Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

like i said idk. the 'stateless hacker' types are all sus to me frankly

I died at the description of Kasparov as "the brain genius of the horse game" in the Joe Prince ep

did we all see assange crying for the race scientists getting their youtube click money taken away

good ep, does Joe Prince always sound that... uh... peppy?

no I only saw the awful "black power" vs "white power" one he took down xp

twitter not verifying assange was petty. why not at this point.

prob just to fuck w him

turns out DSA Veterans is the best DSA account

We did but it turns out the military is pretty fashy too and instead of fighting Nazis you just do imperialism 🙄 https://t.co/loK3Y8hQUa

— DSA Veterans 🌹 (@DSAVeterans) August 29, 2017

Felix B interview in ChiReader

In a lot of places in Chicago, the fix is in. There are a lot of factors beyond our control. It seems like Rahm Emanuel became mayor without anyone voting. The mayor and City Council constantly kowtow to building developers. Rahm and Obama are part of our political DNA, but I think Chicago's true political character is defined by its people—and that's radical in many ways.

I think about last year when Trump tried to do a rally in Chicago and thousands and thousands of young people scared the shit out of him and kept him out. I remember national liberals and centrists responded by scolding the protesters saying, "This is exactly what Trump wants!" I thought that was so condescending. These people came out and risked it all to embarrass this guy who was demonizing them in every way. He wanted to deport them and take away their fucking health care and institute austerity in every part of their lives. I thought it showed the true character of the people who live here.

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chapo-trap-house-interview-felix-biederman-dirtbag-left-podcast/Content?oid=29354373

Respect to Amber for not being mad that her stripper step-sister uses her name on stage.

that was a fun episode, they've been on a good run recently

also amber was married? themoreyouknow.jpg

Rahm and Obama are part of our political DNA, but I think Chicago's true political character is defined by its people—and that's radical in many ways. I think about last year when Trump tried to do a rally in Chicago and thousands and thousands of young people scared the shit out of him and kept him out... I thought it showed the true character of the people who live here.

The saddest aspect of this politics is its insistence that "the people" truly share their ideology -- but this is a failing the chapo crew shares with mainstream liberalism, mainstream Republicanism, Trumpism, third-wayism, etc. so they can hardly be uniquely faulted for it.

It depends on what "people" you mean, of course, but there's plenty of data backing up that Americans of their generation take an increasingly dim view of capitalism.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/16/why-young-americans-are-giving-up-on-capitalism/

Which political ideologies don't believe that the people are fundamentally with them or would be under the right conditions?

It seems like a necessity to be politically active - if you just think you're going to be forever unpopular and unsupported, why bother?

free coffee at the meetings

Chance to act self righteous on social media

Quite a lot of ideologies has a notion that the people can't be trusted.

what is my people saying

it's not a question of ideology, it's a question of knowing when you're getting royally screwed.

Which political ideologies don't believe that the people are fundamentally with them or would be under the right conditions?

Hardly any.

Which political ideologies don't believe that the people are fundamentally with them or would be under the right conditions?

straussian neoconservatism

i disagree- just the right conditions for straussians are "we trick them into doing what we want"

The GOP is literally doing as much as it can to take decision making out of the hands of "the people" as we speak.

The GOP broadly seems dead set in their belief in a silent majority that agrees with them and their vision of the world - part of that worldview is anti-democratic.

The GOP is literally doing as much as it can to take decision making out of the hands of "the people" as we speak.

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:30 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otoh you could say they are basically narrowly defining who "the people" are and doing their best to disenfranchise all the volksfremde

_Democracy for Realists_ does a nice summary of what the "people" really think vs what the pollsters/others think they think. I'm sure that book got plenty of good, more informed commentary from ilx but I dint visit that thread/s.

going to guess here: people are dumb and don't vote based on policies/ideology, instead they vote according to their feelings and grievances, even if the things they object to aren't within the purview of the politician they are electing

but like backed up with data

Write books man- depends who asks and how too.

Write books man- depends who asks and how too.

Write books man- depends who asks and how too. xp

Ok I'm on a plane and uh ?

so matt is in nyc now? not sure how i feel about this.

Still waiting for the book about how technocrats' mistrust of democracy and their Herculean attempts to manage it haven't produced better outcomes.

so matt is in nyc now? not sure how i feel about this.

imo the rest should've moved to Cincy. in fact, things would be much mo betta if all the young socialists would stop congregating in nyc. time to pull an inverse of the NH/ "free state" project and get a gang of freelancers & uber drivers to move to a sparsely populated red state like Wyoming and get 2 dem socialist Senators elected.

so matt is in nyc now? not sure how i feel about this.

I did grow to enjoy the tin can quality of his rants

lol yeah

The inability of him to talk into his own mic drives me insane

It sometimes gavethe impression that Matt was just this disembodied head that ranted from a jar on the shelf or something.

i imagine jambi from peewee's playhouse

matt's midwstern marxist adjunct professor (i.e., unemployed) vibe has always been my favorite part of the show, so I hope he doesn't become too new yorkified.

harbl otm, I will miss jambi

Countdown to the first time he slaps Felix or Will for an egregious mispronunciation.

ryan otm

I've been enjoying Trillbilly Workers Party a lot lately, sort of a nice midpoint between the lefty smartassery of Chapo and the modest and cozy chillness of Street Fight.

It's pretty much up to third in my list after I run through the week's Chapo and cum town.

Caught angela nagle on a podcast today and I figured she'd elicit hissing from all the right ppl

She came across as having good knowledge of the various but her thesis seemed p underdeveloped, this may well have been a function of keeping it simple for the anchor.

I had a similar reaction after reading her piece in the latest Baffler, essentially about the death of civility and manners in the discourse driven by Trump. Probably a 2,000 or 3,000 word piece that felt like bulletpoints, nothing I didn't already know or anything that wasn't already obvious. Reading her, you keep waiting for the deep dig, and it's just cliff notes. I don't get it.

In fairness I got the impression that she has that deep dive if required but yeah, where is it if so

oh yeah I don't think she's a charlatan or a grifter, & this piece wasn't even really the same territory as the book, but the experience reading it was the same. inexplicably skating on the surface