Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Yeah I'm starting to agree with you. I guess we'll never know what tipped him off that "something is supposed to happen" at Glastonbury Grove that night, the extent of what he saw, why he didn't tell anyone, &c.

The one under the moon on the mountain is the black symbol that resembles the experiment, seen on Briggs's sketch, right?

why he didn't tell anyone

seems like that he doesn't actually remember it tbh

"something is supposed to happen" at Glastonbury Grove

bad coop restored to the lodge/good coop released imo. which obv didn't happen but was... supposed to happen

i expect the timeline doesn't line up there but it's the best explanation i got

that's my interpretation too

The one under the moon on the mountain is the black symbol that resembles the experiment, seen on Briggs's sketch, right?

That thing hangs in the air between the moon & the mountain on the map, rather than being on the mountain, in a literal sense.

Margaret's insistent tone really made it seem like she was talking about Laura. And we got another cut straight to the moon (possibly even the same shot) as in the ep where she finishes her conversation with Hawk by saying "Laura is the one" (cut to shot of moon while opening notes of "No Stars" play, then establishing shot of Roadhouse)

Was Bad Coop's mention of 1989 the first time Twin Peaks was ever tied to a specific year?

And we still don't know who Mr Todd was working for, right?

Todd was working for Mr. C

The date is given in the opening minutes of FWWM, I think, and then the flash-forward to Laura's final days is marked "One Year Later."

Still loving the succinct Mr. Todd wrap-up with Chantal

Remembering the theory(-ish) that Good Coop leaving behind his shoes while transferring to Vegas was significant, so maybe the electric "download" that may make him return fully was all about his shoes :')

or maybe he's just dead

last three episodes devoted to Dougie's funeral

Bad Cooper shows up and tells amusing stories about Dianne and Audrey, everyone hugs and laughs at all the misunderstandings

heartwarming dad-son reconciliation talk between Mr. C and Richard

eddie vedder performs at the post-funeral

BOB defeats everyone in next episode, last 2 episodes dedicated to the establishment of a representative democracy

RIP Dougie

Oh, I also just remembered: "Sharp Dressed Man" as played at the Roadhouse contains the words "new shoes"

xxxxxxxxxxxxp I was also hoping for a surprise Xiu Xiu appearance when they announced "Sharp Dressed Man." was just thinking the other day how sick it would've been to have them play at the Roadhouse, they're several orders of magnitude better than everyone else that has played (except The Nine Inch Nails).

I was really hoping ZZ Top was going to show up tbh, which would've been incredible

as woodsmen

i guess they filmed the crowd dancing to a stand-in song before clearing the rights? because i don't care how bad white people are at dancing, that was not a group of people listening to "sharp dressed man"

looks like they do this when actual bands play too lol

p much every band that's played has been miming to a recorded track, no?

most of 'em, if not all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kq9JoL0MNM

as woodsmen

http://i.imgur.com/aGn3fGS.jpg

alternate "TV Dinner" sleeve

omg kurt schwitterz

Also, while we're at it, here's a Twin Peaks-inspired old Legendary Pink Dots song called "New Shoes": https://legendarypinkdots1.bandcamp.com/track/new-shoes

So... I registered on ILX a few weeks ago, and what finally made me register after lurking for years was first and foremost this thread; I had just binge-watched the old Twin Peaks (another thing I had been deferring for years), FWWM, and the new season (this was after part 8 had aired, descriptions of which were what triggered that TP binge). The display name I chose is from one of my favorite Legendary Pink Dots pieces, and I only learned/realized yesterday that at least the first minutes of that 20-minute piece are a TP/Lynch tribute. Duh! It's all coming together: https://legendarypinkdots1.bandcamp.com/track/we-bring-the-day

this was a great episode. show has been on a serious role. also I liked that veils song.

many xps I thought "No Stars" was live because it differs from the original recorded version, but apparently it was recorded again with the extra reverb and auto-tune for the show.

What's the basis for the theory that Hawk's first conversation with Margaret and trip to Glastonbury Grove take place in the future (relative to the rest of that episode, anyway)? The outcome seemed fairly ambiguous, and I don't recall anything that suggested we were seeing anything out of order.

I think it's just the scene didn't seem to be motivated by anything that came before (Hawk's got info that something's happening at Glastonbury Grove tonight? What kind of info? From where?) nor does it connect to anything that came after (Hawk sees the red curtains and then...what? Does something happen?) and since the opening Cooper scene also seems like it might be a flash-forward.

but yeah now it just seems like a weirdly unconnected scene, not a flash-forward or anything

Can never have too much Legendary Pink Dots references on here, welcome Pylons.

Great episode obv. Everything's already been said for this European who gets to watch this bonkers show a day later. Jeffries being a tea pot, Otis, Margaret... All stone cold classic TP scenes.

Like Karl, I stay away from the numerology. The matrix upthread about the different timelines ditto, I'm too dumb to follow all that surely. Following said dumbness: what is Bad Coop's 'raison d'etre' at this moment? What is his mission, what is he *looking* for? (apart from Judy but on a grander scale, what thrives him?)

you mean... what does he WANT

I'm not sure either but consensus on this thread appears to be that he wants to a) kill Dougie/Good Cooper, and b) fuck up the White Lodge

"WHO IS JUDY?!!?!"

will someone please tell him who Judy is, he's been very clear on this request

Spoiler: SALEM will be the band in the last episode.

Yeah what does he WANT! :D

You are probably right about those goals but for all his badassness he's presented as a character very much lead by what happens to other people, in other situations, instead of on a true path or mission on his own. I can't put my finger on it but for a 'bad spirit' he sure needs a lot of uhm help. Opening a door for Bad Coop? C'mon, he'd have whooped that door out of its frame!

On Audrey: batshit scenes. I get the person upthread who said it was 'dragging', to say the least. To me it comes across as something thoroughly unreal, not being what we see. When she jumps on Charlie saying 'I hate you! I hate you!' it's almost as she's trying to wake up from a nightmare. Take that as literal as you like.

Can never have too much Legendary Pink Dots references on here, welcome Pylons.

Thanks! :)

You are probably right about those goals but for all his badassness he's presented as a character very much lead by what happens to other people, in other situations, instead of on a true path or mission on his own. I can't put my finger on it but for a 'bad spirit' he sure needs a lot of uhm help. Opening a door for Bad Coop? C'mon, he'd have whooped that door out of its frame!

i think spirits help mr c the same way they help good coop,

Totally get the reference from 'We Bring The Day' too! It's 'Crazy Clown Time' in the beginning, but stretches out into 'The Air Is On Fire' territory towards the end. xp

I can't put my finger on it but for a 'bad spirit' he sure needs a lot of uhm help. Opening a door for Bad Coop? C'mon, he'd have whooped that door out of its frame!

I enjoy that aspect. Even an extremely strong bad spirit needs to harness, and may be foiled by, collective creativity! Bad Cooper is capitalism lololol #hottake

That is probably true Chaki. It wasn't a complaint to be clear, just befuddlement. xp

Totally get the reference from 'We Bring The Day' too! It's 'Crazy Clown Time' in the beginning, but stretches out into 'The Air Is On Fire' territory towards the end. xp

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, August 21, 2017 7:35 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They clearly were very immersed in TP back in the early 90s; this mid-90s interview contains an anecdote about a particularly strange show with Roadhouse vibes that reads all the more eerie in retrospect because, well, a woodsman was present! https://legendarypinkdots.org/c51-interviews/an-interview-with-edward-ka-spel-of-the-legendary-pink-dots-divine-madness/

Of course, the Dots' work has a lot of affinities with Lynch's in general -- the overall surrealist aesthetic, dream logic, gorgeous pop songs turning very disturbing... it has been a nice experience to, in a sense, combine these worlds over the last weeks.

and then he had to fuck it all up with that amanda palmer collab

lol

If only the Legendary Pink Dots could throw Eddie Vedder in the vortex and take the stage at the Roadhouse, that would be sublime. Xiu Xiu also a perfect fit not happening, sadly.

I am completely surprised that we have yet to see Lana Del Rey nor Zoey Deschanel as music guests.