Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

Which political ideologies don't believe that the people are fundamentally with them or would be under the right conditions?

It seems like a necessity to be politically active - if you just think you're going to be forever unpopular and unsupported, why bother?

free coffee at the meetings

Chance to act self righteous on social media

Quite a lot of ideologies has a notion that the people can't be trusted.

what is my people saying

it's not a question of ideology, it's a question of knowing when you're getting royally screwed.

Which political ideologies don't believe that the people are fundamentally with them or would be under the right conditions?

Hardly any.

Which political ideologies don't believe that the people are fundamentally with them or would be under the right conditions?

straussian neoconservatism

i disagree- just the right conditions for straussians are "we trick them into doing what we want"

The GOP is literally doing as much as it can to take decision making out of the hands of "the people" as we speak.

The GOP broadly seems dead set in their belief in a silent majority that agrees with them and their vision of the world - part of that worldview is anti-democratic.

The GOP is literally doing as much as it can to take decision making out of the hands of "the people" as we speak.

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:30 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otoh you could say they are basically narrowly defining who "the people" are and doing their best to disenfranchise all the volksfremde

_Democracy for Realists_ does a nice summary of what the "people" really think vs what the pollsters/others think they think. I'm sure that book got plenty of good, more informed commentary from ilx but I dint visit that thread/s.

going to guess here: people are dumb and don't vote based on policies/ideology, instead they vote according to their feelings and grievances, even if the things they object to aren't within the purview of the politician they are electing

but like backed up with data

Write books man- depends who asks and how too.

Write books man- depends who asks and how too.

Write books man- depends who asks and how too. xp

Ok I'm on a plane and uh ?

so matt is in nyc now? not sure how i feel about this.

Still waiting for the book about how technocrats' mistrust of democracy and their Herculean attempts to manage it haven't produced better outcomes.

so matt is in nyc now? not sure how i feel about this.

imo the rest should've moved to Cincy. in fact, things would be much mo betta if all the young socialists would stop congregating in nyc. time to pull an inverse of the NH/ "free state" project and get a gang of freelancers & uber drivers to move to a sparsely populated red state like Wyoming and get 2 dem socialist Senators elected.

so matt is in nyc now? not sure how i feel about this.

I did grow to enjoy the tin can quality of his rants

lol yeah

The inability of him to talk into his own mic drives me insane

It sometimes gavethe impression that Matt was just this disembodied head that ranted from a jar on the shelf or something.

i imagine jambi from peewee's playhouse

matt's midwstern marxist adjunct professor (i.e., unemployed) vibe has always been my favorite part of the show, so I hope he doesn't become too new yorkified.

harbl otm, I will miss jambi

Countdown to the first time he slaps Felix or Will for an egregious mispronunciation.

ryan otm

I've been enjoying Trillbilly Workers Party a lot lately, sort of a nice midpoint between the lefty smartassery of Chapo and the modest and cozy chillness of Street Fight.

It's pretty much up to third in my list after I run through the week's Chapo and cum town.

Caught angela nagle on a podcast today and I figured she'd elicit hissing from all the right ppl

She came across as having good knowledge of the various but her thesis seemed p underdeveloped, this may well have been a function of keeping it simple for the anchor.

I had a similar reaction after reading her piece in the latest Baffler, essentially about the death of civility and manners in the discourse driven by Trump. Probably a 2,000 or 3,000 word piece that felt like bulletpoints, nothing I didn't already know or anything that wasn't already obvious. Reading her, you keep waiting for the deep dig, and it's just cliff notes. I don't get it.

In fairness I got the impression that she has that deep dive if required but yeah, where is it if so

oh yeah I don't think she's a charlatan or a grifter, & this piece wasn't even really the same territory as the book, but the experience reading it was the same. inexplicably skating on the surface

makes u think

Hmm... People say Hillary is "the past" but within 24 hours of her @Verrit endorsement, we have more followers than @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE.

— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) September 5, 2017

those 24 hours did occur in the past tho

I spent a couple billion dollars running for president and all I have to show for it is more followers on twitter than chapo

not sure what I appreciate more, Peter Daou thinking that is a useful metric, or Peter Daou being aware of CTH's existence and caring what they say :)

I tried the Trillbilly Workers Party but those accents are rough going.

He has threatened half a dozen of their followers / friends with libel in the past iirc. Xp

ugh chapo might be kind of insufferable coming up.. they can't not take the bait from these idiots

The accents of the Trillbillies are part of what endears me to them. My mom's side of the family is from Southern Ohio, and it's like hearing my cousins talk about lefty shit

dril has nearly 3/4 mil follows. That's my metric.

dril has 753k followers

that is a vicious like propagated by the numbers men at twitter

he has five million now

vicious lie, lol

oh lol I definitely read "3/4" as "three or four"

even folks who don't like chapo can hopefully take some joy in their irritating a useless hyperrich stain like Daou