v.i. lenin - c or d?

Anyone read China Mieville's _October_ yet?

Yes. I liked it quite a lot.

Oh good. I picked it up on sale from Verso earlier this year and its on the bookshelf.

Also, this:

when you want to destroy a statue of the hated communist but the destruction of property is the ultimate sin pic.twitter.com/1oNT1Ac4VS

— Goth Ms. Frizzle (@spookperson) August 16, 2017

John Lenin maybe?

― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHyGCCZzG2o

Yes my half-apologetics (they are more than half though) are way more offensive than J.D. being patronising to people who are mostly of voting range (18-34 so actually possibly your age range even?), who could possibly already be engaged enough to know a bit more than what you think they know. A figure in a poll won't give us the nuance.

Please keep flying the Kerensky flag tho'.

i said half-comprehensible, you stalinist fuckwit, and that's giving you too much credit

LOL dude chill a bit, just because some Trot screamed at you in college there is no need to lay the trauma on us every week.

eh i'm plenty chill, yr genuinely strange shtick is more amusing than infuriating

ftr i would've been delighted to talk to a trotskyist in college now and then, would've been a break from all those libertarians

I live to amuse!

How have I not noticed this ilx feud before?

The internet gives so much every single day

"Let's Build a Zeppelin Fleet Named After Lenin! Not Individual Zeppelins, But a Whole Lenin Fleet of Zeppelins-This Is What The USSR Needs" pic.twitter.com/zdlyABTJwp

— Soviet Visuals (@sovietvisuals) October 20, 2016

I just got into China Mieville's October and it is excellent. Reading a well written + concise narrative history is a good way of recalling shit you have already read in more nebulous + ungainly accounts, and putting it all back together in your mind. And there is so much that gets lost in the mix, to a fuckwit like me in other books. I'm ill as fuck r/n with a cold and suffering from insomnia, so perfect bedtime reading, again.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/06/lenins-disguise-little-seen-photos-of-soviet-leader-go-on-show

In that recent China Mieville narrative history of red october, it was revealed that his disguise wasn't very good iirc.

https://marxistleninist.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/trotsky.jpg?w=500

unconvincing

The Russian Revolution, a lot more tits than you probably would expect:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-revolution-centenary-leon-trotsky-biopic-channel-one-ussr-bolshevik-marxist-joseph-stalin-a8002636.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/indias-modi-warns-against-statue-vandalism-crowds-topple-lenin/

https://newsocialist.org.uk/the-bolsheviks-dared-interview-with-lars-t-lih-on-lenin/

^^^this is a deep dive into the pre-revolutionary technicalities of bolshevik debate in the actual context they faced but lars t lih is probably the leading living non-sectarian lenin scholar and i think always interesting

(also he's a professor of music history at mcgill which is… unexpected)

Everybody need a side hustle nowadays

this is still the most famous guy i've ever seen in person.

the most famous guy corpse

thank you for clearing that up

In my second grade classroom I won more gold stars than Karen Karpen, who was my toughest competitor.

responsible for tankies and trots. so d

That's like blaming ABBA for the Brotherhood of Man.

Revolutions podcast has reached Lenin’s appearance on the scene.

xp. could also say this about marx wrt lenin

could also say this about marx wrt lenin

otm. We should blame engels.

I'm blaming Engels instead

A LOL from Fred, that's something you don't see every day.

I'm thanking Engels instead.

I'm blaming Engels instead

More classic as the world gets shittier to live in.

kind of ironic how revisionist and rightist the NEP was. his followers would have put him in the gulag

happy 150th, old fellow

"Communism and no malarkey" -- Uncle "Joe" Biden

this guy killed the revolution, leftists need to stop copying his shit theory and his pompous pedantic writing style

there are weeks where decades happen, and also weeks where it's your birthday!

there would be no tankies or trots without this man

saved capitalism & turned anti capitalism into a joke, what a legacy

Tankies or trots are things to troll ilx libs, nothing else.

Today we celebrate 150 years since the birth of revolutionary and theorist, Lenin. His legacy and the legacy of the Russian revolution still inspires millions around the world to fight. For peace and socialism! pic.twitter.com/6YEArZ13U1

— London Young Labour (@LDNYoungLabour) April 22, 2020

Lol hope us where you find it

lol

You don't need to be a Communist or even a Socialist to recognise the positives as well as the evils in Lenin's rule. Not least, his New Economic Policy established pragmatic market socialism which eventually succeeded in Deng's #China https://t.co/p5ue5pIca8

— Vince Cable (@vincecable) April 22, 2020

fuck me

tankies & trots are still a real problem in some circles even if liberals tend to identify anyone left of gordon brown as one

many twitter "marxist leninist maoists" agree with comrade vince here including the deng bit

Russia was such a dire mess by late 1916 that a collapse into some form of chaotic violence was more or less inevitable. It was a "failed state" as we now use the term. Lenin happened to be the head of the best organized and most ruthless faction and was able to seize the reins of power. The fanatically ideological basis of the new government was of huge value, not just in creating the cadres who drove the revolution, but in acquiring the consent of the governed and restabilizing society. China's revolution also arose out of a failed state collapsing during a World War. It's harder to fault Lenin and Mao when you grasp out of what chaotic conditions they forcibly created governance.

I'm a bit of a melt when it comes to NEP (not that I agree with Laying Cable). It was a new state and frail from the ravages of civil war and rife with starvation, cannibalism etc.. I think Lenin wanted it to run for much longer than he managed to live, but I think you had to be there or something!

he's no V.I. Warshawski

it’s easy to fault lenin & co for not abolishing capitalism