whoopee
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link
glad people are talking about the dud nature of the roadhouse. Love Chromatics, Etten and Au Revoir Simone but Chromatics is the only one that stuck for me. Someone like Chelsea Wolfe would've been perfect but instead it's mostly been pretty diluted stuff.
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link
cooper putting his suit on at the hospital was pure joy, totally delivered
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link
Yeah Lynch's taste in stuff he & Badalamenti inspired is kinda weak. No Neko Case either. tbf they did all of the performances in one or two long days. Probably difficult to schedule.
― sciatica, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link
picky, picky
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link
we started out thankful there was a new twin peaks season and now we’re cranky there’s a couple minutes of music out of every hour with music that’s not quite our faves
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link
what are people getting from the chromatics 'preformance' at the road house? it's an okay song and i'm a chromatics fan, but they brought no charisma and johnny jewel has such an unnatural and off putting stage presence. it wasn't bad, just didn't stand out from the other songs apart from them being more well known.
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link
maybe it's because johnny looks like sam rockwell trying to be a rock n roll 'producer' but they took me out of the twin peaks world more than vedder or NIN.
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
people are way horny for the chromatics
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
Vedder and his fedora folk was just as terrible as the majority of the other acts that have been on.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link
loved some of the consistencies in this episode
same music score played during Bad Cooper/Richard and Cooper with his family.
The Cooper hospital monitor SFX continuing into the Cole cut away
just felt like it was really considered
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link
Chromatics have a presence that slots in well with the "world" of TP 2017. Au Revoir Simone as well, somewhat, though they take the static, sidelong-glance-from-my-synth schtick a bit far. NIN worked. I'd prefer Harry Dean over any of them.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link
shout out to the phil! the last we will likely hear from him but coop owes him a kind word at least.
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link
problem is that everything else in this show is so good, it kind of takes you out of it and back into the real world of shitty white people rock.
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
gonna hijack your internet connection to send you a version that has Coldplay instead of Penderecki
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
I've talked about it ad nauseum but the biggest *gas face* is the absence of Bohren Und Der Club of Gore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG-vNzcn96k
― Cake hawn. (jed_), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
penderecki didn't play in the roadhouse
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
yet
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
do you think the Dougie electrocution with the socket and Richard Horne's electrocution on the rock were simultaneous?
― Cake hawn. (jed_), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link
Hm, maybe yes, maybe a trap for Mr C to be consumed by Coop's reboot.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 05:17 (six years ago) link
― oder doch?, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 05:42 (six years ago) link
it's probably because Lynch loves them and that they all sound like contemporary versions of the music from the 50s and 60s that he's obsessed with - Bobby Vinton, Orbison, girl groups, all that.
I was making this same comparison the other day! The likes of Au revoir Simone are totally the equivalent of Connie Stevens or whoever: definitely generic and "milquetoast" or whatever, and also lovely. It helps that the lead singer sounds a bit like sally Shapiro to me.
Interesting to read ppl's reactions, I've liked or loved pretty much all the songs & think they've been used v smartly within their episodes. Ive been dreading the vedder song this whole time because I'd heard it already and it's really not my thing, and because he has a singing style that sounds bad, but when it finally rolled around I didn't hate it. It's in the right place I think, but I'm never not just gonna tune out during it.
(I don't care about being "taken out of it", two of my favourite numbers are james Hurley & zz top)
― streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 09:56 (six years ago) link
Caught up tomorrow ep9 thru 13 over weekend blessings to all
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link
Just delurking on this thread to say I've also found 95% of the Roadhouse music somehwere between bland and awful. The sound design I have thought is excellent however.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link
Roadhouse music > Roadhouse randos talking about people we've never heard of.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link
lol it's mystifying to me how polarising those roadhouse vignettes are
― streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
let's just say this: I don't think I'm going to buy the soundtrack to this
― akm, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link
― streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, August 29, 2017 5:21 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link
personally i think the show missed out by not hiring anthrax to play "black lodge" at the roadhouse
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link
The Roadhouse convos are understandably polarizing inasmuch as they're (at this point) pretty clearly not part of the larger narrative, and I'm sure there are people who are expecting more overall cohesion than Lynch ever intended. I think they'll play better on a rewatch (as I noted above, they're this season's Invitation To Love, and they're probably best viewed from that perspective).
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link
I don't object to the idea of them but I don't find them well-written. Sky Ferreira is the only person in them who has made any impression.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link
To me they are mostly dry recitations of names and inscrutable events rather that don't evoke much that's interesting about the town. Not a good showcase for Lynch's elliptical writing imo. The story about Billy was kind of colorful though.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
That mangled first sentence was not good either though, sorry.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link
Did we ever find out what the strawberry / dog leg thing was about? Given the death of the warden I guess we're not going to hear any more.
― mothfrogs and homicidal smoking haikuists (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link
I like them, you get the sense that there's a whole other soap opera still going on that the show just doesn't have time to show us.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
I think we can all agree the James performance was the best
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
i liked this episode but it was pretty goofy, especially all the cooper stuff. i LOL'd at MIKE being like "you're awake ... FINALLY"
Jerry's entrance in this episode sure looked like an approaching Woodsman. I don't know if it was significant but I have to assume that it was intentional.
― Always Be Cropdusting (Old Lunch), Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:00 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
someone else said this before but it was 100% the monty python "IT'S..." guy, they even speed up his running in the same herky jerky way
― na (NA), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link
my favorite line in this episode was "people are under a lot of stress, bradley"
― na (NA), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link
something i was thinking about was that while twin peaks can be weird, it's generally pretty unambigious morally - almost all of the characters are Good or Bad, or sometimes they start out Bad and become Good but it's a pretty clear transition. but the mitchum brothers plotline sticks out to me because they were Bad and now they're Good but they didn't really earn that change in any way, they're still basically the same mobbed-up guys who were going to murder dougie a few days ago and only the deux ex machina of the pie changed their minds
i also assumed that cooper wants mike to make a new tulpa to replace him as dougie in las vegas, which is also pretty fucked up. are they going to get the original dougie again, who had gambling and cheating problems, or are they going to get a new blank slate dougie, or are they going to get a copy of cooper? in any case, janey-e seems to understand that cooper is different from dougie and won't really be fooled by any tulpa. the implication would be that they're better off with a fake husband/dad than just being alone, which is a pretty old-school sentiment.
in any case, it felt like they wrapped up the las vegas stuff with that episode and i doubt we'll see much of those characters again, maybe we'll get a janey-e/sonny jim wrap-up near the end but we could easily not
― na (NA), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
like cooper saying the mitchums have "hearts of gold" ... i mean i guess they take care of the cocktail waitresses but they are also fine with murdering people
― na (NA), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
MIKE's 'FINALLY' felt of a type with the reveal of cooper being in a coma, which seemed to me like a funny baiting of those already exasperated by dougie's long journey
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
yeah exactly but it was maybe a little on the nose
― na (NA), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
if you're screwing a shady casino owner out of $30 million, the possibility of getting killed seems like part of the bargain
not really cool with the fbi agent moral code, but it's definitely within _a_ moral code
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
are they going to get the original dougie again, who had gambling and cheating problems, or are they going to get a new blank slate dougie, or are they going to get a copy of cooper? in any case, janey-e seems to understand that cooper is different from dougie and won't really be fooled by any tulpa. the implication would be that they're better off with a fake husband/dad than just being alone, which is a pretty old-school sentiment.
I do think they'll get the original Doogie back - not that we might see it, but that that is the implication here. It's only fair since Coop took his place. It's not really his or anyone's responsibility to make Dougie 2.0 a 'better', non-cheating Dougie. Though I completely agree that it's pretty old-school.
It might be different after all if they play out the Diane/Janey-E theory, but my money's not on that one.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
Re: discussion of the show's music and other music of that ilk, I thought it might be worthwhile to revive this worthy thread: late 80s early 90s lana del reyish lynchcore tumblrwave songs (warning: millennial content)
― Glengarry Glen Marshall (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
I do think they'll get the original Doogie back - not that we might see it, but that that is the implication here. It's only fair since Coop took his place. It's not really his or anyone's responsibility to make Dougie 2.0 a 'better', non-cheating Dougie
Either bad coop intentionally made doogie into a bad copy, which good coop or mike would hardly want to do, or dougie didn't start off bad but that's what 25 years living in las vegas does to you, in which case they'll have to take their chances.
― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
I hope the climactic defeat of Evil Coop happens in the first hour and we get a long love-lettery wrapup. But I don't expect that.
― May contain peanuts, tree nuts, soy, wheat, pits or pit fragments. (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
cool to see chris gaines in this episode.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
The idea of growing a new, better dad to replace the old one(s) feels like a return to the particular kind of fantasy you see in the earlier work like grandmother & eraserhead (and twin peaks's own fairytale elements have been discussed extensively obv). If they do go that route I quite like it as a cheerfully macabre resolution to that plot.
― streeps of range (wins), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
Last two episodes are all about Good Coop realizing that almost everyone in Twin Peaks is a tulpa and they're all destroyed by e.g. strange environmental factors related to Black & White Lodge events, Bad Coop going on a futile rampage, etc. etc.; show ends with a solemn Good Coop in Horne's now deserted Department Store cracking open a cold one with the only non-tulpa in town, a bewildered Dick Tremayne
― Dancing on the Pylons, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link