where do republicans end and nazis begin?
america is racist as fuc and i'm sure there are a lot of people who don't want to see confederate 'heritage' discarded, but . . . nazis? i mean straight up people carrying nazi flags and chanting about jews and blood and soil?
i'd like to think that's fucking finally a step too far, but maybe i'm wrong. apparently it's not too much for paul ryan
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link
hey come on now Ryan said some *very* strong words
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link
before putting Trump's dick back in his mouth
The Rise of the Valkyries: In the alt-right, women are the future, and the problem, by Seyward Darby.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link
This guy is very smart
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2017/06/29/skin-in-the-game-how-antisemitism-animates-white-nationalism/#sthash.GEZGMCWg.dpbs
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link
all you libtards are just sensitive flowers
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/daily-caller-compilation-cars-plowing-into-protesters
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link
the anti-trump logo thing is stupid tbh, plain old swastika is more impactful and it's not like the problem is limited to one powerful dumbass
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link
A lot of those dudes looked like average college students.. not meathead brawlers OR 4chan shut ins. This shouldn't be shocking to me but it was.
what you have to understand is that college students almost never have ideas when they get to college and they are very emotional and typically kind of dumb
― j., Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
idk, i feel like 'nazis are bad' is an idea that's been pretty strong and well-distributed for the last 80 years or so
i don't doubt that they're dumb/emotional, but it takes a little extra to chant 'jews will not replace us'
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link
it gets passed down generation to generation a lot too, esp in the South. doesn't matter if the racist beliefs are more benign when presented to kids, there's always someone who can take that seed and push them where their parents/grandparents resisted going. esp in college.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link
for example, the older dude who oversaw the horrific beating in the Charlottesvile parking lot - 2 or 3 of these dudes have been ID'd as well as him, he got kicked out of the military for stealing guns and giving them to the KKK (see Shaun King tweets)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link
the way King patiently and persistently cascaded those pictures across the internet was fantastic. it's 2017, wait long enough and you'll be IDed for shit like this.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link
Dan thx for the article - good stuff
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
you tweet CNN reporter getting hit by a train, i say "Trump's dad was arrested at a KKK riot in 1927"
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link
this is pretty good. shows car attack and aftermath though so *warning*. but just as a document its pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link
'
huh so we got to the "Brandon dates a racist" arc in season 3 and I was actually kind of struck by how well it was handled/depicted (in contrast to the S1 "Brandon meets a black neighbor" episode). His girlfriend drops a number of snide comments - no n-words or overt slurs but plenty of subtle shade-throwing at Brandon's black boss, homeless people, etc. The last straw for Brandon is (of course) when she says some snarky anti-semitic shit about Andrea behind her back. Brandon actually references the Rodney King riots (and not even for the first time!), calls himself "a liberal kind of person", and, after initially trying to say he's willing to set aside their political differences, tells her to get lost and that it doesn't matter how well they get along, how attracted they are to each other. I had totally forgotten this storyline, was kind of surprising that it wasn't as super-clumsy as some of the other contemporary references.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link
plz ignore above post, self-generated by Zing
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link
http://www.kare11.com/news/fargo-man-pro-white-activist-disowned-from-father-speaks-out/464509393
I am not usually a person who advocates watching videos associated with news stories but this one is low-key amazing. Just a man on camera, slowly and methodically saying really, really dumb things
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHUypPuVwAANoaY.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
barf at that^fake news->no YOU'RE fake newsalt-right->what about the alt-left??civil rights movement for blacks, LGBT et->ok what about civil rights movement for whites???
no real thoughts or ideas. just simplistic reactionary childish bullshit.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
was barfing at DJP's link but applies to Josh's too
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
I think this quote sums up everything I find sad and pathetic about these people:
"As far as the term white supremacist goes, in my view anybody that thinks white people don't need advocacy, they're the white supremacists," Tefft said.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
I was about to post that quote. And then he sort of gives a "so there"! shrug at the end.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
no YOU'RE sad and pathetic!
j/k
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
when he's finally impeached or rage quits or whatever's gonna happen i hope people can resist the temptation to call 3Ks "alt-pres"
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
is it wrong that my first thought about this was "What would Aldo the Apache do"
https://t.co/qd5XHrS4GC
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
i wish everyone would just calm down about all this. erik had some friends over at the family winery and okay maybe things got a little out of hand, nobody's perfect
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
Have some joy.
Too good, Christopher Cantwell, one of the #Charlottesville neo-nazis cries his eyes out at threat of arrest https://t.co/XteAzcofSa— Henry Langston (@Henry_Langston) August 16, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
is that one of the murderous parking lot guys?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
lol @ we spout violence and act tough online but we're actually pussies and we're just funs-ing around online
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
no he's the subject of the Vice documentary making the rounds
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
luv2see crying nazis, more tears pls
― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
bottle em up and sell them at Wawa
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
I'd totally buy a Nazi tears 12 pack
Max Bialystock: There, there. Franz Liebkind: Where? Where?
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
that vice coverage is so weird. from the channel that brought us gavin mcinnes and american apparel ads.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
otm
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
These guys looked very Brooklyn 2010
― Treeship, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
yeah really, and actually i would love for nu-Vice to go hard at Gavin, considering i think they bear some responsibility for the alt-right. unless they surprise me, it's never gonna happen though.
― nomar, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
vice nazi crybaby is like timothy treadwell's evil cousin
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
It's a very different media company than it was
― Treeship, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
man we need some progressive brewery to get on this ASAP
― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
The thing about the rebranding of Vice is a) it was less than 10 years ago, b) they wouldn't have had the luxury of doing it had they not ridden Gavin's outlook into a giant pile of VC money, and c) there are more than 2 media companies out there, meaning I can get information from sources where it isn't a confirmed fact that one of the cofounders is now giving talks promoting white supremacy.
If Vice is still around 50 years from now fighting the good fight, I may give them another chance as I lay in my bed in the nursing home.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
Cantwell: "If I was a violent guy, you would have heard about it by now"
30 seconds earlier...
"I've been engaged in violence, I have"
― jmm, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
they made their money on a platform of cloaking bigotry in hipster disguise and actual racism in the disguise of ironic racism. they continue to profit on the purported "edginess" of their early days. those early mags which were piled up for free strategically in certain neighborhoods in L.A., you start to wonder if Gavin wasn't trying to insert racist ideology at a just-above-subconscious level. you start to wonder if it worked on particularly impressionable types.
― nomar, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
lmao that gavin is "catholic" now
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
wonder if Gavin wasn't trying to insert racist ideology at a just-above-subconscious level. you start to wonder if it worked on particularly impressionable types.
^^ive enjoyed some of Vice's work since Gavin left but nomar def otm here.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
space nursing home. it'll be a space nursing home
― j., Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
local angle on this crap: an experienced litigator turns out to be head of racist metal label
http://www.citypages.com/music/one-minneapolis-lawyers-neo-nazi-record-label-and-the-fight-to-shut-it-down/440595353
(checking his firm's website, his presence has already been removed hmmm)
― goole, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
xp: damn skippy it will be a space nursing home
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link