Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

xxpost No, not surprising within the context of the narrative, just noteworthy in terms of likely viewer expectation and also in terms of what the cast might've assumed. Like, if you only have knowledge of your own scenes and know that you share zero screentime with the star of the show (or however many minutes you get alongside him in the finale), you probably have to wonder how peripheral you are to the overall project.

oh duh not awake yet

And this also means that (aside from whatever goes down in the finale) Ferrer is the only OG cast member who had any knowledge of what was actually going on with Cooper's character.

Being a returning (or new!) actor in this must be a trip for so many reasons

It's just interesting to consider from the perspective of actors who put their trust in Lynch and who we now realize had little-to-no knowledge of what was happening with Cooper while they were involved in this thing. They were more in the dark than the viewer.

Where is Showtime suggesting that? That seems like it'd be an extraordinarily unpopular decision

― Evan R, Friday, September 1, 2017 10:54 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ON SHOWTIME
Sunday, Sep 3 at 8 PM ET/PT
New Episode
SEE TV SCHEDULE

On Demand
Available Sep 4
SEE SCHEDULE

I also asked Hulu support and this is what they said:

Hi! If you're subscribed to the SHO Add-On you should be able to stream the finale as it airs using: https://t.co/vgwcjSoEce. 👍🏽

— Hulu Support (@hulu_support) September 1, 2017

I'm actually not 100% sure what that means now... whether this implies the necessity to also have access to Hulu's live TV beta (I realized I have the option for a free trial week, so I guess there's that) or whether they'll make this available for streaming as it happens either way...?

My main prediction for the finale: some shit will leak over the weekend

There's some delightful perversity in saving the logical jumping-off point for the reboot (Agent Cooper escapes from the Lodge and returns to Twin Peaks to battle his doppelganger!) for the very last episode of the series.

my prediction (shared with some others, i think), is that the timelines will somehow loop back like a möbius strip. for some reason i can imagine the final shots being coop driving toward twin peaks, talking to diane on his talk boy.

My money's on that too, KM.

It could just as easily wind up with Cooper shooting Doppelbooper five minutes in, followed by a 1 hour 55 minute Julee Cruise set a the Roadhouse. Who even knows, man.

My money's on not that xp

At any rate, I predict with 100% certainty that no one will guess the outcome of the finale with 100% accuracy. As much as I used to relish being dead-on in my predictions in, say, the Breaking Bad threads, I'm just as thrilled to be a million miles off in my TP predictions.

My ridiculous Twin Peaks-themed dance/workout playlist for Sunday concludes with Cyclobe's "Replaced By His Constellation," so that's as far as I'll go in terms of making a prediction (in the broadest sense)

I could go with a literal interpretation, of course. Love the stars theme, looking forward to having Coop in the night sky

xxp I will dine out for the rest of my life on having been right about exactly one thing this season (that wasn't something super obvious like who Richard's parents are), I'm pretty much all predictioned out going into this. Obviously we're all supposed to be guessing who Judy is since they made such a point of telling us it's a character we've encountered already but there's so little to go on that it's almost pointless throwing out random guesses for the sake of it (if I had to, I'd guess she was the subject of the Experiment). Stuff like the giant's clues aren't there to be solved by us, they'll either reveal their meaning or they won't

Well, Judy is someone that COOPER has met before. It'll be someone we've never seen and Coop will be all, 'oh, of course, Judy, how could I have forgotten'.

I'm kinda hoping that's the last mention of Judy tbh

Like a character that's been just out of the frame for the entire series. Sitting at the end of the RR lunch counter, driving out of the shot after filling up at Big Ed's, stocking mascara at Horne's Department Store.

i am really pissed about this showtime/hulu bullshit for the finale. i can watch it live through the showtime app but i'd have to watch it on my laptop (because there's no showtime app for ps4) and watch it at 7 p.m. central time, so i'd have to like lock myself in the bedroom so my kids don't come in and watch cooper get his head blown off or whatever

I'd be interested in predictions of which seemingly-dangling plot threads we've likely seen the end of. Like, aside from the possibility of some cosmological exposition which might elucidate it somewhat, I don't think we're going to get any explicit follow-up on locust frog girl at this point.

i am really pissed about this showtime/hulu bullshit for the finale. i can watch it live through the showtime app but i'd have to watch it on my laptop (because there's no showtime app for ps4) and watch it at 7 p.m. central time, so i'd have to like lock myself in the bedroom so my kids don't come in and watch cooper get his head blown off or whatever

Wait I've only just taken in what was said above - so if you don't watch live you have to wait a day? That can't be right. Has that been the case at all so far?

that's what the hulu support person said

I've had it scheduled on the DVR for the rare occasion when I haven't been able to watch live (as will unfortunately be the case this weekend) because I know on demand is often a pain the ass wrt putting stuff up a day or more after it airs.

All of my predictions have been wrong but I'll stick with this one: The Arm is not done evolving.

You'd think this would be the one time they made sure to be on top of it tho. Now TV over here, post leak, had part 16 listed as being available Tuesday but it went on at the usual time Monday morning. Fingers crossed for y'all

I'd be interested in predictions of which seemingly-dangling plot threads we've likely seen the end of. Like, aside from the possibility of some cosmological exposition which might elucidate it somewhat, I don't think we're going to get any explicit follow-up on locust frog girl at this point.

The number of scenes that end on portentous shots of doorways/entrances that have ended up being continuity dead ends (farmer, Glastonbury grove, boiler room) make me think there's a possibility we don't return to Becky. The fact that she's Becky makes me think that isn't likely, though.

Besides Becky, they've got to wrap up the Shelly/Red thing in some way.

Judy as Garland Briggs makes more sense than any other theory ITT. Becky is also the Major's granddaughter and therefore directly related to the White Lodge, so I'd be surprised if she wasn't a significant presence in the finale given all the thematic stuff elsewhere.

(My guess is that she's the new Laura and Coop needs to be back in time to save her, which isn't a particularly unique one but it makes enough sense to be right).

I see no reason...

Let me rephrase in context of Lynch

There is zero resonance or feeling imo in this becoming a Christopher Nolan movie ending.

Time loop? What would ever suggest that is where we are heading?

I think Lynch has given us a million reasons to dream bigger than that or 'it was all a dream'

lmao @ kale maclachlan

Lynch does like playing with time & lost highway has a moebius strip structure and the most popular interpretation of mulholland dr is essentially "it was all a dream" and he does love the wizard of oz, I just think when he does these things it tends to be much more slippery and complex than yr nolania

my prediction (shared with some others, i think), is that the timelines will somehow loop back like a möbius strip. for some reason i can imagine the final shots being coop driving toward twin peaks, talking to diane on his talk boy.

― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:27

I hope not. It's unusual that those endings are ever satisfying. It was daring in the Mighty Max cartoon but it still sucked.

Yeah, i.e. Lynch's dream sequences are not as simple as 'it's just a dream'. Any time fuckery isn't going to be of the Shyamalan OMG DO U SEE variety, but there's been explicit and implicit suggestions of time fuckery nonetheless and I'm certain that it's going to play into the wrap-up somehow.

^^^

Oops xpost to kale maclachlan

I did see a suggestion along these line that appealed to me more than any of these, that the ending of this will be the ending of fwwm - Cooper and Laura in the red room, the exact scene from fwwm

CAN WE NOT SPOIL THE MIGHTY MAX CARTOON FFS

(tbh I always want to resist the prevailing interpretation of mulholland dr, but in fact I'd say I basically subscribe to it with one important tweak: quite simply, it's just like the wizard of oz - it was all a dream, but not really)

Wasn't mighty max those tiny figurines?

It was also a Saturday morning cartoon.

Story
The background story of the toys was as follows:

Max's dad left him his old baseball cap. Trouble was, this was no ordinary baseball cap..."Gotta look the business" Max thought as he tweaked the cap's peak round to the side. "AAAARGH!" Suddenly, the world had gone weird and very unfriendly! The cap had changed colour! Something very strange was going on! He'd been caught in the Horror Zone. Stumbling from one terrifying adventure to another with only cryptic clues to help him escape...he was all alone. He was scared. But he was MIGHTY MAX, and he'd get back somehow!

It's literally twin peaks

Mulholland Drive is like a myth grafted over real life. Multiple approaches to the same general story, neither of which has a greater claim to 'truth' than the other.

With only one peak xp

Ha I missed that

Sooo who's doing the marathon this weekend

Herself unlikely to allow it

Might anyway

(tbh I always want to resist the prevailing interpretation of mulholland dr, but in fact I'd say I basically subscribe to it with one important tweak: quite simply, it's just like the wizard of oz - it was all a dream, but not really)

― streeps of range (wins), Friday, September 1, 2017 12:34 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i always MD was a drug-induced fever dream. Diane smokes cocaine, the opening Jitterbug scene is the rush, then we see/hear her blow out a cloud of smoke, then she falls into the red pillow, & dreams until the cowboy wakes her up

I'll be rewatching Fire Walk With Me with some folks who have still only seen the original series