the alt-right

The reason people (including me) are pissed at the ACLU in this instance is not because the march happened, but because the ACLU sued to allow it to happen where it happened, and not at some more controllable park the city wanted it to happen at.

very very otm, my sentiments exactly

I don't know enough law to have an opinion on that "controllable" stuff, but don't we wail when protestors at the GOP convention, for example, are confined to yelling in a pen 3 blocks away?

especially Ice Cube's "When Will They Shoot?"

such a monster, this track

xp fair point but this was another public park afaik

there's going to be a mass shooting at a protest of some kind eventually and it's going to be extremely grim and horrific

this seems inevitable and tbf I'm kinda surprised it hasn't happened already. ditto for sporting events.

Well, maybe congressional sporting events.

The guy who shot five police in Dallas did so at the end of a protest.

targeted police killings kind of different imo

(or, at least, I don't think that's what global tetra was thinking of)

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/equality-justice-and-first-amendment

oh great

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHYB0RDVoAAlFyN.jpg:large

It's all we'll and good that no shots were fired over the weekend, but if these militias did open fire, what the heck would the cops have done being so out gunned?

They would have rolled in their armored personnel carriers. The idea that "the police are outgunned" is a bunch of bullshit. Go read some articles about the militarization of US police departments. The shit police departments have spent their money on this century is fucking terrifying.

Nazis coming to town? Here's a positive and creative response. #Resist pic.twitter.com/gcrHagYtJW

— Cleve Jones (@CleveJones1) August 16, 2017

this imgur gallery and its popularity (front page, 2,874 upvotes, only 274 downs) is telling. yes, imgur/reddit are populated by a bunch of severe assholes, but i think a lot more people in the U.S. think about the world in this way than we'd like to admit

http://imgur.com/gallery/GLVXs

Very interesting, I just learned that apparently there is a relatively well known Civil War monument somewhere in Chicago, but it's dedicated to confederates who died in a POW camp here, and was ordered erected in the late 1800s by Pres. Cleveland in an effort to heal divisions. I saw it called "the largest mass grave in the Western Hemisphere." (4000 dead). It's in a private cemetery with some famous neighbors:

Oak Woods Cemetery is the final resting place for Harold Washington, Chicago's first black mayor; Jesse Owens, the runner who upstaged Adolf Hitler and Nazis by winning four gold medals at the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin; and civil rights leader Ida B. Wells, among many others.

juggalos are our comrades now, sorry

commie juggalo internet is cooler than anything ive ever done ever pic.twitter.com/enDuSTXUzN

— a (@AeTBench) November 30, 2016

"I'm prepared for civil war, civil unrest, EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) attack from North Korea, Russia, invasion from a foreign government, my own government turning its guns against the people in an effort to disarm," says Hill, a 42-year-old paralegal who prefers the moniker "General Bloodagent" when leading the group he founded in 2008.

His is one of an estimated 165 armed anti-government militias currently operating in the United States. Their exact goals vary, but they are largely united by a distrust of government, a strong belief in individual liberties such as the right to bear arms, and, since last year's presidential campaign, an affinity with Donald Trump.

https://repubhub.icopyright.net/freePost.act?tag=3.14122?icx_id=20170817.doc-rm4pg

Still weird to me that the casino huckster guy captured the imaginations of all these kinds of people.

JFC @ General Bloodanus

jfc my girlfriend's from jackson, ga and her folks live there. that place suuuucks

my best friend from college is from Jackson and he always talks about what a backwards hellhole it is. the downtown area is really pretty, though; that's where they film the Stranger Things in-town scenes

i picture General Bloodagent as Henry Gibson in The Blues Brothers

yeah it definitely has its quaint parts. just lotsa bumper stickers feat. cartoon zombie confederate soldiers waving the flag

like her younger brother who's kind of stuck there is an arty kid who went to scad and smokes weed but is like one bad muni govt experience from being "fergit, hell"

many xposts but yeah i'm terrified of some ar15 toting manaiac coming to the next big protest and unloading. something like that almost happened in mpls, some 4chan morons drove to town specifically to shoot up a BLM encampment. thankfully nobody died

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Permit-for-right-wing-Crissy-Field-rally-to-get-11825139.php

God bless the family and the memory of Johnny Cash pic.twitter.com/y2pfGXZleJ

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) August 17, 2017

Recommend the interview with Terry McAuliffe from Pod Save the People. He says the protestors had 'better armor' than state police, not that they were 'better armed', btw, which doesn't really matter, but his information about how early they called in the National Guard and why.

Also, at one point he says 'white supremacy? I don't even know what that is!' which is a stupid thing to say to DeRay Mckesson

You see CPD's APCs present in a few videos from Charlottesville and most of the Nazis had homemade shields.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/667d5334af74c787bdcdb7dcfef87102/tumblr_ouu6vxq2G81r9wa2qo1_1280.png

lmao Dylan

Typical Dylan shit

they must have an RSS feed set up to respond to this shit so quickly

Spencer's organization requested space for a speaker at the university where I work and they pondered it for a day and told him to fuck off. The college republicans just followed up with a statement that basically said "yeah we're cool with that, those guys are violent assholes".

Compare this to the university I used to work at where the president of the CR was actually carrying a torch in Charlottesville last Friday and stepped down under pressure this week.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/667d5334af74c787bdcdb7dcfef87102/tumblr_ouu6vxq2G81r9wa2qo1_1280.png

― licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 August 2017 20:18 (yesterday) Permalink

lmao Dylan

― nomar, Thursday, 17 August 2017 20:29 (yesterday) Permalink

Sympathizing with the empire instead of the rebels is actually a bit of an alt-right meme, so this isn't a surprising response.

ACLU announces they will no longer defend free speech claims from groups that insist on being armed

Will they defend gun-toting NRA members who claim they are being discriminated against by people who see their weapons of self-protection as threats?

I've been reading to much Robert Caro recently, but is there any possibility that the Senate Judiciary Committee establishes a subcommittee to investigate White Nationalist Terrorism? I note both Jeff Flake and Lindsay Graham are on the committee, and they want somewhere to retaliate against Trump...

Questions like who founds Jason Kessler? The Proud Boys? Vanguard America? Did James Fields just drive to Virginia from Ohio on his own, paying for everything out of his own pocket?

How much of a crossover is there between the very public stuff like this and the more traditional, less media-savvy, organised white nationalist / militia threat (Elohim City, etc)?

All I know is that the III percenters have provided security for events like the one in Charlottesville. They claim to reject white supremacist ideology, but they have a history of violence.

http://www.politicalresearch.org/2016/01/05/profiles-on-the-right-three-percenters/#sthash.B4kwnFiA.dpbs

Numerous arrests of Three Percenters and those who have shown affinity with them have been documented. Allen “Lance” Scarsella, who was arrested in connection with the shooting of five people at a Black Lives Matter demonstration in Minneapolis in November 2015, showed an affinity for the Three Percenters.10 So did Jerad Miller, who was at the Bundy Ranch before he and his wife, Amanda, were involved in a June 2014 ambush of police officers and subsequent shootout that left five dead, including the Millers.11 Three Percenter Brad Bartelt threatened to detonate a homemade explosive on Arkansas State University’s campus in December 201512. Bran­don D. Gibbs, who was heavily armed and armored when police arrested him in December 2014 for threatening a city official, also had shown an affinity for the Three Percenters.13 And in 2011, Frederick Thomas was arrested in Georgia as a member of a militia group, which “planned to attack cities including Atlanta with deadly ricin, bomb federal buildings and murder law enforcement officials and others.”14 Thomas was allegedly inspired by Vanderboegh’s online novel Absolved; it describes a future confrontation where activists with Patriot movement views have a shootout with law enforcement and plan to murder government officials.

Also, the guy arrested in the recent OKC bomb plot was a 3%er, and Minneapolis shooter Allen Scarsella expressed admiration for the III percenters.

Short of the FBI outright abdicating its duties, I think they're likely on this stuff, as always. Probably just not making as public thing of it as they should.

Yeah, Terry McAuliffe said he activated the National Guard last thursday, because of information from the FBI.

Now the DOJ, otoh, Sessions is a shit, I don't trust him to get results.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/politics/heather-heyer-susan-bro-donald-trump/index.html

how long before Trump publicly criticizes the victim's mother? p much lights out if he does, but it could be Khan part 2

He was elected President after Khan Part 1.

yeah but there's a diff between it occurring early in an election cycle when facing an unpopular opponent or in the midst of being President while already historically unpopular and being investigated for Russia collusion.

From a rally a couple years ago, I endorse this mode of trolling:

Trying some comedy. Tuba player ridicules KKK with a trolling serenade of slow, lumbering cartoon music then onto Ride of the Valkyries pic.twitter.com/2iWfGnCmyB

— RiotWomenn (@riotwomennn) August 18, 2017

Mingus did that really good back in the day, when his record company wouldn't let him include the vocal version of Fables of Faubus.