Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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MGS2 had a main enemy that was basically the Internet as a self-aware AI and it talked about the future of information, how there would be a "Flood of Information" too great for humans to deal with, how we would be inundated with half-truths, rumors, slander, "trivial information accumulating every second... never fading, always accessible", a world of "untested truths" and "junk data... slowing down social progress", a future where "everyone withdraws into their own gated community, afraid of a larger forum".

the AI felt a moral obligation to filter out that bad noise, to filter our data for us, to in effect censor us. during this whole time the soundtrack is doing weird spooky sweeping synths to make it clear: this is a supremely creepy solution to the problem of too much information.

he predicted all of that in 2001, a year before Friendster came out. i think i first played this in 2013 or 2014 or something and it has only gotten more and more true as time goes on. admittedly it's all stock cyberpunk or science fiction dystopian satire but that's part of MGS2's as action movies (hence having the composer from The Rock).

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 August 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

lol this is the "Patriot speech" by the AI:

http://i.imgur.com/jswxMum.jpg

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 August 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link

I wish I could experience video games again without having to sink 20-30 hours into them. Actually I think MGS1 & 2 are the only ones I'd want to revisit for the cutscenes alone. I haven't played them in over a decade but yeah they were remarkably prescient, and I'm grateful to Hideo Kojima for making them. MGS2 was where I first heard the word "meme."

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

The libertarian senator end boss from Metal Gear Rising is also worth checking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEM5hW6BMJA

devvvine, Friday, 11 August 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

I still need to play that game. I got distracted by Platinum's other releases

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Friday, 11 August 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

I stopped playing video games a long time ago, was MGS4 good? what about MGS5 - didn't Kojima step aside for that one?

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link

(I liked MGS3 fine but after being blown away by Sons of Liberty and fixated on that cliffhanger ending with the Patriots, I really wasn't in the mood for some goofy prequel romp. Trying to find & kill the super old sniper dude was cool.)

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

Snake Eater really felt like fucking Tarantino jacked the series for a game. SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE EAAAAAATERRRRRRRRR!!!

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

whoa holy shit this is exactly what i wanted... posting for posterity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5AunfmI8bs

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:22 (six years ago) link

Snake Eater might be the best James Bond game but worst Metal Gear. I love 5, some of the best moment to moment gameplay ever but the story was kinda left unfinished. Kojima was in charge but was alienated from the team by konami in the months before release.

devvvine, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

but MGS4 was good?

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

Never played 4, just watched all the cutscenes on youtube. Been a while but it does a better job than you'd think possible of tying up the loose ends of 2 and 3.

devvvine, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

tight, maybe ill watch the cutscenes, though i need to catch up...

Still astonished by how audacious Kojima was with replacing Snake with Raiden for the majority of MGS2. and this is after we had 2 or 3 months to play the demo disc that came with Zone of the Enders! (that's another great one I'm just remembering...) as a 9 year old I was really pissed off and confused when Snake wasn't showing back up, but the game & story were so compelling and interesting that I quickly forgot about all that...

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

Who was that Josh guy on the live Chicago show? Fucking terrible, forcing his hack stand up jokes about LA into a context where they made no sense, and he just kept doing it.

pretty sure he posts here dude

qualx, Saturday, 12 August 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link

I didn't even make it thru to that, their live shows are unbearable for me. they're not that funny and they suck on stage.

xp lmao

flappy bird, Saturday, 12 August 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link

Other than that guy this live show ep was waaaaaaaay better than before.

louie mensch (milo z), Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

I thought Josh Androsky was funny enough, but the part where he gleefully bragged about wishing violence on "a TERF" on twitter was a little disturbing.

JRN, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

https://vimeo.com/228966654

Video of the live show with the Street Fight guys.

Will's oddly-shaped head is as distracting as ever.

louie mensch (milo z), Saturday, 12 August 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

Got my tshirt today, happy birthday to me

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Saturday, 12 August 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

i'm afraid i've got a mild case of Menaker head :(

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 12 August 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

Xp yeah generally their live shows are weak imo. It really brings out the difference between podcasting and actually performing for an audience, suddenly it becomes painfully apparent that they are doing bits and they just come off as amateur Stand ups. Felix's bit about cubs fans was excellent though.

vs. the Street Fight Guys who are not very good on the regular show but seem to thrive in live appearances

louie mensch (milo z), Saturday, 12 August 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

Yeah, the Street Fight guys have had their show for about six years, and actually done stand up for a while, too

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Saturday, 12 August 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

lol Matt C wearing a big sloppy New Glarus Spotted Cow t shirt is too perfect

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

A true Wisconsin boy

Jackson Galactic Brain Meme (kingfish), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link

Spotted in Birmingham, cc @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE pic.twitter.com/BvIOq66vxY

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) August 13, 2017

louie mensch (milo z), Monday, 14 August 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

circle beard seems fundamentally incompatible with chapo fandom tbh

must be a false flag operation

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 14 August 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link

good timing for maybe the sincerest ep to date

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

Which one?

louie mensch (milo z), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

the international left ep from sunday

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

ah I missed that one, when it came up in my feed I thought it was a preview for one of the live bonus eps.

louie mensch (milo z), Monday, 14 August 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

happy to hear them listen to their guests

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

kind of boring though

President Keyes, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

needed more family court jokes

President Keyes, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

really nice change of pace imo after two straight live show episodes

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

the British guy fit in almost distressingly well

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

Interviews were definitely a bit dry but maybe bc impromptu. Could have used less abstraction.

I'm starting to feel like I have too many left podcasts, that thing where keeping up with infotainment starts to feel like work. Recently added Trillbilly Workers Party, which I like a lot, and Adam Johnson's media Crit podcast, which I also like a lot, but those plus Chapo, streetfight, intercepted, the dig, delete your account, Doug Henwood, whew!

yeah it's exhausting, i can only keep up with 4 at a time, including the Stern Show.

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

happy to skip out on RPG & live Chapo ep's though

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

Not to mention the extremely guilty pleasure of Cum Town.

that is one of the 4, yes

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

there is no such thing as a guilty pleasure btw, if you like something you like it. not going to bring up CT anymore

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

who is this choad, looks familiar

If you can't tell this guy that he looks like absolute dog shit, then truth is dead & there's no point in this website

Free @bashfulcoward pic.twitter.com/p4xelUlfKT

— Will 🐋 Menaker (@willmenaker) August 14, 2017

flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

He's like Alex Jones crossed with Boss Baby

louie mensch (milo z), Monday, 14 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

Are any of the other lefty podcasts funny? For serious takes I'd rather just read, given the 'radio' talent of most podcasters.

louie mensch (milo z), Monday, 14 August 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

The Dollop is my second fave probably though it's a very different beast

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

chuck is kinda funny on This Is Hell, but it's not 'comedy'

flippy bard (Will M.), Monday, 14 August 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link


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