Trump, September 2017: Walmart Knockoff Hats and Other Indignities

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real life is getting even weirder

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

Akhmetshin goes for Riesling with his rabbit pâté starter.

Nabokov story

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

Scans like Henry Higgins elocution lessons.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

Him: Now repeat after me: "Akhmetshin goes for Riesling with his rabbit pâté starter."
Her: gurgle gamer gurgle gobble!
Him: No! Again!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

"He wants the opportunity to personally tell people that we want to be helpful." https://t.co/t5HxFmMCXc

— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) September 1, 2017

j., Friday, 1 September 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

White wine paired with steak, oh dear.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

after the destruction of an entire city those nazi riots do seem like ages ago.

I haven't watched late-night shows in awhile, but I caught a couple Seth reruns this week--one of 'em was after the 'Fire & Fury', and last night's was from May, after the 'Two Scoops' incident. Both felt like transmissions from separate worlds.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

The transparent dishonesty of his "praise" for certain people continues to be hilarious:

General John Kelly is doing a great job as Chief of Staff. I could not be happier or more impressed - and this Administration continues to..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 1, 2017

...get things done at a record clip. Many big decisions to be made over the coming days and weeks. AMERICA FIRST!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 1, 2017

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

Damn:

A House Republican said Thursday he will launch an effort to force a vote on his bipartisan legislation shielding young immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally as children from deportation.

Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) announced he will file a discharge petition next week when the chamber returns to session. The move is all the more striking given that discharge petitions are usually a tool used by the House minority party.

Coffman’s announcement came amid multiple reports on Thursday that President Trump is expected to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as soon as Friday. Nearly 800,000 people who came to the U.S. illegally as children have been granted work permits and deferred deportation under the program created under President Obama in 2012.

“#DACA participants grew up here, went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here. The time has come to take action,” Coffman wrote on Twitter.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/348771-gop-lawmaker-wants-to-force-vote-on-bill-protecting-daca-recipients

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

America Fist!
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/fist-us-flag-8847194.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

You want a waste of time congress? Needing to repeatedly enact legislation that prevents the president from undoing legislation already in place.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

well, DACA was an executive order.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

and here comes the speaker:

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Friday he doesn't think President Trump should cancel the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

"I actually don't think he should do that, and I believe that this is something Congress has to fix," Ryan told WCLO Janesville.

Ryan added that he doesn't believe President Obama had the legal authority to institute DACA, but it's up to Congress to fix the situation.

"President Obama did not have the legislative authority to do what he did," said Ryan. "You can't, as an executive, write law out of thin air."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

These numbers... devastating. And, in case I didn't mention it, ts a Fox News poll. pic.twitter.com/uFKDZimvjA

— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) September 1, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

That Charles Pierce piece yesterday about the Mueller investigation--the one that starts "It's on"--is that as encouraging as it sounds? He doesn't seem like someone to breathlessly project when there's nothing there.

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

I hope I hope I hope I hope he was watching when that came on. xp

"Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people...."

impossible to "cooperate" with, utterly incapable of discharging the duties of the position he was elected to. the facts will wait for you to be willing to acknowledge them, sen. mccain.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

How could anyone possibly apply gradations to "knowledgeable," "honest," "steady," "compassionate," and "moral"?

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

lies to my enemies but not to me e.g.

j., Friday, 1 September 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

That Charles Pierce piece yesterday about the Mueller investigation--the one that starts "It's on"--is that as encouraging as it sounds? He doesn't seem like someone to breathlessly project when there's nothing there.

It's reasonable tea leaf reading at this point, yes.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has obtained a letter that President Trump and a top political aide drafted in the days before Mr. Trump fired the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, which explains the president’s rationale for why he planned to dismiss the director.

The May letter had been met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that some of its contents were problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter.

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

can someone help me understand what is going on with this Antifa thing? is this a real group or just yet another dumb attempt by the right-wing to deflect attention away from the terrible people on their side?

frogbs, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

Deflection. They're both bad! Both sides do it! If they are good people why do they wear black?! WHY!?!?!?!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

I thought this was good, h/t kingfish for posting:

https://psmag.com/social-justice/understanding-antifa

sleeve, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

Man, I can only imagine the damage that will come of a letter drafted by Miller and Trump with no oversight.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

re: "Its On"

All the leaks indicate Mueller is hard charging at 2 things: the obstruction angle and trying to destroy Manafort

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

Perhaps money laundering, too. Or money/Manafort in an effort to get to Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

i know i've been spoiled by months of document leaks because i want to read the miller/trump letter NOW, and i'm disappointed that it'll have to wait until...whatever happens months/years from now with mueller

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

How could anyone possibly apply gradations to "knowledgeable," "honest," "steady," "compassionate," and "moral"?

I wasn't clear enough here--what I meant was, as applied to Trump. Who could sort them out? "I think he's a little more honest than he is steady, but a little more steady than compassionate." None of the terms apply.

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

Days/minutes/seconds.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

I mean the way to think about all this is this -- the appointment of Mueller and the creation of his team was not, in and of itself, the key step, though it was necessary. The key step is the increasing coordination and, to a degree, centralization we're now seeing happen across a wide variety of investigations. The consequences of Trump's impulsive mid-May move keep playing out as a result; Mueller didn't have to start from scratch, he has a wide range of professional connections and resources to draw upon and, in a series of sublime gifts from the gods, Trump himself keeps telegraphing concerns or doing things that add to the impression that at the very least he really does have something to hide, no matter what the actual reasons are. That latter fact has to some degree now tamped down, likely due to a combination of Kelly's cleanup and Trump's current legal folks avoiding Kasowitz's clownishness and sticking to various 'no-comment' statements or pat phrases about working with Mueller's team well on a professional level, but the damage is done; combined with Trump's obvious unpopularity, and little wonder it's all chugging along like this.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

Having his legal team not being run by a drunk idiot like Kasowitz is also helpful

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 September 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Minor details.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

It's occurring to me with increasing frequency that, in the course of a life filled to overflowing with acts of stupidity, running for president might wind up being the stupidest thing Trump ever did. Instead of (relatively speaking) continuing to fly under the radar as a crooked turd of a private citizen, he just painted a big ol' target on himself. Which he thankfully feels the need to touch up on a daily basis.

Pascal's Penisés (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 September 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

Yeah I was thinking the same last night.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

THREAD: What does the news that Mueller has a draft of a Trump letter explaining why he wanted to fire Comey mean for the obstruction case?

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) September 1, 2017

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

61 percent disapproval on Gallup, new low

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 September 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

Time for Trump to repost his smug golf clap photo.

(Again, it must be said, one of his most profoundly pathetic moments was celebrating a 50% approval rating in a poll that's strongly skewed in his favor.)

Pascal's Penisés (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 September 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

Well he's -14% net on that one now lol

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 September 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Trump caves on the wall...again.

The White House has signaled to congressional Republicans that it will not shut down the government in October if money isn’t appropriated to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, potentially clearing a path for lawmakers to reach a short-term budget deal.

Congress has only appropriated money to fund government operations through the end of September, and President Trump has threatened to shut down the government if lawmakers don’t include $1.6 billion in new funding so that 74 new miles of wall and secondary fencing can be added to the border.

“Build that wall,” Trump said at the Aug. 22 rally in Phoenix. “Now the obstructionist Democrats would like us not to do it. But believe me, if we have to close down our government, we're building that wall.”

But two days later, White House officials quietly notified Congress that the $1.6 billion would not need to be in a “continuing resolution” that was meant to fund government operations from October until sometime in early December, a senior GOP congressional aide said.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 1 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

hmm, i figured he'd cave on it a little closer to the budget negotiations, but fine. that means that trump can direct his idiot legion's rage toward congressional republicans by blaming them for not allocating money for his precious wall

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

XP Now if only a wall would cave in on...

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 September 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

best case scenario for 9/11/17 = trump pulls a hillary but actually dies

flappy bird, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

KInd of dumbfounded that he'd still be talking about a wall after Houston. Almost as much as turning down the offer of Mexican help.
But there you go it's not like you can have any expectations of cognition from the guy.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

Breaking the potential candidates into formal tiers at this point would be silly. But here are groupings that emerged with our conversations with veterans of past Democratic presidential campaigns, as well as younger operatives likely to be involved in the 2020 campaign:

Watched most closely: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.), New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

The classics: Joe Biden, John Kerry, Al Gore, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.

Outsiders: New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Colorado Gov. Hickenlooper

Has begun seeking staff: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.), Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio).

Many in Obamaworld like: former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.), former Missouri SecState Jason Kander.

Many in Clintonworld like: Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, former Ag Secretary and Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, former HUD Secretary Julian Castro.

Possible if wins reelection: Sen. Sherrod Brown (Ohio).

Wants to be mentioned: Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.).

Wild cards: Sen. Al Franken (Minn.), Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, Rep. John Delaney (Md.).

Non-politicians: Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, Mark Cuban, The Rock, Starbucks Executive Chairman Howard Schultz, Disney CEO Bob Iger, Oprah, George Clooney.

Someone Trump would have no idea what to do with, and who'd win women with authenticity and Southern charm: Sally Yates, the acting attorney general fired by Trump.

https://www.axios.com/axios-am-2480203706.html

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

president-elect zuckerberg conspicuously absent

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link

he's busy in tulsa, at a laundrette, learning about how people live now

j., Friday, 1 September 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

sad no one's mentioning Pete Buttigieg

sean gramophone, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

Draft Tammy Duckworth

.oO (silby), Friday, 1 September 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link

xpost I can state definitively that I've never harbored such intense and sustained ill-will for anyone in my life. Which is at least partially fueled by the fact that he NEVER SUFFERS ANY REPERCUSSIONS FOR ANYTHING EVER.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

How about bringing back the word Politics in the October thread, and leaving the word Trump out

sciatica, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

xpost Externally at least. Internally, he is rotting away. He is going to die rich and diseased.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

He is the very personification, the embodiment, of every horrible thing every horrible rich person has ever done and gotten away with. He is a tumor, he is like a subconscious manifestation from a Cronenberg film.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

the POTUS is more critical of the mayor of san juan, when puerto rico is still digging itself out of a hurricane, than he has ever been of the president of russia, who hacked our election. can we revoke the voting privileges of all registered republicans yet?

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

The revolution those conservatives talk about, this is it. They're gladly taking Russian assistance, judging by their, at best, blase attitude towards the whole thing. They like Putin's society far better than the direction the US has been going in.

I think we've got a coup going on, baby.

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

Think about this: the oligarchy that's been trying to seize power (Citizens United, most recently), will gain even more wealth and power under such a system. Social conservatives will get their race dominance and beloved authoritarian leader.

The NYT's owners, NBC, CBS, et al, were way more afraid of Sanders than Trump, and even threw a few bones Trump's away in hedging against Clinton.

Whoowee, we've got some crazy shit going on. It's going to royally suck for minorities and the professional, educated class if things really go to shit, unless you get comfy kissing these peoples' asses. Not that it'd be much different than now anyway...

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

I don't remember any of those dialogue bits from JFK.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

This is pretty 1:1 reasoning here, so I don't think it qualifies for JFK level stuff. I've seen this same "JFK" stuff you talk about wreck impossible projects, so GFY.

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

Why wouldn't people want the things they clearly want, and have an avenue to obtain it? Because of LOVE?

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

I'll honestly settle for a massive stroke that leaves him incapable of speaking or using his hands. Largely because I can't imagine anyone feeling compelled to care for him in that state, so someone will maybe just toss him in a dumpster or something.

Could a stroke also cause you to think everyone around you is cursing you in Spanish? I'd like that.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

also -- ayn rand? russian. the #1 donors to the GOP? their daddy made his fortune building stalin's oil refineries. are there any bigger influences on xontemporary "conservatism" than ayn rand and charles / david koch? i'm not anti-russian by any stretch, but boy did republicans pretend to be until like last year

xpost

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

For serious, larry/carpet_kaiser/whatever usernames you're swapping between: keep your 'GFY' bullshit to yourself or I'll flag every one of your posts until you're banned.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

So someone zings me, and I can't zing back? That doesn't seem fair.

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

It's like you want the TRUMP card here! hhuhuhuhuh

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

uh huh huh he said 'rump' uh huh huh uh huh huh

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

Voting for "u bum" for October thread title btw; it feels gently eloquent

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

how is carpet kaiser not banned yet? take the crazy pills mindblower schtick to some comments thread someplace, man

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

your question answers itself

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

You dudes said "crazy pills" about all the other stuff I said, which ended up coming true. I don't blame you guys for not having the stomach for this stuff, so I will refrain.

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

permalinks or it didn't happen

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 October 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

Ur butt is a permalink uh huh hih

Neanderthal, Sunday, 1 October 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

who's gonna start the new one

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 1 October 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

here's a first - this dude called Twitter "biased" yesterday when someone was citing what he tweeted as proof dude is an asshole

i can't even anymore

Neanderthal, Sunday, 1 October 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

Sorry Joanie the dragon goo fart was too gross for me

Trump, October 2017: Apologize for untruth, u bum

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 October 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link

Ugh, Puzder on MSNBC carrying water for Trump's "tax reform" ideas. He keeps saying "we need to stop parsing this out in individual pieces and look at what it'll do for the whole economy, for everyone" hahaha yeah those keys sure are jingling in your other hand man let me keep staring at those.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

The estate tax "is a double tax! It taxes money you've already made!"

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

Heyyyy fuck you, bud, how about that.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

There's an October thread now, heads up

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

Fuck I thought I was posting in that. Someone should lock this and also i should pay more attention.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link


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