Is the work of Steven Soderbergh the most overrated thing ever?

Anyone see his 2001 reedit? It's impossible to find.

Happy to see The Limey do so well on that list (and on this thread), love that film.

It was OK.

otm

thought Logan Lucky was extremely good

Really? To me he spent so much time making sure the plot was humming that the characters came off thin.

maybe? not so much that i noticed tbh. i enjoyed all of the performances a lot, and the milieu just as much.

I love Cliff Martinez's soundtrack music for Solaris.

Loved the world of Logan Lucky, reminded me a bit of Sean Baker? The sun-baked vistas with those box-shaped gas stations and shops, the slight unreality of the nascar/beauty pageant scene. The sense of a society that doesn't fit together.

It worked better in Erin Brockovich

I didn't hate it or even dislike it that much; I felt nothing when it ended except, "This is long."

Going to see it this weekend.

Also, there's a v. good Elvis Mitchell interview with Logan Lucky's costume designer, who also did Behind The Candelabra, Wall Street, Fatal Attraction.

This was really good and really fun - waaaay better than fuckin baby driver or valerian. I'm with morbz - Channing Tatum is hot af in this - I like him a little more chunky, a little less lean.

*Logan Lucky

Tatum's hot, yeah, but the rest not so much.

I dug Logan Lucky, especially how it played with the aspirational pleasures of heist movies. When each teller, clerk, etc. gets manipulated (especially the one who gets the birthday cake), there's a tug that's different from fooling the Vegas guard or Cannes concierge.

Sharp take by Alfred above.

LL was a nice baked comedown after the rush of Mother! the previous evening. Cool to hear John Fahey on the soundtrack and yes, sooo much better than the wretched Baby Driver - this is how you do a comedy heist crime romance movie.

New...not a movie, not a TV series...

https://www.wired.com/story/steven-soderbergh-new-app-mosaic/

"an NCSA production"

Steve joins the iPhone brigade!

“We hear that the pic will go wide. This is the thriller that Soderbergh reportedly shot on his iPhone and which stars Claire Foy, Juno Temple, Amy Irving, Aimee Mullins, and SNL alum Jay Pharoah.”

http://deadline.com/2017/11/claire-foy-juno-temple-steven-soderbergh-unsane-march-23-release-1202208079/

Really enjoying Mosaic so far. Not sure if the formal gimmick will pay off but it’s a decent murder mystery.

is it US only? i don't see it in the app store.

There will be a "proper" mini-series release of Mosaic on HBO in January I believe.

I dig ILX's take that even though it may be froth Lucky Logan's a whole lot better cup of froth than Baby Driver. I concur.
What fun this movie is, everyone plays a blinder; David Holmes, Dan Craig, Adam Driver.. i wish Katie Holmes had been in it more.

til: riley keough is elvis' granddaughter. would sign up to the riley keough newsletter.

huge fan of driver in this. what a character. he was basically doing a comedy WV accent but it was probably better than anyone else's apart from some of the character actors, and the pageant girl. (daniel craig's accent was.. interesting. felt like he was going for tommy lee jones and almost got there) anyway i disagree with alfred that craig comes off best. driver felt real. does he smile once? if so i didn't see it. he was a character totally out of joint, out of time, out of place, slightly baffled by everything that doesn't involve the bar, which probably applies to a whole lot of veterans. tatum was just okay? it really could have been pretty much any hunky fella doing that role tbh (sorry channing). i loved the ford dealer. he brought on a lot of khaki, braided belt, white-ballcap flashbacks. btw i don't think that bar, if it existed in real life, would have had martini glasses, frankly. certainly not ones that clean.

Logan Lucky should have gotten its own thread. Driver and Tatum are fantastic. I could have done without the dumb brothers and the shitty automatic-driving car-dealer stepdad to Tatum's daughter, but it's a heist movie, so some folks have to be around to (almost) fuck everything up, and remind you that "legitimate" businessmen are (at least) as shitty as the thieves, respectively.

As cheap as it was, the pageant bit required significant mental exertion on my part to not turn into a puddle on the spot.

Tracer you make a good point about the types of cocktail glasses available in that sort of establishment, but we are living in the future now

As cheap as it was, the pageant bit required significant mental exertion on my part to not turn into a puddle on the spot.

since I became a parent I'll get all "no I just have something in my eye" at the cheapest stuff.

re: the iPhone-shot thriller mentioned earlier - Unsane is out 03/23

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/steven-soderbergh-interview-sundance-iphone-unsane-1201921769/

Asked if he would commit exclusively to shooting on iPhones going forward, he replied, “I’d have to have a pretty good reason not to be thinking about that first… There’s a philosophical obstacle a lot of people have about the size of the capture device. I don’t have that problem. I look at this as potentially one of the most liberating experiences that I’ve ever had as a filmmaker, and that I continue having. The gets that I felt moment to moment were so significant that this is, to me, a new chapter.”

WHts the point he only does cgi now anyway - coward!!!

Has anyone seen his 2001 cut? It's been pretty well scrubbed from the internet.

Oh wait I thought this was aboout Speilberg

man, what a waste of effort for everyone involved Logan Lucky was. It's got all the trappings of a fun twist on the heist movie but there's just...nothing there

yeah the enthusiasm mystified me

This movie was like the opposite of an idiot plot - instead Channing Tatum pulls off the heist because he's a superhero who can do anything, including predict the future.

Part of the fun of a heist movie is learning the minutiae of the heist plan, then seeing how the characters react when the heist (inevitably) falls apart. In this movie, everything just *works* first time and there's no tension, except the odd incidental fun detail, like Seth Macfarlane getting punched in the face.

1/2 way thru the televised mosaic, p good.. i like devin ratray a lot; generally feels like a less gritty "the night of"; some dialogue is a lil overwritten but nontheless enjoyable imo

Unsane might be the culmination of a decade of his films. Actually kinda great.

UNSANE: so good it’s crazy. Soderbergh conjures dizzying terror, evokes visceral emotion, and pretty much rewrites the deep-focus rulebook, using little more than the contents of my front-right pocket.

— Charles Bramesco (@intothecrevasse) March 15, 2018

preview next week!

Twitter dude pretty much otm.

opens in NY tomw

Boring after it turns into a slasher flick

Frederik and Bramesco not otm

will I fare better if I love slashers

Even tedious and tonally muddled ones?

feel like Soderbergh tried to semi-retreat to do things in a workmanlike way but people keep trying to figure out what angle he's playing

in the center of the just-off middlebrow target he's been hitting you get the impression he's trying to find a good project, or at least enjoys honing his craft

one of the writers of unsane is my FB friend and i kinda thought he was an ilxor. but maybe he isn't. i don't know how i know him.

one of (JG) is a music critic who wrote for sp1n, it seems.

one of them

I wondered if it was the same Bernstein!

It's not 'workmanlike', it's vibrantly experimental, and people enjoy it because of the newness, energy and joy in the aesthetics. And yeah, it's weird that it's coming from an old pro who've just fallen in love with new toys, but that's what it is.