the alt-right

what's a tankie

Why should any private citizen initiate violence with a bunch of armed maniacs?

Organise ppl.

apologist for communist violence particularly stalin/mao xxp

tankie = stalinist basically

iirc it originated in britain and was a pejorative term for hardline cpgb members who supported the russian invasions (tanks rolling in hence the name) of hungary and czechoslovakia

wait, so has bethune finally come back to us then?

iirc Silby got to know some of my mannerisms through the Castro thread

Its pretty desperate I just want Nazis dead. Although Stalin, by killing them in the end, would do a far better job than many of you.

surprised you aren't disappointed in Stalin for not pre-emptively invading Nazi Germany instead of being a totally deluded pussy and then getting caught flatfooted when they started to slaughter millions of his citizens

'in the end'

you would just go on a hoo-hah about the 1st amendment as they kill us.

is this larry?

Is this?

https://www.gq.com/story/dylann-roof-making-of-an-american-terrorist/amp

nah it's

http://taskandpurpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-Shot-2016-06-07-at-5.05.12-PM.jpg

larry's not British

(neither is Aldo Raines btw)

brb going on a hoo-hah

I raised the First Amendment question in the free speech thread and Beria, Stalin, Zinoniev, et. al were not consulted.

Scent of a truman xp

http://i.imgur.com/NjnuKFG.jpg

is this larry?

it's julio

in that krang t nelson tweet above, btw, millennial matt wasn't sent scarpering by violence and guns but because someone brought a camera and documented the rally on the internet

That person could go to another place, rebuild and organise with others.

And why wouldn't many learn from this and put masks in future?

Has anyone itt ever taken part in an act of political violence

i voted lib dem once

Damn, step back

No. It doesn't matter either way.

Just checking

But now that Stevie has given away my not so secret actual name (lol) I could be lying.

Ah don't worry I'd say we all believe you tbh

welp, here we go

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Federal-permit-approved-for-far-right-rally-in-11953450.php

I've seen plans for a counter-rally at the downtown civic center but idk that seems like weak sauce to me. these people should be surrounded and shouted down by 10s of thousands just like in Boston.

you should go then!

I gave it a lot of thought, but I had already signed up to do a phone bank for Swing Left that afternoon, and I don't think my wife wants to take the kids to an event where there could be potential violence. I understand that my temple is going to be involved with the counter-protests at least.

From the sound of it there are a lot of people going to Crissy Field. There were ~150 people just at the security training hosted by SURJ last night.

Why in the world was the 'progressive'/leftist reaction to the Charlottesville violence the EXACT SAME THING they admonish conservatives for -- a sneering "talk to the white people in your life and chastise them about white terrorism"?? -- this is precisely how ppl like, say, Milo Yiannopolis react to islamic terrorism. it's completely idiotic.

it's also a kind of noblesse oblige on behalf of fake white progressives - 'we would never, ever expect you all to take the high road when it comes to dealing with terrorists within your own identity clique... but we will' fucking phony and disgusting.

I actually haven't heard that particular reaction anywhere; just some people pointing out the hypocrisy there, "imagine people actually saying this...?"

the thing that I wish got acknowledged more in all these idiot debates about whether or not the "Antifa" are "just as bad" or somewhat as bad or whatever is the hypothetical, "what if it was an ISIS rally?" ISIS shows up on the streets, armed to the teeth, chanting their ISIS slogans, and literally murders someone. now imagine there are counter-protestors, some of whom *do* start shit a bit prematurely, but ultimately outnumber and cause the ISIS folk to retreat. doesn't every single one of those people get hailed as an American hero, first and foremost by the President himself?

Why in the world was the 'progressive'/leftist reaction to the Charlottesville violence the EXACT SAME THING they admonish conservatives for -- a sneering "talk to the white people in your life and chastise them about white terrorism"?? -- this is precisely how ppl like, say, Milo Yiannopolis react to islamic terrorism. it's completely idiotic.

that's a really strange way to characterize it. "chastise" them about white terrorism? "dealing with terrorists within your own identity clique"? are you saying a common reaction was for people on the left to advise everyone to tell their neo-nazi friends to fuck off? and that's the same as Milo fucking Milo talking about islamic terrorism? what? i guess i'm just like milo then, but yeah if you have a friend that's a neo-nazi you should probably tell them to fuck off and never talk to them again. sounds good to me. there's no high road there, there's just a big wide road and the being friends with a neo-nazi road.

does milo advise people to chastise the terrorists in their life? i only hate read him once but i guess i wouldn't put it past him.

firmly chastise a terrorist today

facebook status update: i have had it up to HERE with my friends who are terrorists. if you're not a terrorist, like this message so i know who to NOT unfollow.

but yeah if you have a friend that's a neo-nazi you should probably tell them to fuck off and never talk to them again. sounds good to me. there's no high road there, there's just a big wide road and the being friends with a neo-nazi road.

NO ONE has a friend who's a neo nazi. these are several hundred or maybe thousand people in a country of hundreds of millions, probably about the same % as muslims who are terrorists. do you feel similarly compelled to remind all muslims to talk to their terrorist friends and tell them it's not cool?

i was being sarcastic because it's silly to imagine masses of people on the left calling out their neo-nazi friends. but that's what you characterized as the 'progressive'/leftist reaction.

milo yiannopolis is not a muslim, last i checked. the kinds of comments that i think sleepingbag is caricaturing are of the "hey other white liberals, i know we're used to being noncommittal or changing the subject when our family members or friends say racist or reactionary things but we need to stand up" or whatever, which we've basically been hearing endless variations on since the election especially.

Yeah, that's a really dumb equivalency. We live in a white supremacist democratic republic. If ISIS ran their territories as a democratic republic and hardcore jihadists were gaining traction I would consider it a duty of any Islamic Isis-ian to speak out against them and challenge their friends and family to confront their own biases to try to ensure there wouldn't be any more beheadings.

Even that is an incredibly weak parallel but it's a lot closer to reality than sleepingbag's comparison.

I think the idea was to get white people to talk about white supremacy, not white terrorism?

Who is sleepingbag

I cannot translate their post

my preferred pronoun when you don't know who i am is 'his or her', fyi

I think the idea was to get white people to talk about white supremacy, not white terrorism?

― Frederik B, Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:35 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok... to what end?

I like how you're trying to elide the fact that your last post was incomprehensible bullshit by asking Fred B for clarification of his post

I think the idea was to get white people to talk about white supremacy, not white terrorism?

― Frederik B, Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:35 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok... to what end?

― sleepingbag, 24. august 2017 10:56 (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To practice pronunciation. 'white supremacy, white supremacy, white su-PRE-macy, white su-PREE-macy'. Good for the mouth.