Marvel Comics blabbery

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Looks like the Silver Sable / Felicia Hardy movie ("Silver and Black") is really happening: http://deadline.com/2017/08/silver-and-black-marvel-sony-movie-sicario-2-holmes-and-watson-bad-boys-3-release-dates-1202147448/

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I've read a few of the "Generations" issues so far (Jean Grey / Phoenix and Wolverine / All-New Wolverine).

Alex Alonso apparently said, "These stories do happen, they really count. They really matter. This isn't some alternate reality story or some time-travel story." – OK, but these seem like the definition of the one-shot "time-travel story" (and not much more)

The Wolverine ish is pretty good, and genuinely touching at the end (through Tom Taylor still can't write well in Logan's voice, IMO).

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

Also, they seem to be violating their own "compressed timeline" rules (re: "only 13 yrs. have passed since FF #1," or whatever); but I'm not complaining about that...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

Just skimmed the Secret Empire plotline (for background on the time-travel). Nutty stuff. Is the Marvel Universe "remade" every few years now? (Oh, and Black
Widow is dead? Puh-leeze...)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link

Welp, thats one less spoiler i have to mind now thanks

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

Whoops sorry :/

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

ah, no biggie. just hadn't read the last week or two of continuity; i think i'll be able to handle the shock

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 2 September 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

I can also now report there is a spicy/intriguing reveal at the end of the Thor (Jane F.) / Unworthy Thor (young Odinson) issue of "Generations" (...no spoilers!)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 2 September 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

The Hawkeye "Generations" is the best one yet -- and actually one of the best single issues of anything I've read in a while. Kelly Thompson does a great job of nailing the Kate / Clint verbal interplay; and in her portrayal of young Clint, accurately hearkens back to Clint as recognizable in the old days (e.g., the Mark Gruenwald series).

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So this is what Legacy is all about (big spoilers): http://www.cbr.com/how-marvel-legacy-changes-everything/

Not to judge a book by its online summary, but I don't see anything here that psyches me up about the current state of the Marvel U. Of course, it comes down to the quality of individual series, anyway; and unfortunately, I'm not sure what the "quality" ones are anymore.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 29 September 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

they’ve got to pull a Poochie with Old Man Logan now

mh, Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

I think we are due for a "wipe everything out and start over, this shot is too complicated" reboot in two years which, given marvel's cultural capital, is a level of mismanagement only matched by the us government

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link

Forbidden Planet in Glasgow had a special midnight opening for this, which seemed a bit ambitious.

Gunpowder Julius (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

people do midnight events for practically everything these days

I thought the Legacy event book was better than most of that type, but mostly because they let Jason Aaron script it (meaning, the dialogue and connective tissue between dictated plot points) with art that didn’t seem rote.

That’s praise of a very corporate construction, but if you didn’t feel invested in any characters before, nothing seemed very rousing. I’m hopeful they don’t do a back-to-basics Fantastic Four instead of the elder statesmen/young geniuses thread that culminated after Hickman’s run.

mh, Sunday, 1 October 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link

they’ve got to pull a Poochie with Old Man Logan now

O.M. Logan & OG Logan are probably gonna have a “Bub”-off (while Laura rolls her eyes in the background).

Something funny about these “soft reboots” is how they don’t necessarily affect the continuity of many of the series themselves (this point may have been made in the article). Even something as huge as the last Secret Wars was wiped from most characters’ memories; their lives resumed like nothing had happened; etc. So who are these complex rewrites of history “meant for”? Your average Marvel fan who’s more into backstory than character?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 1 October 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

aren't they pretty transparently efforts to "shake things up" and sell books since they've told every story literally hundreds of times for every character

Nhex, Sunday, 1 October 2017 03:54 (six years ago) link

the first thing I thought of with the Wolverine appearance (spoilers: he rolls up in a semi truck with BEER on the side) was the episode of Chappelle’s Show where the guy rolls up in a truck full of menthols he bought with his reparations money

mh, Sunday, 1 October 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

aren't they pretty transparently efforts to "shake things up" and sell books since they've told every story literally hundreds of times for every character

Oh, no doubt... I guess I'm wondering why they don't simply continue to "shake things up" by engaging top talent for interesting, creative, and offbeat work, as seemed to be the mission statement for a few years there.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 2 October 2017 04:21 (six years ago) link

sadly i suspect those books don't sell. at least, that's the excuse they love to give

Nhex, Monday, 2 October 2017 04:46 (six years ago) link

like i wonder how that Vision series did

Nhex, Monday, 2 October 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link

they're reissuing it in semi-prestige two-issues-in-one format now, so i assume reasonably well

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

luv2shake things up by returning to the status quo

god i wish marvel could just run the comics division as a loss-leading content farm for movie ideas - if they get one billion-dollar box-office smash out of a story adapted from the comics, they should be able to fund endless wolverine romance comics or whatever in perpetuity

actually, can we have a wolverine romance comic where old man logan and regular logan get it on

'i'm the best there is at what i do. and what i do... is very, very nice'

hah, that reminds me of the criticism of newspaper op-ed columns: most people only have a really good idea to launch a story every so often, but you've got to run a column every week regardless of the quality of the pitch

it's worse with serialized content, because all of the ideas in-between the good ones are just continuity grist for the mill

it's why the x-men have to sit around at the mansion and clean their rooms, go to the mall, or play baseball a few times a year. and they should.

mh, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

I would lol a lot if they revived The Crimson Dawn

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

you are a bad man and should feel bad

mh, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

hah, that reminds me of the criticism of newspaper op-ed columns: most people only have a really good idea to launch a story every so often, but you've got to run a column every week regardless of the quality of the pitch

who's the comics equivalent of david brooks, i wonder

i just read the crimson dawn wikipedia page and it is utterly impenetrable

it's chuck austen

mh, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

although it looks like jeph loeb wrote the crimson dawn junk, and he's another good candidate. he's also failed upwards stupendously

mh, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

chuck austen is a solid choice, yeah - and unlike the inexplicably successful loeb, he doesn't even have the screenplay for commando in his credits to burnish his reputation

scott lobdell maybe?

frank tieri?

Lobdell did ok with the between-event crap (I know DJP enjoys his Gen X stuff) but not so great with original ideas

I can't remember Tieri's stuff enough to care either way?

mh, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

John Byrne

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

Crimson Dawn was a Loeb/Lobdell twofer

The thing I liked about Lobdell's writing was how willing he was to throw every single plot idea he had in his head onto the page at any given time, making the X-Men stories into an interlocking series of subplots that would then hammer into big events in weird and sometimes unexpected (and sometimes unintentionally hilarious) ways. The problem is that half of his ideas were really dumb, but he was very good at juggling them right up until he wasn't.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

I drive my beer truck staight through your heart, Old Man Logan.

Mike Dixn, Monday, 2 October 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxAo6KhBFFs

Nhex, Monday, 2 October 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile, some really good artwork (by Paolo Villanelli) in the "Ms. Marvel / Ms. Marvel" issue of Generations.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

Ms. Marvel art is consistently really top-notch

rb (soda), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

so that northrup comic book then

Dr Keith Assblow (stevie), Friday, 6 October 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

This whole Marvel Legacy turn in the past few years is pretty funny when you consider the years that many of the zombies ragged DC comics for years about having multiple versions of the same character and a constantly changing 'universe'.

earlnash, Monday, 9 October 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

When the universe is so pliable that Franklin Richards or an Infinity Gem can remake it on a whim -- and this happens biannually -- it begins to feel like there's nothing at stake.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 05:34 (six years ago) link

...sorry, make that "Cosmic Cube," not Infinity Gem.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

So I've blasted through most of the first six months of All-New, All-Different material, and the reports that things went severely downhill after Secret Wars has me scratching my head. The quality is really quite high on average (the worst I'd say is that some of the books are pretty inessential). Maybe it's just like Civil War II people were complaining about? Haven't made it that far yet, so we'll see.

Anyway. I mostly just wanted to mention that Spider-Woman is really, really good so far. The pregnancy storyline legit got me a little choked up.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

There was great AN/AD stuff, and CWII did end up sidetracking it without recovery (IMO). I loved (pre-sidetrack) Spider-Woman, and the pregnancy storyline in particular.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 13 November 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

I, too, enjoy the Spider-Woman

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

OK, in this crazy digital sale I've bought the first 2 vols each of Spider-Woman, Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool. What else is worth it?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

Vision is great, as is Waid's short run on Black Widow, which reads really nicely on the "guided view" part of the app.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

Vision I have, and it was wonderful. Black Widow I will investigate. Cheers!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link


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