Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

Are any of the other lefty podcasts funny? For serious takes I'd rather just read, given the 'radio' talent of most podcasters.

The Dollop is my second fave probably though it's a very different beast

chuck is kinda funny on This Is Hell, but it's not 'comedy'

is streetfight radio good?

that pic is Harlan Hill, dweeb who most recently tweeted a picture of a mushroom cloud captioned 'North Korea must be EXTERMINATED!'

been meaning to check This Is Hell

Streetfight is kind of rambling and a little silly but the hosts are very likeable and there is some gold here and there. i usually just tune in when i'm caught up with everything else. and i'll prob make a point to catch them live when they come through town.

Depending on your opinion of Matt Taibbi and Alex Pareene, there's the Tarfu Report. The most recent ep with David Rees was pretty good.

There's Jeb Lund's This Week in Atrocity who had on Paul F Tompkins a few days ago, where Paul was talking political stuff in a way he never usually does

I found that boring tbh, he's just a typical "trump is bad" lib really

Amber's NPR voice interviewing the French guy is hilarious, given how often her appearances are stoned+crass.

I enjoyed the fact that she led the episode, especially as she's the only one who can pronounce anything in French at all

weird that the NK must be exterminated guy looks just like a wite kim jong un

he looks like someone tried to paint a portrait of ricky gervais from memory onto an egg

Latest premium ep was posted to the public feed, and it's a doozy, talking to Shuja Haider about Charlottesville

https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/unlocked-episode-133-antifap-feat-shuja-haider-81717

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/jebediah-springfield.jpg

you'd never guess this was recorded before the Fey Weekend Update bit aired

Mande ep was slight but fun. I gather Leslie Lee III is on this week.

how long has Amber been off twitter? i unfollowed her sometime during the election but just went to follow back and she was gone

so not gonna happen

she's been off for a while, several months at least

amber otm

did we acknowledge anywhere on ILX the whole Freddy DeBoer situation this week

deboer being a total nightmare person didn't surprise me in particular

what happened? saw aftermath but couldn't piece it together. seems he had a mental break of some kind?

yeah i only was vaguely aware of whatever it was, what happened

this was sort of illuminating but i still don't get what happened: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/6uokm9/can_someone_explain_all_the_leftist_twitter_drama/

more or less:

Freddie accused someone from Viewpoint Mag of date rape. Then a bunch of people started dragging on Amber, Angela Nagle, and Zero Books for their takes on antifa . And Katie Harper ranted for hours....

Deboer got into a tiff with Malcom Harris after Harris retweeted a link to an article criticizing Deboer and some other writers. Deboer flipped out and baselessly accused Harris of rape then deleted all of his tweets. He subsequently wrote a blog post announcing that he was leaving social media and getting help for his mental health problems. He did not apologize for the accusations.

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this is callous but i don't really buy deBoer's mental illness thing, he's just an angry self-righteous dick. like he didn't even apologize to malcolm harris or retract his accusation

so not gonna happen

Looool

xp- like if you baselessly slimed someone in a manic episode, wouldn't you retract the accusation once you'd calmed down?

when Sady Doyle is asking for folks to lay off BONERS while he's seeking inpatient care, I'm inclined to buy in. There was also some decent back-and-forth in the comments on this LGM thread re: asshole behavior and mental illness: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/08/on-freddie

He can be mentally ill AND a self-righteous dick

Maybe he believes what he said about Malcolm Harris and only acknowledges that, in the absence of proof, it was inappropriate for him to talk about it. He must have been referring to a specific incident

Also Freddie DeBoer, Amber A'Lee Frost, and Angela Nagle are all much more interesting than Malcolm Harris.

Oh god

Freddie DeBoer is not interesting.

yeah hey speaking of which i saw Angela Nagle get a lot of heat on left twitter about her book, wtf was that all about? she's giving a platform to fascism by writing about it? that's ridiculous. i was just disappointed that the book was so short & full of typos as someone pointed out way upthread. i remember someone called her transphobic - what?

The typos were apparently due to the initial run going out with the wrong copy or some such, it was fixed after the first 5000 or something.

I would think the line against Nagle is her stance against no-platforming, which tbh I think is fairly argued on her part

gotcha

People also seemed object to her dispassioante analysis of the factors that contributed to the rise of the alt right, claiming that she "blamed" the excesses of the social justice left for them and things like that

I don't buy that either tbh

Me neither. I liked the book a lot.

Also Freddie DeBoer, Amber A'Lee Frost, and Angela Nagle are all much more interesting than Malcolm Harris.

― Treeship, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:24 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jesus christ

i now regret knowing about any of this

Also Freddie DeBoer, Amber A'Lee Frost, and Angela Nagle are all much more interesting than Malcolm Harris.

― Treeship, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:24 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't even like Malcolm Harris, but i felt bad for him. especially hypocritical of FdB, who has written this type of shpiel a million times:

I read about the PWR BTTM accusations. They’re disturbing. I take them seriously. But these guys have had their careers erased overnight, and the idea that we have any responsibility to give them the chance to defend themselves is treated like you took part in their alleged crimes. You simply cannot say, in polite society, “basic fairness requires us to avoid a rush to judgment and to give people the right to respond to accusations.” To do so gets you lumped in with the criminals. Like a friend of mine said, “the only acceptable reaction to an accusation is enthusiastic and unqualified acceptance."

to have lobbed that at him

I believe I saw Leslie Lee III have a twitter exchange w Keith Ellison actually July 2016 sometime. I forget how it started but Ellison tried to convince him to vote for Hillary, reminding him that the Supreme Court was a thing, to no avail of course he voted for Stein ultimately.

Lmao so angela nagle is a Spiked writer who done played everyone- most spectacularly Mr Chapo, although perhaps there's a slight excuse with them being American and not picking up on some British Isles nuances.

My favourite bit is when she sneers at young women who claim to have ptsd despite not having been in a war- gee, I can't think of any highly traumatic experience frequently suffered by young women, drawing a complete blank here, they must just be hysterical hypochondriacs.

Angela nagl, basically

Also (and just jotting notes here really) broader issue of right wingers both fetishising military and police and at the same time making ridicule of ptsd a cornerstone of their rhetoric- <puzzled face emoji>

all these people are assholes and the worst to attach leftism to

well idk any shit about amber i think she's fine

I haven't taken issue with anything any of the main dry folk have said save Felix.

I have no idea what this Nagle stuff is about.