Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

windom earle turned out to be poorly thought out.

― wmlynch, Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:32 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol otm, people complain about the James subplot in season 2, but fuck man Windom Earle was so lame. So psyched he hasn't showed up in the new one.

no way

Anyone else think the Diane bar crisis was a deliberate nod to The Shining? Her face-down eye rolling looked exactly like Danny having his freakout, then long reverse dolly shots down corridors culminating in a close up of the door, handle and number of Gordon's / Albert's / Tammy's room.

This isn't quite true though - the waiter turned out to be the Giant! And that Japanese dude turned out to be Catherine!
Vivian Niles turned out to be MT Wentz
The man from another place turned out to be MIKE's arm

No.

I just want it to be mentioned that Lynch found a way to make a smiley face emoticon incredibly unnerving. That second shot of her phone with the zoom followed by her reaction was absolutely chilling filmmaking.

jacque renault turned out to be the blank fart
donna turned out to be the muffin

maybe laura was the muffin, wtf do I know

The evolution of the muffin

Laura is the turkey, and she sounds like this... (gobble gobble)

jacque renault turned out to be the blank fart
donna turned out to be the muffin

We regret the error

i don't know if we even want to get into this fuckery but
http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3762&start=705#p106048

note the punctuation of the message changes too

i honestly wonder if they were using a real phone and the discrepancy is just due to filming times, but that would be pretty sloppy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gukTnUSSHNs

OMG, A MISSED PERIOD, DOPPELDOOPER MUST BE PREGNANT

Huh. I'd lean towards sloppiness - or, more generously, a trademark lynch "leave it in" whim as we all know he's wont to have - but he made such a point of showing the NOT DELIVERED message close up so that inclines me more to assume it's intentional. Probably just for textural weirdness around technology & time rather than anything plotty like multiple messages or whatever

isn't it really hard to film phones/computers/screens? i assumed they put all that info in in post

there have been multiple irregularities between texts sent and texts received in this iirc

https://quienmatoalaurapalmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/twin.peaks_.s03e04.720p.webrip.x264-morose-0453-1024x576.jpg

WELL THERE YA GO!

i completely forgot that richard chamberlain was on this

so I am rewatching the original series, which had the conventional 1990 TV ratio of 4:3. This one has 16:9, obviously. (FWWM was 1.85:1.) Is the difference particularly striking if you've watched both series this year?

Not for me, although I watched seasons 1 & 2 on my laptop, saw FWWM in a theater, and have been watching The Return on a TV. Rewatched the s2 finale on the TV and was bummed out by the streaming quality. Other than that it was fine.

Morbs, the bigger difference for me is the sharp, naturalistic quality of the DV in The Return vs. the rich, deep colors and careful framing of film in the original.

it's especially apparent whenever he uses scenes from the original or fwwm

it gives this feeling of distance and myth to the original parts, which is excellent

There was an explicit line "he could be in a come for years!" that was a beautiful nosetug for ppl moaning about vacant cool

Cooper is sending a new Dougie back to Vegas to replace him. This was ridiculously explicit.

Handwringing about this would seem to overlook a few things- the characters affected react to whatever Dougie/coop they have with total acceptance and equanimity (Janey-E was pretty much changing his nappies ffs), Dougie was never actually real, it's not a case of coop abandoning nor manipulating so much as avoiding the scenario of getting into "actually you're married to/begotten of a copy of my doppleganger, but he's disappeared into the black lodge, never mind what that is, and technically the guy you've been living with more recently was not me either, but my uninhabited body sprinkled with lucky dust, yes I seem to have been aware of this throughout but was in all fairness essentially vegetative so yknow while the sex probably was without consent that works both ways, I'll say nothing if you say nothing, ok? also I've left you significantly better off financially, the previous incumbent seems like a bad deal and I think the next one will likely be an improvement on that but let's be real here you've just spent the past few weeks moony-eyed over what was essentially a moneybox with an echo function so don't come the abandoned widow with me love somehow I think you'll cope" which seems a kindness imo

Though the parallel and contrast between how dopplecooper meets his son and deals with him vs dales first meeting and acknowledgement of sonny jim was nicely played

Oh yeah I'm all caught up now. Hi everyone.

I skipped most of that post since I saw you already agreed with me, but: otm

tlda

Tlda Swinton

Tulpa Swinton

just recorded one of my fave Lodgers with a new guest who is a v prolific twin peaks tweeter...

Sweet, I've been getting caught up with all your episodes from the FWWM one onward. You and Kate are doing a fantastic job!

aw thanks Moodles!

We've been enjoying doing it but I think we'll both be a little relieved when it's over, it's a LOT of work lol

many of the musings and theories have irked me but I like all the thoughts on this:

https://25yearslatersite.com/2017/08/29/the-staff-makes-their-finale-predictions/

particularly this one: " Andy will become the new Fireman, Lucy will take over as Señorita Dido and they’ll have lovely beige chairs to sit in for all eternity."

:-) ALL.

<3 all

Sweet, I've been getting caught up with all your episodes from the FWWM one onward. You and Kate are doing a fantastic job!

― Moodles, Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:01 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Would like to check these out. Link?

https://www.goombastomp.com/lodgers-twin-peaks-podcast-episode-one-pilot/

Or just search in whatever app you use. I look forward to this show every week and am trying to figure out who this next guest is

so this is almost certainly just weird editing rather than deliberate cryptic misdirection, but in the scene with diane in the hotel room, every shot with albert & tammy has them about a shoulder width apart, except when albert pulls his gun, where her chair has been moved much further left, you can only just see its edge and she is completely off screen.

And what of the choice to frame Cole as if he were alone in the hotel room until Diane finally entered?

yeah that felt totally deliberate.

also plz remind me what was the track when diane was walking there? the knife? fever ray?

Lynch's remix of "American woman", also heard during bad coop's first appearance

yup

Such a great cue

It's a slowed down version of "American Woman" performed by Muddy Magnolias.

thx. pretty intense, guess the vox made me think of the knife/fr.