renewing 1-turn cooldown. Blad3 has usually dropped some strikes for buffing at this point, so I drop his purple for the attack tiles and then start spamming C4rol's yellow to make everything on the board silly. I think so far my best boost has given me 10K match damage and 15K attack hits, allowing me to melt the other team regardless of who they've brought. The only times I've lost have been when I've been too cocky in PVE and gone in under half health only to be hit by an unlucky cascade.

I put in Strang3 as a third and any node with goons on it becomes hilarious.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

same

the low level ones, I don't even need to pay attention to matching tiles because he insta-kills them

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

I started leveling G4mora after covering her at 4/5/4 and... holy shit

Granted, she's boosted in this event but STILL. Her black is silly. (Add in C4rol and gg)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

So many great black skills - carol, hobofist, gamora... c&d is essential for generating

Mordy, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

I got two Spidey (the 5* Peter Parker) covers and he's boosted in the current event. Even with just one each of green/blue he's kind of fun

mh, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

champed g4mora and she's a joy. also finished champing all my 3*'s (except for Elektra) and got the last cover i needed for c4ge so that's my next project (once i've champed this 2* hawkeye for my farm).

Mordy, Saturday, 26 August 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

FINALLY gonna champ Cloak & Dagger, yay

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

They're a lot of fun. I'm getting close to champing iceman. I'd love to champ Vulture he's like next level

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

There are so many good characters out there now, it's ridiculous.

In the current PvE, I started running Medusa/DocOck/Bl4de and it was just silly at points with the healing/AP gen/free attack tiles/tile buffing/oh look Bl4de is Bloodlusting, gg

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

i run medusa/grocket/g4mora in pve and pvp. they'll probably nerf it at some pt it's super dominant. i can regularly hit 900 pts in pvp using it

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

I rrrrreally need some Grocket and Medusa covers.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 7 September 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link

Medusa is nuts. I'm a couple of covers away on both Grocket and G4mora.

I champed 4 star Iron Fist a couple of days ago, now I'm champing lol Ghost Rider because I have an extra cover & because after the buff he's not as terrible.

Yeah, I'm gonna miss buffed Bl4de after this week.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 7 September 2017 10:01 (six years ago) link

In the Loki PvP, I am currently #16 in my slice.

Mordy is #15

lol

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

lol nice. i'm 11 points from 900. gonna hit it later tonight and shield until end of event.

Mordy, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link

I should have shielded, oops

Bye bye, 100 points of progress

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 8 September 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link

4/4/4 Medusa, time to play bonus hero roulette IMO

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 8 September 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

Nice. My C4ge is at 2-5-5 and I have the cp to buy the other but I dunno, six+ 4/5 star covers are a lot to give up for just one. He's very good but not game changing and I have lots of champed 4 stars already. So I dunno.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 9 September 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

no reason to rush c4ge imo esp since we just went through all his boosted events (the defenders) - we probably have some time until he's boosted again

Mordy, Saturday, 9 September 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

yeah that seems right

still trying to 270 ghost rider, having an extra cover expiring in 2 days but only at 241, it's looking bad for that cover, but I think I'll finish the 270'ing anyway & then draw the cps -> legendaries.

btw after having used my champed boosted war machine a lot this last week, I can say he really sucks & needs a buff. in a way he's like falcap: one good bomb (that would be even better if invisible tiles & protect tiles mattered in this game) & two lame abilities. green at 5 gives three countdown tiles blasts that suck even when buffed to 370+.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 9 September 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

my iceman is one cover away from being maxed (gonna get it during this lockjaw pve) and then i think i'm bonusing vulture to try and complete him soon. he's like the 4* IM40 and consequently probably going to be super important to the meta.

Mordy, Saturday, 9 September 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link


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