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so much to answer for

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 August 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

like, there's a direct line ime between SP's ridiculous libertarian shitbag politics and that recent Google manifesto, techbro culture was weaned on SP

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 August 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

It's the "we mock both sides!" crap that skewers the idea you should care at all about institutions or politics and makes people assume there are small differences or things are all, if not equally bad, just bad.

I have a friend who is relatively level-headed but if I made some point about the debates pre-election or a specific issue he'd mention "oh it's like X and Y, always complaining about.." where X and Y were whatever caricature of the candidates South Park had created. Yeah, no, you can't laugh off particular issues when depending on how votes go, it could mean survival or death for people that don't live they way you do. If you're white and straight and not in poverty and you're laughing off racial or sexual politics, fuck off

mh, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

I hear they're totally avoiding politics for their next season

i think it is smarter to focus on the characters more and this is their strength. storytelling focus more on the town itself and these characters we love. back to the heart music.

whenever they used a political topic, say BLM, school shootings, or Syrian refugees/Whole Foods(?), it felt exploitative. and not just of the fictional refugees living in a Whole Foods parking lot (makes you think!). it felt like an act of creative desperation. like Homer becoming a Hip Hop producer it feels like a contrivance to seem relevant.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 August 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

why change now, they've been doing that for 20+ years

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

trump's presidency basically turning america into a real life SP ep and oh NOW you want to "avoid politics"

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 11 August 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

haha yup

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

Anyway, fat Nazis

The Daily Stormer ran a story complaining that American neo-Nazis are too large to be taken seriously pic.twitter.com/FFwcgnTEjA

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) August 11, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

trump's presidency basically turning america into a real life SP ep and oh NOW you want to "avoid politics"

you have it the other way around. America has been acting like Trump for over two hundred years. Hillary lost cos she was a bad candidate and ran a bad campaign. the overall election was so negative that most people didn't vote, so only hardcore fans voted for their candidates, and the media wants you to believe that there has been a crazy paradigm shift to sell your eyeballs.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 August 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

I recommend this dietary regime for all american nazis

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

I'm with Οὖτις and Adam on the South Park thing

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 11 August 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

It might be 'smart' but it's smart as in smart-arse libertarian 13 year old boy smart

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 11 August 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

With a definite hard-edged elitism going on - there's a small group in the know, who are smart, and everyone else in the village is dumb

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 11 August 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

So there is nothing we could possibly gain from talking to the angry, dumb, adults - angry people/dumb people (the same) have nothing worthwhile to tell us

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 11 August 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

i think the thing w/south park is it's a show that makes me feel kinda bad for some reason, like how i felt reading the Gavin Mc1nnes era of Vice Magazine. which it bears a similarity to in how it kinda alt-ed all kinds of bigotry and seemed to think empathy was for suckers or i guess now cuckers.

nomar, Friday, 11 August 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

though i think it was more part of the shifting landscape than one of the main causes of it.

nomar, Friday, 11 August 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

angry people/dumb people (the same)

I call them 'anger dummies'.

how's life, Saturday, 12 August 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

I call the big one "fighty"

seven mambas (m bison), Saturday, 12 August 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link

my South Park anecdote -

one grad school summer i interned in Boulder, CO. i found a random craigslist place and thought everyone would be cool...actually i remember i already blogged about all this shit years ago on another thread. but to cut to the chase, they were all climate hoaxers, one of them told me that his biggest dream was to own a yacht, and south park was on 24/7. ever since then i associate SP with total dipshits

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

You guys watching this march on UVA?

horseshoe, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:12 (six years ago) link

Massive brawl breaks out, tiki torches thrown as #UniteTheRight reaches Jefferson monument in #Charlottesville. Chemicals dispersed pic.twitter.com/NsepwZC0Te

— Alex Rubinstein (@RealAlexRubi) August 12, 2017

horseshoe, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link

My hometown :(
http://wvtf.org/post/alt-right-rally-sparks-positive-action

sleeve, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link

Massive brawl breaks out, tiki torches thrown as #UniteTheRight reaches Jefferson monument in #Charlottesville. Chemicals dispersed pic.twitter.com/NsepwZC0Te

— Alex Rubinstein (@RealAlexRubi) August 12, 2017

sleeve, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link

Oops, sorry horseshoe, did not realize that was the same link

sleeve, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link

pretty sure i saw a nazi salute in the midst of that video

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:14 (six years ago) link

There are def Nazi salutes, chants of "blood and soil" and a woman tells a counter-protestor he "sounds like a n-----"

horseshoe, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link

a wapo reporter tweeted that the Nazi/Klan protestors pepper sprayed the counter protestors

horseshoe, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:21 (six years ago) link

Hope the judge who reinstated their permit is pleased about this.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link

White nationalist alt-right torchlit march going through UVA grounds: "you will not replace us" pic.twitter.com/QS8ebI9XOW

— Tim Dodson (@Tim_Dodson) August 12, 2017

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:25 (six years ago) link

creepy as fuck

anyone who knows any of these people should cut them out of their lives immediately and warn everyone they know about what terrible fucking people they are

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link

i don't think i know any alt right people. i don't really know hardly anyone anymore tbh. but if i did, i would write a letter to wherever they worked and tell their business owners that they're employing neo-nazis and that i would boycott the business until they were fired

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link

that'll show them, in my hypothetical universe

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link

i think you're right and i'm not sure if it would "work" in all cases but i'd say it's our responsibility to do it

the late great, Saturday, 12 August 2017 05:09 (six years ago) link

I've been advised by my security that #Charlottesville is too dangerous for me to speak at #UniteTheRight so I'll leave the war to the men

— Wife With A Purpose (@apurposefulwife) August 12, 2017

jfc the alt-right is fucked up

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 05:49 (six years ago) link

i guess i cannot judge, as a husband without a purpose

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

Always good to see anonymous fash accounts with a blue tick.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 12 August 2017 06:21 (six years ago) link

I can't believe I clicked on this thread tonight of all nights and saw a heated discussion about South Park smh

billstevejim, Saturday, 12 August 2017 06:31 (six years ago) link

Twitter feed is filled with lots of photos of these asshole. I hope leads to real life consequences for them, loss of jobs, public disgrace, etc.

Moodles, Saturday, 12 August 2017 06:34 (six years ago) link

The big rally is today. There are crazy pictures and videos on Twitter already.

horseshoe, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

i was surprised there weren't 100 new posts when i woke up today

apparently protesters and clergy have already been attacked with brass knuckles and bats??

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

i'm watching a live shot on MSNBC of a group of people beating a protester with signs, and zero police around

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

Wtf

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

Is there a good roundup of Tweets from this yet?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

trump has said nothing

ctrl+F for "Charlottesville" on breitbart and drudge report, nothing

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

xpost

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Charlottesville

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

also disturbing to see guns everywhere. virginia is an open carry state.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

Charlottesville just declared it an "Unlawful gathering", so perhaps that means the police will actually start doing something

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

Wapo has a piece

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 12 August 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

Gov McCauliffe declares state of emergency

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link


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