Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

there are seemingly-simultaneous events which seem to be occurring asynchronously

i'm still not 100% sold that this is the case. the opening scene with cooper in the black lodge talking to the giant seems like the most obvious candidate for being out of place time-wise, but beyond that i don't really know of any "proof" that the las vegas stuff, for example, is taking place earlier, for example. i think it's possible, but i'm not buying it as a given yet.

I also laughed thinking about my previous assumption that Jeffries was the one who slipped Ray the gun "dressed as a guard", I pictured a giant percolator in a prison guard uniform. Then I remembered Ray was dealing with an imposter Jeffries, and I laughed even more at the image of a giant percolator in a prison guard uniform with a false moustache.

xp well mr c sends a text in this ep that Diane received like 6 episodes ago so there is some of that going on for sure

Rewatched Lost Highway recently and found it funny that about half of the character names were just reused from TP. I bet Lynch is annoyed that he has to make up names for characters and just half asses it.

First 40 or so mins of that is easily one of the best things he's done btw, and the rest wasn't as bad as I remembered.

ok i am incapable of remembering all this stuff but i thought we had already seen bad cooper text diane about las vegas before, and that when we saw it in this episode he was checking in again on the same issue

or maybe i'm thinking about the "dinner table" texts, which were presented semi-chronologically?

Yeah we didn't see him send the "Las Vegas?" - thinking about it tho it wouldn't be out of character for him to just keep sending the same text so this might not be the original we're seeing now

can't wait for bad cooper's next text to be all emojis

☕️⏰👍

But one comes out reversed

That timeline is making hash of my head. Log Lady is alive during Hawk's night walk to Glastonbury Grove, so his final conversation with her and her death are on the 3rd or later. But she's still telling him to look out for the one under the moon on Blue Pine Mountain, so it doesn't quite seem part of the denouement of the series' events.

They put up that timeline before the latest part aired so it'll be in need of revision already. Tbh I'm more confused about the hawk scene than ever after what seemed to be the log lady's final appearance!

She said "Laura is the one" and now she wants him to be sure to look out for the one she told him about, who's under the moon on Blue Pine Mountain, which seems a reasonable place for the coordinates to point to and to which the various strands of plot are converging.

I don't think Hawk's trip to Glastonbury Grove was out of sequence, there's all sorts of elliptical scenes in this and it was just a way to bring us to the extended Black Losge sequence.

Yeah I'm starting to agree with you. I guess we'll never know what tipped him off that "something is supposed to happen" at Glastonbury Grove that night, the extent of what he saw, why he didn't tell anyone, &c.

The one under the moon on the mountain is the black symbol that resembles the experiment, seen on Briggs's sketch, right?

why he didn't tell anyone

seems like that he doesn't actually remember it tbh

"something is supposed to happen" at Glastonbury Grove

bad coop restored to the lodge/good coop released imo. which obv didn't happen but was... supposed to happen

i expect the timeline doesn't line up there but it's the best explanation i got

that's my interpretation too

The one under the moon on the mountain is the black symbol that resembles the experiment, seen on Briggs's sketch, right?

That thing hangs in the air between the moon & the mountain on the map, rather than being on the mountain, in a literal sense.

Margaret's insistent tone really made it seem like she was talking about Laura. And we got another cut straight to the moon (possibly even the same shot) as in the ep where she finishes her conversation with Hawk by saying "Laura is the one" (cut to shot of moon while opening notes of "No Stars" play, then establishing shot of Roadhouse)

Was Bad Coop's mention of 1989 the first time Twin Peaks was ever tied to a specific year?

And we still don't know who Mr Todd was working for, right?

Todd was working for Mr. C

The date is given in the opening minutes of FWWM, I think, and then the flash-forward to Laura's final days is marked "One Year Later."

Still loving the succinct Mr. Todd wrap-up with Chantal

Remembering the theory(-ish) that Good Coop leaving behind his shoes while transferring to Vegas was significant, so maybe the electric "download" that may make him return fully was all about his shoes :')

or maybe he's just dead

last three episodes devoted to Dougie's funeral

Bad Cooper shows up and tells amusing stories about Dianne and Audrey, everyone hugs and laughs at all the misunderstandings

heartwarming dad-son reconciliation talk between Mr. C and Richard

eddie vedder performs at the post-funeral

BOB defeats everyone in next episode, last 2 episodes dedicated to the establishment of a representative democracy

RIP Dougie

Oh, I also just remembered: "Sharp Dressed Man" as played at the Roadhouse contains the words "new shoes"

xxxxxxxxxxxxp I was also hoping for a surprise Xiu Xiu appearance when they announced "Sharp Dressed Man." was just thinking the other day how sick it would've been to have them play at the Roadhouse, they're several orders of magnitude better than everyone else that has played (except The Nine Inch Nails).

I was really hoping ZZ Top was going to show up tbh, which would've been incredible

as woodsmen

i guess they filmed the crowd dancing to a stand-in song before clearing the rights? because i don't care how bad white people are at dancing, that was not a group of people listening to "sharp dressed man"

looks like they do this when actual bands play too lol

p much every band that's played has been miming to a recorded track, no?

most of 'em, if not all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kq9JoL0MNM

as woodsmen

http://i.imgur.com/aGn3fGS.jpg

alternate "TV Dinner" sleeve

omg kurt schwitterz

Also, while we're at it, here's a Twin Peaks-inspired old Legendary Pink Dots song called "New Shoes": https://legendarypinkdots1.bandcamp.com/track/new-shoes

So... I registered on ILX a few weeks ago, and what finally made me register after lurking for years was first and foremost this thread; I had just binge-watched the old Twin Peaks (another thing I had been deferring for years), FWWM, and the new season (this was after part 8 had aired, descriptions of which were what triggered that TP binge). The display name I chose is from one of my favorite Legendary Pink Dots pieces, and I only learned/realized yesterday that at least the first minutes of that 20-minute piece are a TP/Lynch tribute. Duh! It's all coming together: https://legendarypinkdots1.bandcamp.com/track/we-bring-the-day

this was a great episode. show has been on a serious role. also I liked that veils song.

many xps I thought "No Stars" was live because it differs from the original recorded version, but apparently it was recorded again with the extra reverb and auto-tune for the show.

What's the basis for the theory that Hawk's first conversation with Margaret and trip to Glastonbury Grove take place in the future (relative to the rest of that episode, anyway)? The outcome seemed fairly ambiguous, and I don't recall anything that suggested we were seeing anything out of order.

I think it's just the scene didn't seem to be motivated by anything that came before (Hawk's got info that something's happening at Glastonbury Grove tonight? What kind of info? From where?) nor does it connect to anything that came after (Hawk sees the red curtains and then...what? Does something happen?) and since the opening Cooper scene also seems like it might be a flash-forward.

but yeah now it just seems like a weirdly unconnected scene, not a flash-forward or anything

Can never have too much Legendary Pink Dots references on here, welcome Pylons.

Great episode obv. Everything's already been said for this European who gets to watch this bonkers show a day later. Jeffries being a tea pot, Otis, Margaret... All stone cold classic TP scenes.

Like Karl, I stay away from the numerology. The matrix upthread about the different timelines ditto, I'm too dumb to follow all that surely. Following said dumbness: what is Bad Coop's 'raison d'etre' at this moment? What is his mission, what is he *looking* for? (apart from Judy but on a grander scale, what thrives him?)

you mean... what does he WANT

I'm not sure either but consensus on this thread appears to be that he wants to a) kill Dougie/Good Cooper, and b) fuck up the White Lodge