Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

I was in awe of the "you're younger, go up there and check it out" ploy. Like, how fucking obvious was that? Adios, Richard

Can't believe Aleister Crowley killed Chantal and Hutch

that guy was my favorite deus ex parking spot

"I'm in the sheriff's station" -- any theories on the specifics of the relation between Diane/the Diane tulpa and Naido?

Or maybe Chad is everyone. Or, #actually, Chad is the dreamer.

naido does kiiiiinda sound like diane backwards

Yeah Diane is obv Naido

The bleeding Drunk is Judy

When I first watched this I started checking my phone during vedder and nearly missed Audrey's entrance

Jerry's entrance in this episode sure looked like an approaching Woodsman. I don't know if it was significant but I have to assume that it was intentional.

There's also a whole lot to say/speculate about regarding what Bad Cooper's rape of Diane and its consequences tell us about Audrey

Jerry watching Richard get Earle'd haha

poor Jerry never disfigured out which way to hold the binoculars

lol, figured

These are what you call finger sandwiches

This episode blew my mind. I was welling up at Coop's farewell scene at the casino.

Diane received Mr. C's text at 16:32, which he sent shortly after Richard was zapped. So there's the 4:30 from the Fireman's opening clues, I guess. No still no Linda though.

Also who was the third person to give C coordinates? Ray, "Diane," who else?

Jeffries

Is the rock richard climbed on the "one stone" then?

wow!

(that's me at the end of the episode, and also tammy after diane tulpa gets shot)

reading the twin peaks subreddit is so depressing, these people keep saying "LYNCHED!"

it bears repeating that reddit and imgur, the shitty image subcommunity it spawned and then left behind once it decided to host its own content, are some of the shittiest internet communities on the entire earth

it's still ambiguous what happened to audrey between twin peaks s2 and the return, but i love the idea that she kind of drifted away from the world when pearl jam was still playing local bars around washington, and drifts back only to find eddie vedder rocking the bang bang

i know. it depends on the sub reddit. but generally it's... really depressing. i haven't spent much time on r/twinpeaks bc of this

karl malone otm

anyway that was... wow wow wow

i love the night driving motif in lynch's work across the years (including the shot that opened this episode) - you always know you're in for a treat

sorry, last thing - that bright white setting audrey finds herself in at the very end: that's new, right? trying to remember another time that's appeared. really looking forward to the payoff there

Yeah that's new

Interesting that bushnell heard the great northern hum in the hospital - I'm sure there's a great theory to be spun from that & the fact that Bellina "Louie 'Birdsong' Budway" Logan played the doctor

I was wondering what the hum meant regarding who might be in the Great Northern. Maybe that's where Audrey has been?

OH! i forgot, that doctor scene was hilarious! *checks the vitals for about 6 seconds* ok i'll go get your exit paperwork ready! i want to live in this world, even if it's the end of the world

In Secret History of Twin Peaks it's implied that Audrey's been in a coma since the bank bombing.

This makes me wonder if ALL of the Roadhouse scenes have been happening in her head, or just this one.

I think it's a way station or some kind of limbo. characters unrelated to audrey have shown up

serving burgers

I guess James and Hulk hand got in a fight there, which ties in to the "real" storyline of the show

Also Chad, Red, Ray...

While I was feeling more ambiguous about this at the end of that scene than at the start (which I thought, for a second, would put the Audrey is dreaming/in a coma theories to rest), I do think this confirms that... some version/form of Audrey is very much awake and active in the world of Twin Peaks. Both the Diane scene and that cliffhanger of course may suggest that what we're seeing is something beyond the awake/in a coma dichotomy

Jerry sure seems to have strayed far afield of the forest he was lost in

I knew sooner or later Jerry would stumble upon the other characters, but when it happened it came as a total surprise

Also Chad, Red, Ray...

James, of course.

And I doubt Audrey could have dreamed 'just you and I' because she wasn't witness to it in the first place. Though maybe James sings it a lot.

I'm kinda hesitant to dive too deep into coma theories because there was that scene where the guy runs into the double-r and asks "has anyone seen billy?" in the end of part 7. Would that be part of Audrey's coma world? It doesn't feel like it.

But that ending? Shit, I don't know what to say. Maybe she's got black lodge ties too? If coop took Diane to the convenience store, who knows what he might've done with Audrey

also are we ever gonna get anything with the box ever again? Because as many missing threads as this show has, that one's truly stumping me. It's a cool concept though and I want to guess we'll get answers next week.

Perhaps Coop vs Badcoop interdimensional fisticuffs will include the box at some point.

I nearly posted the naido = "o dian" thing a couple of weeks ago as a joke, wish I had now that so many people seem excited by it lol

I thought part of the point of Jerry showing up was to make it clear that the doppelgänger was in the twin peaks area, so I wouldn't assume he's come that far

Always thought this song had a Lynchy Twin Peaks thing going on

https://youtu.be/plwjBKk8y_s

Something that kind of hit me with the driving scene: the narrative moves around so much that you barely notice how geographically static all the characters are. Cole/Tammy/Albert have been hanging out in Buckhorn, SD for basically the entire series! The Las Vegas people haven't left Las Vegas. Only Bad Coop, Richard Horne, and Tim Roth / JJL are allowed to take to the roads. This somehow seems related to the Audrey-Charlie scenes of just somehow not being able to work up the momentum to get out the door and go to the Roadhouse. (In a way, I found "Audrey and Charlie actually make it to the Roadhouse" more viscerally shocking than Audrey in the white room!)

Not sure we will get any more of the box. The photo suggests it was Mr C's project and given that it failed to capture Coop I guess it's redundant. I also think it might have been destroyed by Mother/The Experiment and it's presumably under police/FBI surveillance now. But you never know...

I'm thinking the Roadhouse scenes are all real, but the Audrey scene was a projection of some sort. Or, as may be more likely, there's something not quite right with the Roadhouse - infected by the Black Lodge, so time and reality are warped.

Craziest part was when Audrey just strolled into the roadhouse without her damn coat

I'm kinda hesitant to dive too deep into coma theories because there was that scene where the guy runs into the double-r and asks "has anyone seen billy?" in the end of part 7. Would that be part of Audrey's coma world? It doesn't feel like it.

The fact that an entire new group of customers appeared when the guy ran in and Shelly and Heidi were standing in different places sure seemed to indicate this was some other reality creeping in.

When Cooper says "I need you to make another one" to MIKE he means there needs to be another tulpa/doppelganger, right? Does the lock of hair mean that he wants MIKE to make another Cooper? Can there be three at once? Trippelganger? MIKE assures Coop that he has a seed. Does he mean the seed that used to be Dougie? Or the one that Diane boils down to later in the episode? Does he need another manufactured being because he needs it for whatever's coming in Twin Peaks? Or is he just saying MIKE needs to send Janey-E and Sonny Jim a refurb Dougie when it's all over?

On some level I don't understand whether Bad Coop is one kind of thing and Dougie / nu-Diane were a separate kind of thing, or whether all three are the same kind of thing but Bad Coop is different by virtue of having Bob in him.

Also I want to stand up for "I am the FBI" -- I think it goes well with the ending, the only classic "cliffhanger" in the series so far that I can remember, and the shootout in Las Vegas -- somehow I feel like this episode wanted to feel "more like TV" if that makes sense

I definitely think a tulpa is different to a doppelgänger yeah. Coop wants Gerard to make a new Dougie for Janey & Sonny Jim (from the original seed that Dougie was made from, which Gerard produces & shows him iirc)

But the original case Albert tells Tammy about -- I forget the name, but two copies of the same woman, one kills the other -- that sounds more like what I think of a "doppelganger" as being, but one of them is described as a tulpa (I think that's where the word is introduced in the show actually)