Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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It's the coincidence that Diane's sister's husband would be normally be referred to as a brother-in-law. That sister's husband is Dougie Jones, who we knew to be Cooper. Cooper worked in law enforcement alongside Diane, and throughout the original series Cooper and Harry refer to each other as 'brothers' due to this bond.

Don't tell me, it's not productive to analyse Lynch in this way. I fucking give up with this thread.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link

Ok so the answer to my question is... yes

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 09:59 (six years ago) link

just read this in a random lynch interview, sounds a bit like bobby & his dad in the woods:

Lynch was born in Missoula, Montana in 1946, and brought up in various places around the US, depending on where his father's job as a research scientist for the Department of Agriculture took him.

"I think his happiest time," Lynch says of his dad, "was when he had the Boise National Experimental Forest. A whole forest to experiment with! Things like erosion, bugs – so many different kinds of bugs – disease … And I loved going into that wood. There were little stands with little houses on the stands, and you'd open up the door and there'd be all kinds of weather equipment in there – little read-outs. It was really kind of great."

angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

Wow, good find. That adds even more resonance to the scenes between the Briggses.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link

Both are so heartwarming and emotional at first - Bobby and Shelly's daughter may be in a bad way, but at least they're still together and (presumably!) married, after all these years.

Yeah that seemed like two parents who are definitely not together but are still willing to work together to help their daughter. I don't know if there's any indication (waiting for someone to mention a line where it was explicit) that they were ever married.

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

Not a line, but Amick was credited as Shelly Briggs.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

I stand corrected

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

Things like that drive me a little crazy for reasons that aren't entirely rational. Like, it was a significant enough detail that (iirc) they didn't credit her as such until she and Bobby had a scene together, but then it's never directly addressed in the text so...what's the point? Maybe it'll be brought up before the end.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

I think it was leaving it vague enough that they could show she had a daughter and leave it at that for a couple episodes while keeping some dramatic tension for the moment when it's revealed who her dad is

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

The way that scene played, it seemed pretty clear to me that Bobby and Shelly have been divorced for a long time. I like the ways the show makes us try to figure out what's happened to the original cast characters during the last 25 years without connecting every dot. Ed and Nadine are both wearing wedding bands, so I assume they're still married to each other, though maybe not living together. Ed and Norma are clearly no longer an item, though perhaps that piece of paper Ed burned during the closing credits was a note Norma slipped into his take-out order of chicken soup.

Brad C., Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

This is probably completely immaterial wrt anything major that's happened or will happen, but...do we know anything at all about Shelly's family? Like, that was one weird bit in the original series, when Cooper was telling the trio of girls who were being stalked by Windom Earle to stay with their parents or whatever and I realized that I don't think Shelly's parents were ever even mentioned prior to that.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

I know in retrospect those scenes indicate divorce/amicable separation, but I totally fell for it in both cases. But that's beside the point - the way they rush up to greet their lovers was so jarring and sudden, the foundation of reality is shaky in the RR.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

Carl called her Shelly Briggs btw

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

We've only known Shelly by her married names. First married at 17 after dropping out of the 11th grade... I think we're supposed to infer her previous family life from there.

sciatica, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

Shelly has no backstory as such because she was born in a shower of gold fully formed as a waitress at the RR

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

definitely some patriarchal thing, she's never had parents, only husbands

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

Ehh, Norma's been her "mom" for decades now.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

true!

mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

Newest theory: in the magical chromatic scheme of twin peaks, the only match for RED is GREEN. This is how Shelly's new beau will meet his end:

"Have you ever studied your hand?"

"Too fackin' right I 'ave, ya dozy berk, that's aaar come I'm gonna smash yer fackin' boat race in wiv it!"

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

Window washer was definitely a woodsman. Worried for Gordon

flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

Sounded like there were voices in the screeching sounds (though I'll admit this show makes you hear and see stuff in anything)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

I totally assumed window-washer was the Jumping Man

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

I immediately knew I recognized that British kid from somewhere and I finally remembered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM

daavid, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

Whatever else, it's clear that the squeegee-wielder didn't know the first thing about the mechanics of window washing.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

Would make sense given the sounds & where the scene goes but I think he's yet to come xxp

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

He and Louie "Birdsong" Budway are the only two original cast members yet to appear I think, I joked on twitter that they would appear together along with all the other non-white characters, in a scene set in a phone box

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

I also saw somewhere that there are only 19 actors yet to come on the cast list - any big ones? Apart from vedder obv

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

Meg Foster and Charlene Yi are the only non-Vedder names I recognize on the cast list that we haven't seen yet. There are so many I'd forgotten had already made their 90-second cameo!

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

Meg Foster appeared already!

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

Okay, just looked that up and I am completely unsurprised that I failed to recognize her.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

It was also in the most cameo-heavy stretch of the return, my favourite being richard chamberlain as one of at least 4 bills in this thing

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

btw this and one of the replies to it are the best thing I've seen on tp twitter today ito making a connection that might actually hold water, pardon the pun

So this is the water, and this is the well? pic.twitter.com/an1YLvtAYW

— Counter.Esperanto (@c_esperanto) August 15, 2017

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

It's in the replies there, too, but the round window Andy got a view through instantly reminded me of this:

https://i1.wp.com/ozgeburcaka.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/t45.png?resize=600%2C400

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

Kinda miss the box tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

I miss Sam & Tracy

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

I did not fully appreciate what a magnificent old man face Harry Goaz had developed until the shots of him in the White Lodge.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

Yeah the box was great. That room was one of Lynch's most perfect pieces of production design.

Cake hawn. (jed_), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

<3

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

I would probably pay a couple hundred dollars for a large-scale coffee table book of Twin Peaks stills.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

The b/w really helped bring out a different shade of him xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

xp fuck yeah

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

i would also probably pay about $30 for a large scale coffee table book of twin peaks stills, if they wanted to make it a little less expensive

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

there's something so powerful about seeing a character entirely divorced from the supernatural components of the show suddenly seated right at the center of them

Evan R, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

The long awkward silence and the expression on everyone's face when Gordon mentioned his Monica Bellucci dream was hilarious. As was the squeegee frankly.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

^yes. Chrysta Bell was especially good there, it's a nice evolution of the "I had a dream"->"oh boy, here we go" lynch scene, seen previously in mulholland dr and original peaks

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

I also just love ask the offbeat framing involved in reintroducing the encounter with Jeffries: presenting the scene as a memory recollected in a dream, and then redoubled through Cole's narration, with the squeegee attack weirdly suggesting the fragility of any boundary between inside and outside.

one way street, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

*"I also just love all the offbeat framing," I mean

one way street, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

it's uncanny how well Louie's scenes with Lynch (especially his forst scene) presaged The Return

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link


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