Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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in dream Cole has

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

Without you my life has become
A hangover without end
A movie made for TV
Bad dialogue, bad acting, no interest
Too long with no story and no sex

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

I was thinking how striking it is that lynch keeps reusing the shot of the screaming girl from the pilot - that actor was never credited and as far as I'm aware nobody knows who she is.

Also occurred to me that we've had two episodes in a row now where characters have spoken in weird rhyming couplets: "a wrong has been made right and the sun is shining bright" and "she smiles, she dies, she disappears before their eyes". Reminds me of MIKE and BOB in the original series.

These are possibly not v interesting thoughts, I'm off sick today & this is what's come to my mind while drifting in & out of sleep & listening to the hurley archive (after not sleeping at all last night)

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

there's something so powerful about seeing a character entirely divorced from the supernatural components of the show suddenly seated right at the center of them

Yes and I feel the same about Naido suddenly existing in Twin Peaks

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

Still got 11 episodes to go of season 2. So far it hasn't been anywhere close to the fall from grace I was anticipating. So glad I went for it, I was expecting season 2 to be mostly awful.

Mike is so cool, I want to be like him when I grow older.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

as soon as the James/Evelyn story is introduced, it goes way off the rails for a few episodes. the Diane Keaton episode is the nadir. i agree that most of season 2 is fantastic - the finale is my favorite episode of the original series by far.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

finale of the original show is a high water mark for television in general. it's unlike any previous episode of the show IMO

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

I mean when Cooper enters the Black Lodge and those strobes are going, the Man from Another Place is just staring at him as Jimmy Scott sings that Sycamore song... and then cutting back to Cooper wide-eyed, lights flashing... my god.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

It does stand alone from the rest of the show, from beginning to end, a tonal masterpiece

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

yes, yes, and yes

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

I don't think flappy bird's friends are crazy. I do think there's a degree of condescension in the treatment of Andy and Lucy.

It's actually why I was so pleased that Andy was given something noble and commanding to do and I think that Lynch's decision to do that one thing is an acknowledgement of that prior condescension.

Cake hawn. (jed_), Thursday, 17 August 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I kind of felt there was something sour in his treatment of A+L this season. Though I can't provide any evidence.

RE: Diane. I'm not sure she is lying about Jane-E - surely it's not the sort of thing she can hope to succedfully lie about? Cole must know the biographies of everyone he works with, and her relationship to Jane-E must be documented someehow. Unless it's a performative lie of some sort, and they both know she lying (...and knows he knows she knows...).

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 17 August 2017 07:14 (six years ago) link

Feel like Cole could've been more helpful to the Las Vegas office and told them Jane's name too. Although then we wouldn't have had one of the funniest moments in the series.

angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Thursday, 17 August 2017 08:17 (six years ago) link

I'm not saying that watching Andy and Lucy buying furniture online has been riveting but I think they're playing with the ambiguity a bit - whether this represents domestic bliss or just a sense of boredom and emptiness for a couple whose lives haven't moved on much in 25 years. Lucy's expression when Andy came back in the last episode suggested the former.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 August 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link

@Dowd. Unless we know who Diane was in touch with w/ the text messages, what that connection is, she's 'suspect' imo. Didn't they bring her in the group in the first place to be able to keep an eye on her, Albert somehow intercepting her messages?

You are right about it being a lie that would have to come to light v quickly though. I don't know.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 August 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link

I feel like there's another shoe yet to drop with the Diane stuff - they've made sure both we and the Feds are acutely aware that Diane is expecting to have to tell them about vegas, so her surprise in that scene pretty much has to be forced and everyone knows it, and yet...

Anyway I don't think she's lying about them being sisters obv, I've been telling everyone they were this whole time. I predicted this partly from plot mechanics/clues (the initial E, the fact the script conspicuously kept her from seeing the ring when everyone else did) but also because of the emotional logic. It's like something the Diane podcast said about the late s2 plotline of ben being donna's dad & how it confirms something we already know: she & Audrey are sisters, of course they fucking are, we knew it in our hearts all along

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 17 August 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link

Andy and Lucy are buying that furniture because Wally Brando is allowing his parents to turn his childhood bedroom into a study for the two of them

looks like domestic bliss to me

Brad C., Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:26 (six years ago) link

I'm nervous about Andy's vision of the phone light blinking and Lucy staring at something. It's almost embarrassing how much I don't want anything horrible to happen to these characters.

Chris L, Thursday, 17 August 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

one thing I realized yesterday is that Coop-as-Dougie is very reminiscent of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs and the overall SubGenius message. He is the very personification of the generic and literally thoughtless businessman who coasts through life on pure luck that verges on the beatific. I have no idea if this was somehow an influence on Lynch and Frost, but the parallels are very strong.

Moodles, Thursday, 17 August 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

Can see Frost being a big Subgenius dude and probs a Beefheart fan lol

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 17 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

blinking phone light = Philip Jeffries calling

imagine if Lynch got an outtake from The Man Who Fell to Earth

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 17 August 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

jesus

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

wtf

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

fuck

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

cool interview with lynch about sound design

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/arts/television/david-lynch-twin-peaks-interview.html?_r=0&referer=https://t.co/EY9kHXlmlG?amp=1

maura, Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

Came in here to post this list of extraneous characters, but man that is horrible news re Lindholm

ATTN hard core #twinpeaks nerds: this is my breakdown of the goings-on in that one Roadhouse booth (the "Frank" Booth). Enjoy. Will update. pic.twitter.com/R5g01HqKyA

— Scott Prendergast (@ScottyTheP) August 17, 2017

Brakhage, Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

Talks of zebra, laughs about penguin.

Moodles, Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

Forgot to say I enjoyed the PABST BLUE RIBBON neon in the bar where Sarah had her altercation.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 18 August 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link

Paula: No longer has her sweater. :(

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Friday, 18 August 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

holy shit the "Frank Booth"

flappy bird, Friday, 18 August 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

kinda hoping all that booth stuff builds up to something interesting, it'd be odd if it was only random tidbits of plotline floating around but hey it's a david lynch show

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 18 August 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

i hope Sky Ferreira makes another appearance, perhaps serving burgers

flappy bird, Friday, 18 August 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link

Haha, somebody pointed out that Chad got arrested just as all the other cops were getting ready to eat lunch in the police station meeting room!

Dan I., Friday, 18 August 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

but that's not true Andy was laying out lunchboxes to put the sandwiches in so they can take them out of the meeting room just sayin lol

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 18 August 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Roadhouse scenes are great

https://media.giphy.com/media/26n6RyK9FSHYDK32U/giphy.gif

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile

“You're still with me. That's good.”#UGG @Kyle_MacLachlan #TwinPeaks pic.twitter.com/IAdZwqD3nE

— Twin Peaks 🤦🏼‍♀️ (@ThatsOurWaldo) August 18, 2017

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

honest question y'all: do ppl think we get True Coop back before like, the very last minute of the show or nah? tbh i'm fine if they dont because the story has been so compelling regardless. but based on the opening scene of part 1, with Coop in the White Lodge (where he ostensibly has never been) he's gonna be back at some point i think.

extremely amy dunne voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

can't wait for the episode where Lynch and Frost defy expectations and begins an episode with Coop popping back to consciousness, exclaiming "Hey, I could use a coffee. What's going on in Twin Peaks?"

mh, Friday, 18 August 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

based on no information whatsoever i'm guessing he'll be somewhat restored for the final two episodes

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

I'm starting to think no, True Coop is gone for good

my interpretation of the opening scene of part 1 is that it hasn't happened yet, and that Dougie at some point will be drawn into the White Lodge and that exchange will take place, ostensibly during a moment of crisis when BOB is threatening the White Lodge

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 August 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

the magic smoke will speak to him like it did Andy

mh, Friday, 18 August 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

I predict a really sad scene where he has to leave his vegas family

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 18 August 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

I predict a hilariously tense scene between Janey-E and Diane

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 August 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

based on the tone of voice in that White Lodge scene it was definitely True Coop and not dougie tho

extremely amy dunne voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 18 August 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

thats really the only reason for my belief. otherwise it would seem totally feasible that he was never coming back

extremely amy dunne voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 18 August 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

Depends what's meant by "true coop" but yeah I think we'll see him closer to the way he was before he went through the electrical socket at some point. There's also the shit of him driving in the trailer.

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 18 August 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

*shot lol

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 18 August 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

I'm hoping for a sweet denouement of True Coop asking Janey-E out for a date. And then a mechanical bird eating a bug.

I had to rewatch it but yeah you're right he seems/acts/talks like OG Coop in that scene so idk

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 August 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link


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